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Reply #40 on: May 16, 2023, 03:21:13 PM
Rudy Giuliani said he and Trump were selling pardons for $2m apiece, ex-aide claims

Mr Giuliani reportedly claimed he would split the $2 million fee with then-president Donald Trump

Andrew Feinberg
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Reply #41 on: May 16, 2023, 07:12:29 PM

It is pathetic to watch MAGA idiots celebrate this guy. So, Donald gives a spectacular performance on CNN; “so what?”

Who really cares about dominating some worthless feminist liberal?

Donald Trump is just a good salesman. He is just a con-artist. I think, he should go to Israel. He will do well in Israel. He did more for Israel than for his actual country the USA.

F*ck Donald Trump. Never forget. This guy oversaw the fast-tracking of mRNA poison into the veins of millions of people.





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Reply #42 on: May 17, 2023, 02:07:41 AM
Rudy Giuliani said he and Trump were selling pardons for $2m apiece, ex-aide claims

Mr Giuliani reportedly claimed he would split the $2 million fee with then-president Donald Trump

Andrew Feinberg
The Independent
4 hours ago


1) Hillary Clinton and the mass media (ABC, NBC, CBA, CNN, MSNBC) : "Look at the Steele Dossier!! Trump is in collusion with Russia!!"

As we see from the Durham report, Hillary lied, the media lied and a lot of low information voters believed this.

2) Anthony Fauci: "If you get the Fauci ouchie, you won't get the virus."

One of many lies by the lying little leprechaun, who is now trying to distance himself from the fact that he financially backed gain of function from the same lab that leaked the virus in the first place.

3) Lies by Joe Biden:

a) “Take-home pay has gone up.”

Real wages have fallen every month for nearly two straight years under his administration as historic inflation swamps nominal wages and destroys living standards. According to the most recent data, annual inflation is rising 50 percent faster than average wages. The truth is that Americans are getting poorer, something we are reminded of every time we visit the grocery store, where prices have increased by 20 percent since Biden took office.

b) “[I have presided over] the largest deficit reduction in American history.”

Biden is trying to take advantage of the moderation from the unique pandemic baseline. In reality, Biden has presided over the largest two-year deficit — $4.2 trillion — in American history. While it’s true the annual deficit is lower than during the once-in-a-century pandemic in 2020, due to the expiration of pandemic-era spending, that’s hardly something to cheer. In fact, Biden’s reckless spending has prevented the deficit from falling below the outrageous $1 trillion mark in 2022.

c) “Two years ago, our economy was reeling.”

President Trump presided over the fastest economic recovery in American history, with the economy expanding by 11 percent in his last six months in office. Unfortunately, instead of simply continuing Trump’s policies and riding his coattails to a rapid resurgence, Biden seized the opportunity to pass several trillion dollars’ worth of unnecessary spending that fueled historic inflation, putting a tremendous burden on small business owners and ordinary Americans.

d) Oil companies have “invested too little of their] profit to increase domestic production and keep gas prices down.”

Oil companies would like to expand production to take advantage of high oil prices, but the Biden administration’s green energy policies make this very difficult. According to Heritage Foundation energy analyst Katie Tubb, the administration “has proposed or finalized regulations that restrict nearly every aspect of the oil industry: financing and private-sector investment, exploration and production, pipeline construction and operation, and consumer use.” Biden has issued the fewest drilling permits since the end of World War II. As a result, oil production is still lower than before the pandemic, and gas prices are far higher.

e) “Now, thanks to all we’ve done, we’re exporting American products.”

The same day as the State of the Union address, the government released 2022 trade figures showing the country hit a record trade deficit of almost $1 trillion last year. That’s up 12.2 percent compared to 2021, precisely the opposite direction of Biden’s claim. This unprecedented trade deficit is a direct consequence of Biden’s bad policies, including climate and labor overregulation, that make it expensive to manufacture goods in America.

f) The wealthy don’t “pay their fair share.”

This stale Democrat talking point seems to make it into every stump speech. But it couldn’t be further from the truth. The top 1 percent of highest-earning Americans pay nearly 50 percent of the nation’s income taxes — about twice their “share” of national income. According to a WalletHub analysis, the top 100 American corporations pay an effective tax rate of nearly 20 percent. (Smaller businesses pay even more.) These liabilities don’t include the high tax bills paid by companies’ shareholders and executives. The American tax system is one of the most progressive in the developed world, with job creators paying far more than their fair share, despite Democrats’ nonstop claims to the contrary.

