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Reply #640 on: April 08, 2020, 01:45:02 PM

I've never been much of a worrier.  That all changed in the last 4-5 years since losing loved ones while at the same time adopting my niece, marrying Dan and becoming a family with he and his two daughters.   Loner Jules would have been okay with this stuff.  Family Jules is not.

My biggest concern with this is wiping it out completely.  It's an impossible task.   There will always be someone that is asymptomatic.  They can unknowingly spread it around for 14 days, at which time all those people they come into contact with are spreading it around.   I just don't see how it will ever end.

There is speculation that this will become a recurring seasonal affliction in the years to come. Let's hope they come up with a vaccine before next spring.



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Reply #641 on: April 08, 2020, 03:29:56 PM
There is speculation that this will become a recurring seasonal affliction in the years to come. Let's hope they come up with a vaccine before next spring.

If the vaccine will be anything like the flu vaccine, will it only be effective against a certain strain?  These viruses mutate so fast that today's prevention is tomorrow's maybe.

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Reply #642 on: April 08, 2020, 04:51:56 PM



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Reply #643 on: April 09, 2020, 03:52:47 PM

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Reply #644 on: April 09, 2020, 10:26:36 PM
Herd immunity, the question is at what point will we achieve that and from what percentage of those injected versus the percentage of those vaccinated.  I prefer to be one of the vaccinated.

Again, my understanding is somewhat fuzzy here so I'll try not to stray into specifics I don't understand correctly, but vaccines are not so much an alternative to herd immunity as they serve to artificially boost herd immunity. By all means, the earlier a vaccine can be developed for COVID-19, the better, but the key point is that regardless of the vaccine there will come a time when this strain of coronavirus is no more a threat to humans than any of the strains already in circulation. Our path to "beating" COVID-19 does not involve wiping it out of existence entirely but rather reaching a point where the average person no longer distinguishes it from the common cold.

As GB stated, the virus is here to stay.  The strategy is to “flatten the curve” so our emergency medical centers are not overwhelmed, and slow the progress of the virus while we race to discover an effective vaccine and treatment protocol, but it will still be here.  The 1918 H1N1 pandemic had three waves.  The first in the spring of 1918, the second and far more deadly in the fall of 1918, and the third in the spring of 1919.  Each wave was characterized by a mutation in the virus.  I don’t think we should expect any different.



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Reply #645 on: April 10, 2020, 12:25:42 AM
Planning for that tattoo, when this is over.  YOLO.




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Reply #646 on: April 10, 2020, 03:35:07 PM
On Wednesday, TSA screened 94,931 people. This was the first time since 1954 that the number of people flying in the United States was under 100,000. And it was a 96% decrease from the same time last year.

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Reply #647 on: April 10, 2020, 04:00:13 PM
On Wednesday, TSA screened 94,931 people. This was the first time since 1954 that the number of people flying in the United States was under 100,000. And it was a 96% decrease from the same time last year.

If the number of ball fondling targets was down 96%, I bet the few who showed up all got body cavity searches.  I think I will avoid air travel for the time being.



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Reply #648 on: April 10, 2020, 04:07:39 PM
On Wednesday, TSA screened 94,931 people. This was the first time since 1954 that the number of people flying in the United States was under 100,000. And it was a 96% decrease from the same time last year.

If the number of ball fondling targets was down 96%, I bet the few who showed up all got body cavity searches.  I think I will avoid air travel for the time being.

After 9/11, it took the airline industry 2 1/2 years to get back to where they were before 9/11.

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Reply #649 on: April 10, 2020, 06:32:04 PM
CJ had to put a sign up at the temp job telling people to stop fucking discarding gloves and masks in the fucking parking lot.

They're fucking EVERYWHERE! And even in the grass. These morons are so god damned scared of it, yet dump potentially contaminated material on the ground. People are so fucking stupid!!  :emot_banghead:



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Reply #650 on: April 10, 2020, 06:49:49 PM
I agree, Chirp.  Yesterday, when it was very windy, I saw numerous discarded gloves blowing down the street.  Slobs.

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Reply #651 on: April 11, 2020, 02:46:27 AM
Listening to PBS on the way home from work today.  They were talkinig about all the staff changes, empty positions and people that have not been confirmed to positions yet.

Want to know why we weren't ready for COVID?  Trump and the chaos he spreads.  We've got a president that does not get along with anyone so his administration has been mared by resignations and firings throughout.

We had a chance to get rid of him with impeachment, but Mitch McConnell blocked it.  Blood is on his hands, too.



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Reply #652 on: April 11, 2020, 03:26:08 AM
The House Intelligence Committee Chairman knew in November, and in Early December, about the possible seriousness of the Wuhan, China deadly virus, and chose to ignore the briefing, and concentrate on C Span TV broadcasting of Impeachment, near exclusively.  They followed this in the House with Speaker Pelosi holding up the transmission of the Articles to the Senate for a month.

And they bragged about it on TV, handing out special order Pens and so forth, as the virus was spreading, and gaining traction in California, Pelosi's State.

