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Reply #100 on: September 08, 2022, 03:09:48 AM
Russian propagandist confirms encirclement of Russian elite units in Kharkiv Oblast
Wed, September 7, 2022, 6:39 AM·3 min read

Lightning Ukrainian advance in Kharkiv Oblast sees Russian troops caught in pocket

Read also: Russians shell Slovyansk, Kharkiv, Nikopol, and Marhanets overnight

According to the propagandist, who is well-known in the circles of supporters of Russian aggression against Ukraine,, the Russian units are now out of communications contact, which may indicate their destruction or capture.

Read also: Russia’s transfer of forces to south likely enabling Ukraine’s offensives in Kharkiv, Donbas

"I confirm the encirclement of the assembled detachments of the Samara and Bashkir SOBRs within the boundaries of Balakliya,” the update reads.

“Yesterday we were in contact with the boys, today there is none.”

Read also: Over 40% of Russian mercenaries in Kharkiv Oblast seriously wounded or killed, says General Staff

In addition, he stated that the Ukrainian army in Kharkiv Oblast is conducting an offensive on two axes at once: Kupyansk and Izyum.

"The advance to Izyum poses not only a threat to the headquarters of the Russian Armed Forces group on this axis, but also to the rear of our troops on the Slovyansk axis,” the military blogger added.


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Reply #101 on: September 08, 2022, 03:35:08 AM
Russian propagandist confirms encirclement of Russian elite units in Kharkiv Oblast
Wed, September 7, 2022, 6:39 AM·3 min read

Lightning Ukrainian advance in Kharkiv Oblast sees Russian troops caught in pocket

Read also: Russians shell Slovyansk, Kharkiv, Nikopol, and Marhanets overnight

According to the propagandist, who is well-known in the circles of supporters of Russian aggression against Ukraine,, the Russian units are now out of communications contact, which may indicate their destruction or capture.

Read also: Russia’s transfer of forces to south likely enabling Ukraine’s offensives in Kharkiv, Donbas

"I confirm the encirclement of the assembled detachments of the Samara and Bashkir SOBRs within the boundaries of Balakliya,” the update reads.

“Yesterday we were in contact with the boys, today there is none.”

Read also: Over 40% of Russian mercenaries in Kharkiv Oblast seriously wounded or killed, says General Staff

In addition, he stated that the Ukrainian army in Kharkiv Oblast is conducting an offensive on two axes at once: Kupyansk and Izyum.

"The advance to Izyum poses not only a threat to the headquarters of the Russian Armed Forces group on this axis, but also to the rear of our troops on the Slovyansk axis,” the military blogger added.

and these were the guys who won the battle of Kursk (Prokhorovka)?

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Reply #102 on: September 08, 2022, 11:48:14 AM

and these were the guys who won the battle of Kursk (Prokhorovka)?


My wife’s grandfather fought at Kursk. Her mother is buried near there.

The Russians were defending their homeland. The Ukrainians are defending theirs now.

What we are seeing here are Russian conscripts from the hinterlands. Poorly trained. Poorly equipped. Poorly led. Cannon fodder.

640 Russian reportedly killed or wounded yesterday. By comparison, America’s deadliest day in Vietnam was the loss of 246, during the Tet Offensive on January 31, 1968.

“We hoped for the best, but it turned out as usual.” — Viktor Chernomyrdin, former Russian Prime minister.

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Reply #103 on: September 09, 2022, 06:03:36 PM
Further evidence:

Russians Abandoning Positions in Kharkiv Counter-Offensive: Report

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-abandoning-positions-kharkiv-counteroffensive-ukraine-1741061?amp=1

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Reply #105 on: September 13, 2022, 05:57:55 AM
It is all falling apart now. Ukraine has completely re-taken the Kharkiv region. That includes the the second largest city in Ukraine, that has been in Russian control since March. And now they have completely isolated tens of thousands of Russian troops on the west side of the Dnipro River. Reportedly they are negotiating surrender.

Russia's 810th marine brigade, based normally in the Crimea, saw 80 percent to its unit wiped out during recent fighting. When Kherson falls, Putin’s goose is cooked. He will be deposed.

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Reply #107 on: September 13, 2022, 06:11:20 AM





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Reply #108 on: September 13, 2022, 06:29:23 AM

and these were the guys who won the battle of Kursk (Prokhorovka)?


My wife’s grandfather fought at Kursk. Her mother is buried near there.

The Russians were defending their homeland. The Ukrainians are defending theirs now.

What we are seeing here are Russian conscripts from the hinterlands. Poorly trained. Poorly equipped. Poorly led. Cannon fodder.

640 Russian reportedly killed or wounded yesterday. By comparison, America’s deadliest day in Vietnam was the loss of 246, during the Tet Offensive on January 31, 1968.

“We hoped for the best, but it turned out as usual.” — Viktor Chernomyrdin, former Russian Prime minister.

I was meaning no disrespect, but the russians at Kursk managed to win the worlds largest tank war, but now are getting their asses handed to them by the defenders. And the russians proving their ineptitude.

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Reply #109 on: September 13, 2022, 07:18:04 AM

I was meaning no disrespect, but the russians at Kursk managed to win the worlds largest tank war, but now are getting their asses handed to them by the defenders. And the russians proving their ineptitude.



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Reply #110 on: September 13, 2022, 07:36:54 PM
Hopefully those tanks have plenty of ammo and the Ukranians put them to good use.




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Reply #111 on: September 13, 2022, 08:18:51 PM
With the recent successes of the Ukrainians sending the Russians running, some in total panic it's reported, my fear is out of desperation Putin may sink to using tactical nukes

That will put the US on the spot on how to respond.