Don’t expect the mainstream media “fact-checkers” to call Biden out on these lies. These are left-wing opinion journalists masquerading as independent truth arbiters to help advance the Democrats’ agenda. For example, the Democratic Party broadsheet known as the New York Times claimed, “Mr. Biden’s speech contained no outright falsehoods.”

Yet, judging by Biden’s low approval numbers, the public can see through his lies just fine. His State of the Union address is no exception.

And now, yet another person in need of therapy is accusing Donald Trump of wrongdoing. Sigh, geez, get some therapy people. I tell you what pornhubby, I'll believe this "former aide" when:

1) Hillary Clinton turns herself in and confesses to all the evil shit she has pulled.
2) Biden and Harris, realizing that they are wrong, resign from office.
3) ANTIFA is rounded up and thrown into prison.
4) Obama produces a real, by gosh, birth certificate.



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Reply #43 on: May 17, 2023, 01:42:52 PM



Florider Governor Ron DeSantis Signing Anti-semitism Bill in Israel

Florider Governor Ron DeSantis Signing Anti-semitism Bill in Israel


What happened to the first Amendment? What happened to our constitution?

The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference.

It prohibits any laws that establish a national religion, impede the free exercise of religion, abridge the freedom of speech, infringe upon the freedom of the press, interfere with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibit citizens from petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

It was adopted into the Bill of Rights in 1791. The Supreme Court interprets the extent of the protection afforded to these rights.

The First Amendment has been interpreted by the Court as applying to the entire federal government even though it is only expressly applicable to Congress.

Furthermore, the Court has interpreted the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as protecting the rights in the First Amendment from interference by state governments.


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Reply #44 on: May 17, 2023, 04:30:50 PM



Florider Governor Ron DeSantis Signing Anti-semitism Bill in Israel

Florider Governor Ron DeSantis Signing Anti-semitism Bill in Israel


What happened to the first Amendment? What happened to our constitution?

The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference.

It prohibits any laws that establish a national religion, impede the free exercise of religion, abridge the freedom of speech, infringe upon the freedom of the press, interfere with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibit citizens from petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

It was adopted into the Bill of Rights in 1791. The Supreme Court interprets the extent of the protection afforded to these rights.

The First Amendment has been interpreted by the Court as applying to the entire federal government even though it is only expressly applicable to Congress.

Furthermore, the Court has interpreted the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as protecting the rights in the First Amendment from interference by state governments.


Donald Trump the Traitor


I'm confused.

I've long been under the impression that Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis are two separate individuals.

I've also been under the impression that state governors may sign a bill passed by the state legislatures wherever they choose.

It's worth noting that the bill was strongly supported by the ADL, it was co-sponsored by both Republican and Democratic legislators, and that it passed both houses of Florida's legislature unanimously.

You're correct that "the Supreme Court interprets the extent of the protection afforded to these rights." And that also applies to local federal appeals courts. And it's unclear whether the law will pass a constitutional challenge. From what I've read, and I've only read excerpts, its definition of antisemitism is overly broad. On top of that, it's potentially inequitable, since it protects only one of the many religious minorities that are discriminated against in Florida.





 


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Reply #45 on: May 18, 2023, 01:42:32 AM

I'm confused.

I've long been under the impression that Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis are two separate individuals.

I've also been under the impression that state governors may sign a bill passed by the state legislatures wherever they choose.

It's worth noting that the bill was strongly supported by the ADL, it was co-sponsored by both Republican and Democratic legislators, and that it passed both houses of Florida's legislature unanimously.

You're correct that "the Supreme Court interprets the extent of the protection afforded to these rights." And that also applies to local federal appeals courts. And it's unclear whether the law will pass a constitutional challenge. From what I've read, and I've only read excerpts, its definition of antisemitism is overly broad. On top of that, it's potentially inequitable, since it protects only one of the many religious minorities that are discriminated against in Florida.










You are right. Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis are two different individuals.


I was going to write about Trump; then, the treachery of Ron DeSantis came up. I got carried away in a volley of emotions and wrote about DeSantis.


Whether the bill stands up or not to constitutional scrutiny by the supreme court, is irrelevant. The problem here, is not even the moral issue, that no group should have special protections _ neither blacks nor women nor LGBT nor jews should have any special protection.