The Speaker was shown nodding off during the State Of The Union Address, when the President spoke about the Wuhan, China virus, and how we were assisting China, sending them medical supplies.

When President Trump cut off air traffic, and travel to and from China, he was mocked, called Racist by House Democrats... lucky he acted when he did, and too bad the Intel Committee Chair did not act at all in a timely manner on the information his committee was sent early on.


Listening to PBS on the way home from work today.  They were talkinig about all the staff changes, empty positions and people that have not been confirmed to positions yet.

Want to know why we weren't ready for COVID?  Trump and the chaos he spreads.  We've got a president that does not get along with anyone so his administration has been mared by resignations and firings throughout.

We had a chance to get rid of him with impeachment, but Mitch McConnell blocked it.  Blood is on his hands, too.

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Reply #653 on: April 11, 2020, 03:35:37 AM
If I wanted to read this sort of absolute bullshit, I just log in to Fox News or Breitbart. There’s no need to cut and paste the daily talking points. We’ve heard it all before. And it’s bullshit. We’re not buying it. And we’re voting your dictator out of office in November.  Buy your ammo now, because the blacks in Chicago know where you live, and we’re coming for your guns.



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Reply #654 on: April 11, 2020, 05:01:12 AM
  No gun sales, or ammo sales in Washington, DC, despite SCOTUS rulings to the contrary and lots of locals have firearms, can hear the shots nightly outside.

  Only criminals can purchase guns and ammo here, sadly.

  As JoE says, if his teleprompter works:  "No joke"...

  Lift the National Emergency soonest, no further larded bailout bills needed.

  Each State can decide the Social Distancing and other remedial needs, and each operating business can decide how to protect their customers and employees, and those who wish to be Open, shall be Open, Productive, save for local politicians who may wish to keep their citizens from economic recovery.

  No need for mail fraud in November, be there to vote, or not, as voter wishes.

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Reply #655 on: April 11, 2020, 06:51:37 AM
Hey look at that, the liberal piece of shit we know as “toe” is back.



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Reply #656 on: April 11, 2020, 03:37:33 PM
Rev Jerry Baker has something you can spend your stimulus check on.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/11/jim-bakker-coronavirus-cure/


After televangelist Jim Bakker suggested on his show that colloidal silver could cure the novel coronavirus, the Missouri Attorney General’s Office announced Tuesday that it is suing him as part of a larger effort among law enforcement to crack down on fake treatments for the viral illness.

Bakker, a disgraced TV preacher in Branson, Mo., has long peddled “Silver Solution” as a cure or treatment for a number of aches and ailments, which medical professionals and the federal government have roundly rejected. Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt is asking a judge for a temporary restraining order to stop him from hawking the bogus cure as a way to treat coronavirus. The virus has so far infected more than 1,000 people and killed 31 in the United States as the federal government scrambles to control its spread.



That guy is an asshat

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Reply #657 on: April 11, 2020, 04:11:03 PM
Disgraced Right Wing Nut Alex Jones Is Told to Stop Selling Sham Anti-Coronavirus Toothpaste

Mr. Jones, who has used his radio show and website to promote conspiracy theories, is falsely claiming his products can fight the virus.  He got picked up on DWI charges shortly after receiving a cease and desist order.



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Reply #658 on: April 11, 2020, 05:09:13 PM
Rev Jerry Baker has something you can spend your stimulus check on.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/11/jim-bakker-coronavirus-cure/


After televangelist Jim Bakker suggested on his show that colloidal silver could cure the novel coronavirus, the Missouri Attorney General’s Office announced Tuesday that it is suing him as part of a larger effort among law enforcement to crack down on fake treatments for the viral illness.

Bakker, a disgraced TV preacher in Branson, Mo., has long peddled “Silver Solution” as a cure or treatment for a number of aches and ailments, which medical professionals and the federal government have roundly rejected. Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt is asking a judge for a temporary restraining order to stop him from hawking the bogus cure as a way to treat coronavirus. The virus has so far infected more than 1,000 people and killed 31 in the United States as the federal government scrambles to control its spread.



That guy is an asshat

Wonder how Peter Popoff is trying to cash in on this.  :roll:



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Reply #659 on: April 11, 2020, 05:35:53 PM
Rev Jerry Baker has something you can spend your stimulus check on.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/11/jim-bakker-coronavirus-cure/


After televangelist Jim Bakker suggested on his show that colloidal silver could cure the novel coronavirus, the Missouri Attorney General’s Office announced Tuesday that it is suing him as part of a larger effort among law enforcement to crack down on fake treatments for the viral illness.

Bakker, a disgraced TV preacher in Branson, Mo., has long peddled “Silver Solution” as a cure or treatment for a number of aches and ailments, which medical professionals and the federal government have roundly rejected. Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt is asking a judge for a temporary restraining order to stop him from hawking the bogus cure as a way to treat coronavirus. The virus has so far infected more than 1,000 people and killed 31 in the United States as the federal government scrambles to control its spread.



That guy is an asshat

I agree. He is even trying to say it wasn't him hawking the stuff but that it was his guests who were peddling the stuff.  A true huckster and fraud.

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