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Offline Chaz78

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on: July 22, 2022, 10:36:14 PM
Hello, I'm currently working on a UA story. I read these for the sex scenes, to be honest, so forgive me if I offend anyone making that assumption for anyone else. If you read it for that same reason, how much backstory and set-up could you go through before you're thinking, "okay, enough already," and move on to someone who gets to the action sooner.
I'm about 1,100 words in on setting the scene and backstory, will probably have another hundred or two before I get to the first sex scene. Again, I know not everyone reads them just for the sex, but I'm sure some do.



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Reply #1 on: July 22, 2022, 10:42:52 PM
Your story Chaz, write it as YOU want.

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Reply #2 on: July 22, 2022, 10:51:42 PM
Hello, I'm currently working on a UA story. I read these for the sex scenes, to be honest, so forgive me if I offend anyone making that assumption for anyone else. If you read it for that same reason, how much backstory and set-up could you go through before you're thinking, "okay, enough already," and move on to someone who gets to the action sooner.
I'm about 1,100 words in on setting the scene and backstory, will probably have another hundred or two before I get to the first sex scene. Again, I know not everyone reads them just for the sex, but I'm sure some do.

Staci is right. For me, I use the backstory to set the pace and scene for the story, so the readers are not left with "what the fuck, who the fuck and why the fuck." Questions. I mean if you are building a world in a story, then use the backstory to lay the foundation, like: Why is this guy like this with who. I set that up alot in my detective series, because why would a detective get involved in shit that would kill anyone? Why does he always seem to be at the wrong place at the right time? How does he not get arrested for the things he does? I mean backstory is a wonderful plot device to me, but its also like sometimes too much of a good thing isnt so good. I try to keep it short and sweet, so people who are there for the sexy times, can get there, but also taking into consideration those that like a little more than fap fodder. but ultimately it lies on what you want the readers to read and feel.

Like my Dusty old book series, an average guy runs a movie theater in a quiet little town, but there is alot going on under the surface. So I pepper in the backstory so that the action stands out. But as staci said, its your story.

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Reply #3 on: July 23, 2022, 01:22:43 AM
You can avoid a long introduction by beginning a story with some action, or a cryptic teaser that catches the reader's attention.

You then slip in background information, here and there, almost as an afterthought. If the reader is hooked, he/she will hold off painting mental images of characters and locations until you supply the details.



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Reply #4 on: July 26, 2022, 04:14:23 AM
Chaz,
This is a question that I've seen asked in a couple of different forms over the years. Hell, I asked it at one point.  I got basically the same answer. It is your story do what you want with it.  But you made me curious about how much I add upfront before getting to the sex. I am not saying I am the bee's knees when it comes to writing so take the advice for what it cost you.
So I looked at 4 stories. The best-ranked story to the one I lost interest in and so did most readers.  The best ranked is at the top and, obviously, the number is the number of words before the first kiss or action.
Flight Covid19 - 2764
Alex's Sexual  Odyssey - 2575
Experimenting on Sister - 2213
Nip  Tuck - 1216
I would say there is a trend. 
I kind of think with a back story readers get invested and look forward to sex as just part of the story.  That is likely my own bias as i read stories for the story. Sex is just the glue that holds it together.
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Reply #5 on: July 26, 2022, 04:26:54 AM
A few minutes ago I came across an intriguing way to slip a description into a story. The story is a first-person account of a woman's vacation in Norway. The narrator describes getting up in the morning and sitting down at her dressing table, then:

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I was surprised to discover that the more I contemplated the project of going to Norway, the more that prospect pleased me, and as Paulette was brushing my still abundant locks I actually caught myself smiling into the looking-glass! And here, in case of misconception, I hasten to describe the vision which the mirror reflected.

I don't think I'd ever use that trick in a story, but I do think it's rather neat.



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Reply #6 on: July 26, 2022, 05:00:24 AM
It all depends.  My answer is "as much as you need and as much as you want."  This is ultimately your story.  You can take as long or as little to set it up as you want.  I've had some stories where I'm in the action within 500 words and others where it took 50,000 words to get to the real juicy parts.  But those were the stories I wanted to tell.  But if you want a slightly more in-depth answer, ask yourself the following questions.

Who is fucking?
Where are they fucking?
When are they fucking?
Why are they fucking?

You only need to answer 2 to have the beginnings of a story, but all 4 need answered before the end of the story.  How they're fucking is part of the story itself, so that will be answered later. 

I'll give two examples from stories of mine over at the sister site RavishU.  In one story Trick and Treat, I spent about 1000-1500 words setting up the premise, explaining the characters, and getting to the pre-sex and sex.  In Pharma, it took me 11 chapters to get to the first sex scenes, and until chapter 16 until the first graphic ones, and the next chapter before I had the first original in-depth sex scenes with characters original to that story.  At an average of 3-4k words per chapter, I had to be at least 50-60k words deep just in the backstory.  But I also like to make the action worthwhile, at least a 2:1 ratio of sexy chapters to non-sexy chapters by the time it's all said and done.  In that story I'm currently writing chapter 62, which is 8 chapters into a weekend long gangbang and those 8 chapters cover maybe 5-6 hours.  I still have another 30-36 hours left just with that one setting.  The last 40k words have been hardcore sex.  And that story is part of an overarching universe including another 50 or so narrative chapters, a few feature length screenplays, and one tv-season long screenplay.

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Reply #7 on: July 26, 2022, 05:33:17 AM
To my knowledge, I am fairly confident in saying that no one has ever won a Pulitzer for their erotic fiction posted here. So you’re not posting for the critics, or anyone else. Just do it the way you like it, and if they can’t handle it, fuck them. It’s your story, it is your fantasy, and not everyone likes to hear it the same way. Some people like to get to the anal sex in the second paragraph, and some others like an entire backstory with character development and totally unnecessary details, before you get to the first blow job. It really doesn’t matter. The important thing is that you have fun. Just understand, that not everyone’s gonna love your  work, but you’re not doing it for the love, you’re doing it for the creative process. Kurt Vonnegut had a great quote about that. It’s not about being “good,” it’s about being creative.

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