In a just country, equality before the law should be applied across the board. But that’s not even the issue.


The issue here, is that Ron DeSantis is the Governor of Florida, a state in the USA. If he is not subservient to a foreign power, Israel, “what is he doing, signing the bill in Israel?”


Imagine NAACP (The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) sponsors a bill, penalizing criticisms against blacks. Then, in order to sign this bill into law, the Governor of Florida flies over to Congo.


I am sure, you can’t even imagine that. I am sure the idea is so outlandish and ridiculous; that anyone, provided he is sound of mind, can barely contemplate it.





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Reply #46 on: May 18, 2023, 02:46:46 PM

I'm confused.

I've long been under the impression that Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis are two separate individuals.

I've also been under the impression that state governors may sign a bill passed by the state legislatures wherever they choose.

It's worth noting that the bill was strongly supported by the ADL, it was co-sponsored by both Republican and Democratic legislators, and that it passed both houses of Florida's legislature unanimously.

You're correct that "the Supreme Court interprets the extent of the protection afforded to these rights." And that also applies to local federal appeals courts. And it's unclear whether the law will pass a constitutional challenge. From what I've read, and I've only read excerpts, its definition of antisemitism is overly broad. On top of that, it's potentially inequitable, since it protects only one of the many religious minorities that are discriminated against in Florida.



You are right. Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis are two different individuals.

I was going to write about Trump; then, the treachery of Ron DeSantis came up. I got carried away in a volley of emotions and wrote about DeSantis.

Whether the bill stands up or not to constitutional scrutiny by the supreme court, is irrelevant. The problem here, is not even the moral issue, that no group should have special protections _ neither blacks nor women nor LGBT nor jews should have any special protection.

In a just country, equality before the law should be applied across the board. But that’s not even the issue.

The issue here, is that Ron DeSantis is the Governor of Florida, a state in the USA. If he is not subservient to a foreign power, Israel, “what is he doing, signing the bill in Israel?”

Imagine NAACP (The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) sponsors a bill, penalizing criticisms against blacks. Then, in order to sign this bill into law, the Governor of Florida flies over to Congo.

I am sure, you can’t even imagine that. I am sure the idea is so outlandish and ridiculous; that anyone, provided he is sound of mind, can barely contemplate it.


Here's the main flaw in your argument: "In a just country, equality before the law should be applied across the board."

Yes, it "should." But even a grade school understanding of American history shows that the U.S. is not, in this context, "a just country."

Following your argument, the 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments are all "irrelevant," and should be repealed, since none of the groups affected by these amendments should have "special protection."

The reason why DeSantis chose to sign this bill in Israel should be obvious. While it's true that the place of the signing is irrelevant to the fact of its being signed, DeSantis chose to sign the bill in Israel because, as he's ramping up his bid for the White House, he's keenly aware of the influence of Jewish voters in the U.S. The fact that a presidential candidate is catering to Jewish voters should come as a surprise to no one. It has nothing to do with being "subservient to a foreign power," and everything to do with winning votes.

Your Congo analogy instantly falls flat, chiefly because only a microscopic percentage of Americans claim Congolese descent.





 


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Reply #47 on: May 19, 2023, 01:04:41 AM

Here's the main flaw in your argument: "In a just country, equality before the law should be applied across the board."

Yes, it "should." But even a grade school understanding of American history shows that the U.S. is not, in this context, "a just country."

Following your argument, the 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments are all "irrelevant," and should be repealed, since none of the groups affected by these amendments should have "special protection."

The reason why DeSantis chose to sign this bill in Israel should be obvious. While it's true that the place of the signing is irrelevant to the fact of its being signed, DeSantis chose to sign the bill in Israel because, as he's ramping up his bid for the White House, he's keenly aware of the influence of Jewish voters in the U.S. The fact that a presidential candidate is catering to Jewish voters should come as a surprise to no one. It has nothing to do with being "subservient to a foreign power," and everything to do with winning votes.

Your Congo analogy instantly falls flat, chiefly because only a microscopic percentage of Americans claim Congolese descent.








You have raised several issues, which diverge from the point. The point is Governor Ron DeSantis is a traitor.