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Reply #112 on: September 13, 2022, 08:27:21 PM
With the recent successes of the Ukrainians sending the Russians running, some in total panic it's reported, my fear is out of desperation Putin may sink to using tactical nukes

That will put the US on the spot on how to respond.

I’m very deep into this war.  I follow all the tactical and combat threads and read all of the reports issued by military experts. The consensus is Putin will never do that, because there will be an immediate coup to remove him. Going nuclear is not just an escalation. It is declaring war on the world. Russia has been irreparably damaged already, and it will only get worse. Once winter hits.

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Reply #113 on: September 13, 2022, 08:30:19 PM
With the recent successes of the Ukrainians sending the Russians running, some in total panic it's reported, my fear is out of desperation Putin may sink to using tactical nukes

That will put the US on the spot on how to respond.

If Putin resorts to using nukes of any kind, I expect one of two things:

1. His removal from office or assassination by his own people. It'll be the Gulag or the grave.

or/possibly also:

2. NATO stepping in. They won't put up with that so close to their countries. Other non-NATO countries might even join in.

No way Putin remains in power for long if he resorts to tactical nukes.

PH is right. Nukes spell his doom, one way or the other.



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Reply #114 on: September 13, 2022, 08:56:03 PM
One thing that's been really interesting to me has been learning a few things about military doctrine, and how the Russian approach differs from much of the rest of the world.

As I understand, the Russians use a strict top-down approach when handing out orders and information. Basically, orders and info trickles down from the top rank to the rank below, then a little bit of that to the rank below that, etc. Soldiers are micromanaged almost to the individual level and free-thought and initiative isn't tolerated, whereas individual soldiers also don't know much about what's going on or what the next move is. That would explain why some of the Russians honestly thought they were going on to the next training mission when they were actually entering Ukraine, or why so many were so easily convinced that Ukraine is a giant Nazi theme park.

Meanwhile, the US, Europe, and Ukraine, use a 'mission command' approach, where information is shared more freely, soldiers have more freedom of thought and action, team work is not only tolerated but also encouraged, etc.

One of the big advantages is supposed to be that if a group of soldiers loses contact with the rest, or their commanding officer catches a bullet, then they still have enough information and initiative to complete their mission. Meanwhile, under the Russian top-down approach, a loss of contact or a commanding officer basically paralyses that group of soldiers, because they don't have the information and freedom to do anything on their own.

Someone feel free to correct me if I was talking out of my ass on any of this  ;D



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Reply #115 on: September 13, 2022, 09:51:18 PM
Sounds about right to me CT. I can speak from my knowledge of tactics in the 60s. We were given examples from WW II. Platoon leader gets shot, Platoon Sgt. takes charge and on.down.the line.

Russians idea is just to blast the hell out of everything. There's no consideration for their troops. They're cannon fodder. Ruskies rely on artillery fire from a distance and mopping up with tanks.

During WW II, Gen. Eisenhower was escorting a Russian general showing him preparations for D Day. When Ike showed him special tanks that had rollers on the front to clear mine fields, the Russian said why go to all this trouble? We just order a company.of men to run across the mine field

Such is the mind set of the Russians.

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Reply #116 on: September 13, 2022, 10:19:55 PM
Sounds about right to me CT. I can speak from my knowledge of tactics in the 60s. We were given examples from WW II. Platoon leader gets shot, Platoon Sgt. takes charge and on.down.the line.

Russians idea is just to blast the hell out of everything. There's no consideration for their troops. They're cannon fodder. Ruskies rely on artillery fire from a distance and mopping up with tanks.

During WW II, Gen. Eisenhower was escorting a Russian general showing him preparations for D Day. When Ike showed him special tanks that had rollers on the front to clear mine fields, the Russian said why go to all this trouble? We just order a company.of men to run across the mine field

Such is the mind set of the Russians.

My grandfather fought in WW2 as part of the engineering corps, and said the Russians were the sloppiest, worst/least trained soldiers he ever saw, not much more than thugs. Things haven't changed. On the other hand, the Spetznaz (Russian Special Forces; they're ALL Spetznaz, do not have diffrent SF groups like the Green Berets, SEALs, etc) are scary as hell. Deaths during training are commonplace.

Invasions of Russia during the past have famously failed, most notably by Napoleon and the Nazis. But those were due to the troops not being prepared, not because of the Russian army. And a modern invasion attempt in winter would likely include thermal and incendiary weapons, which didn't really exist in WW2 excepf for the now-obsolete flamethrower.




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Reply #117 on: September 13, 2022, 10:40:45 PM

Someone feel free to correct me if I was talking out of my ass on any of this  ;D


That’s why HIMARS have been so effectively used by the Ukrainian defenders. Multiple “command centers” far behind battle lines have been taken out in recent weeks, resulting in multiple deaths in the chain of command, and chaos on the battlefield for Russia troops waiting for someone to tell them what to do. The “second most powerful army in the world“ is looking more like a paper tiger. I don’t think Russia will ever have the same level of respect again. And I noticed today that there are border fights already breaking out between Armenia and Azerbaijan. The natives are growing restless.
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Reply #118 on: September 14, 2022, 04:51:17 AM
Oopsy, I may have found the problem..  :o


They blew the majority of the military budget on propaganda, and forgot that teaching their soldiers cool tricks for music videos doesn't translate into fighting well in a real war  ;D



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Reply #119 on: September 15, 2022, 03:15:46 PM
“Do you [Russia] still believe that we are one people? Do you still think that you can frighten, crush, and bend us into submission? You really understand nothing? You don’t realize who we are? What we are for? What we are about? Read my lips: No gas or no you? No you. No lights or no you? No you. Cold, hunger, darkness, and thirst – for us these are less frightening and less deadly than your friendship and brotherhood. But history will arrange everything. And we will have gas, electricity, water, and food – and we won’t have you.” — Volodymyr Zelensky
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