Before, I deal with the point, I’ll segue into the issues you raised.
i)   Yes, American is not a just country. And so is hardly any other country on earth. But “isn’t that what countries are supposed to be striving for?” Should countries not be striving for a just society?


ii)   The 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments are not irrelevant; given, the historical context.


“Relevant” and “just” are not to be conflated. These terms have different and distinct meanings.


The 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments are not just. At the time, it may have been important and even considered just to make these amendments with the objective of rectifying a historical wrong.


Historical wrongs have a start date and an end date. Historical wrongs have a beginning and an end. The amendments made to rectify these historical wrongs have no expiration date; consequently, they are unjust.


In general, if you are wronged for 1year, the compensation should not exceed a year. In general, if you are wronged for 10years, the compensation (or rectification) should not exceed ten years.


The magnitude of the compensation should be commensurate to the wrong done.


The 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments should definitely be repealed.



Finally, I return to the issue _ the treachery of Governor Ron DeSantis.

What Jewish vote? The Jews are less than 3percent of the US population. Believe it or not, there are about as many Muslims in American as Jews. If it were about votes, “why is DeSantis, not flying off to Mecca placate Muslim voters?”

If you do not know that Ron DeSantis is not pandering to the Jewish vote; but rather to Jewish donors (financiers) and Jewish media-moguls; then, I am sorry to inform you that you are not a very keen observer.







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Reply #48 on: May 19, 2023, 02:01:04 PM

Here's the main flaw in your argument: "In a just country, equality before the law should be applied across the board."

Yes, it "should." But even a grade school understanding of American history shows that the U.S. is not, in this context, "a just country."

Following your argument, the 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments are all "irrelevant," and should be repealed, since none of the groups affected by these amendments should have "special protection."

The reason why DeSantis chose to sign this bill in Israel should be obvious. While it's true that the place of the signing is irrelevant to the fact of its being signed, DeSantis chose to sign the bill in Israel because, as he's ramping up his bid for the White House, he's keenly aware of the influence of Jewish voters in the U.S. The fact that a presidential candidate is catering to Jewish voters should come as a surprise to no one. It has nothing to do with being "subservient to a foreign power," and everything to do with winning votes.

Your Congo analogy instantly falls flat, chiefly because only a microscopic percentage of Americans claim Congolese descent.



You have raised several issues, which diverge from the point. The point is Governor Ron DeSantis is a traitor.

Before, I deal with the point, I’ll segue into the issues you raised.

i)   Yes, American is not a just country. And so is hardly any other country on earth. But “isn’t that what countries are supposed to be striving for?” Should countries not be striving for a just society?

ii)   The 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments are not irrelevant; given, the historical context.

“Relevant” and “just” are not to be conflated. These terms have different and distinct meanings.

The 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments are not just. At the time, it may have been important and even considered just to make these amendments with the objective of rectifying a historical wrong.

Historical wrongs have a start date and an end date. Historical wrongs have a beginning and an end. The amendments made to rectify these historical wrongs have no expiration date; consequently, they are unjust.

In general, if you are wronged for 1year, the compensation should not exceed a year. In general, if you are wronged for 10years, the compensation (or rectification) should not exceed ten years.

The magnitude of the compensation should be commensurate to the wrong done.

The 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments should definitely be repealed.

Finally, I return to the issue _ the treachery of Governor Ron DeSantis.

What Jewish vote? The Jews are less than 3percent of the US population. Believe it or not, there are about as many Muslims in American as Jews. If it were about votes, “why is DeSantis, not flying off to Mecca placate Muslim voters?”

If you do not know that Ron DeSantis is not pandering to the Jewish vote; but rather to Jewish donors (financiers) and Jewish media-moguls; then, I am sorry to inform you that you are not a very keen observer.


Asserting that those amendments should be repealed is patently silly.

Absent the 13th Amendment, a state could re-institute slavery. Without the 14th and 19th Amendments, a state could bar black people and/or women from voting. If the 26th Amendment were repealed, a state could set a minimum voting age of 25. That's how the U.S. Constitution and constitutional law work.

You assert:


Yes, American is not a just country. And so is hardly any other country on earth. But “isn’t that what countries are supposed to be striving for?” Should countries not be striving for a just society?


How else could a country strive to be a just society without constitutional and legal provisions in place that strive to make it more just, and offer protections to all citizens?

If you remove the 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments, our society would become grossly unjust, far worse than it has ever been in its history. Is that what you want?

A very important point that you can't seem to grasp is that it is neither illegal nor unethical for a political office-seeker to solicit support from individuals or blocks of voters. There was nothing illegal about DeSantis signing that bill in Israel, and there is nothing illegal about his soliciting support from Jewish voters or financing from Jewish Americans. His doing so doesn't make him a traitor: It makes him a savvy politician.

Meanwhile, Biden made a state visit to Egypt last year, and he announced plans to visit several sub-Saharan Africa later this year. Does that make him a traitor? Would you similarly condemn him for trying to solicit votes from Black Americans?

P.S. Asserting that Jews control the financial system and the media is a longstanding antisemitic trope that is as false as it is distasteful.






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Reply #49 on: May 19, 2023, 08:46:37 PM
Just popping in to say that Trump is a narcissist, and will always be one.  He will always do things to benefit Trump.  I think he, his family, and his cohorts should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I also believe that Biden is a corrupt senile old man, who has conducted multiple shady business dealings and political gamemanship.  I think that he, his family, and his cohorts should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

That said, what the back-and-forth here demonstrates to me is that regardless of whether you despise Trump and the MAGA Right or you despise Biden and the Liberal Left, politics have won over people.

Everything is so heavily politicized and polarized that it is nearly impossible to have an opinion without getting your head bit off.

For example, I think we should help in Ukraine but not send them billions in weapons because that is basically taking a side and participating in a war.  Whoops, sorry I just pissed everyone off because I'm not saying to completely stay out of Ukraine, nor am I saying to give them all the weapons.

I think adults of sound mind should have the ability to do whatever they and their care provider feels best about gender.  But, I am not OK with young children being presented with content by schools and teachers leading them to question and affirm a gender for themselves when they are not even at an age where gender normally enters into the equation.  Whoops, once again, I am not saying transgender bad but am also not affirming the idea of gender education for children, so I'm both transphobic and at the same time a trans-ally, depending on who you talk to.

Essentially, what I am saying here, off or on topic, is that it is very easy for us to point at and hate people who are on the "other side", when in reality most of our politicians are corrupt and we elect them anyway.  Most of the media and social media filter through the lenses of "all or nothing", "right or left", and drive people on opposite sides to hate each other instead of finding common ground.  I'm fucking sick of it.

Fuck DeSantis, Fuck Trump, Fuck Harris, Fuck Biden, Fuck Pelosi, Fuck AOC, Fuck Taylor-Greene, Fuck Schummer, Fuck Todd, Fuck Gulliani, fuck ALL OF THEM.  But most of all fuck all of us for giving them the power and votes to get into office and to use their influence to shape American society into a bunch of people who can't find middle ground anymore, and who willfully see everyone who disagrees as "the other".  Fuck us for being so blind to now be in this situation and to only have these people to vote for.  Most of all fuck us because while we argue over which politician is more corrupt or which cause is more righteous, they just sit in their offices and do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it.
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Reply #50 on: May 19, 2023, 11:10:57 PM
Well stated seeker83

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Reply #51 on: May 20, 2023, 12:01:13 AM
In case you were wondering.



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Reply #52 on: May 20, 2023, 12:57:09 AM
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. — Lord Acton(1887)

I think there’s plenty to criticize on both sides. Are they the same? Absolutely not.

Give me the party that at least pretends to care about the common man, pretends to care about access to voting, pretends to care about helping the less fortunate. Pretends to care about widows, orphans, the elderly, and the disabled.

Look at McCarthy and the right threatening to put America into default (and destroy the economy) unless we also agree to reduce veterans’ benefits, reduce benefits for the poor, and even require Medicaid recipients to prove they are looking for work to get medical benefits.

And they wrap their shit sundae in a flag, and claim to “love” America, while burning books, persecuting women, minorities, LGBTQs, and anyone else who is not a WASP.

End of rant. And, oh yes, give Ukraine the fucking F-16’s.

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Reply #53 on: May 20, 2023, 06:22:59 PM



P.S. Asserting that Jews control the financial system and the media is a longstanding antisemitic trope that is as false as it is distasteful.






I bow to your wisdom.


All this while, I had been under the illusion that Jews are disproportionately represented in the media. They are clearly not.


I was under the illusion that Jews control the entertainment media; but you have clarified things for me. I have now come to the conclusion, that, they are not in control of Hollywood.


Thank you for the enlightenment.





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Reply #54 on: May 20, 2023, 11:41:45 PM



P.S. Asserting that Jews control the financial system and the media is a longstanding antisemitic trope that is as false as it is distasteful.




I bow to your wisdom.

All this while, I had been under the illusion that Jews are disproportionately represented in the media. They are clearly not.

I was under the illusion that Jews control the entertainment media; but you have clarified things for me. I have now come to the conclusion, that, they are not in control of Hollywood.

Thank you for the enlightenment.



Your attempt at sarcasm falls desperately flat.

Look at the subtitle of the video:  "How the Jews Invented Hollywood."

I read the book that that video is based on several years ago, and I found it fascinating. As the subtitle indicates, there were many prominent Jewish people involved in the foundation of the American movie industry. But that foundational period began in the 1920s, which was about a century ago. Today, the main Hollywood studios are owned and operated by multinational corporations.





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Reply #55 on: May 22, 2023, 01:49:56 PM

“Trump and his accomplices are the most pathetic traitors ever. Cowards who need to be arrested immediately.”


Rinse off the contempt and there is indeed something pitiable about traitors. Merely feeling scorn for them is too simple, too easy, and ignores the essential tragedy of betrayal.


One of the several ways Donald Trump is outstanding in the traitor field: Unlike most, he’s playing for large stakes. The average traitor gets but little. Jonathan Pollard sold his country for a $2,500-a-year Israeli salary.


I could see an argument where the least responsible party in the current betrayal of America is Trump himself — he arrived on the political scene a long-established grifter and con man, congenital liar and serial fraud. How can he be held responsible for what followed?


Can a man without convictions, devoted only to advancing himself, be said to betray anything? There’s almost an innocence to Trump, the great orange man-baby, kicking and crying, pooping and dribbling, demanding his needs be met now.


Trump certainly lacks the conscience that tormented other traitors. The most famous traitor in American history, prior to Donald Trump, was Benedict Arnold. Benjamin Franklin wrote. “Arnold three sold out millions,” the U.S. population at the time.


To refresh your memory, Arnold was a Revolutionary War major general and a hero. He was with Ethan Allen and his Green Mountain Boys when they captured Fort Ticonderoga. Half his men died or deserted during the long march to Quebec City, where Arnold’s leg was pierced by a British musket ball. He was brave, daring, dedicated.


But Arnold’s heroism, rather than boost his sense of self-worth, only embittered him, and he felt insufficiently appreciated, the common motivation of traitors. He sulked. He complained to George Washington. He put feelers out to the British to sell the American fort at West Point, under his command.




Vidkun Quisling


No agony for Trump, who is incapable of feeling shame or remorse. In that sense, Trump is more like Vidkun Quisling, the betrayer of Norway, who embraced Hitler so enthusiastically it made the Nazis squirm.




Quisling had a Trumpian lack of self-perception. “I have in all my thoughts and deeds been led by a love for the Norwegian people,” the man who helped plan the Nazi invasion of Norway claimed at his trial for high treason after the war.


Facing a firing squad, Quisling insisted: “I am convicted unfairly and die innocent.”


We can expect no less from Trump and his circle, who will ceaselessly declare their love for America even as they stab at her heart.


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Reply #56 on: May 23, 2023, 12:50:36 PM
Wow. this place is full of brainwashed liberals i see.



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Reply #57 on: May 23, 2023, 02:56:02 PM
Wow. this place is full of brainwashed liberals i see.



What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things, I have ever heard.

At no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.

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Reply #58 on: May 23, 2023, 04:31:26 PM
Wow. this place is full of brainwashed liberals i see.

Well, if you're trying to have a discourse.  I am not sure that's the best way to start.  However, I was a very staunch conservative until they started to try to erase me and kill me.  Yes, kill me. Taking away medications I need to live is trying to kill me.

Also, where you said, "liberals i see."  Then I should tell you that the I should be capitalized.  Grammarly is free.  You should check it out.

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Reply #59 on: February 17, 2024, 07:22:16 PM
A man is stuck in traffic. Suddenly, there's a knock on the window. He rolls it down and asks what's needed. "Terrorists have taken ex-president Trump hostage and are demanding a $10 million ransom, otherwise they'll douse him in gasoline and set him on fire. We decided to go car to car, whoever gives what they can." "Well... I can give 5 gallons..."

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