MLB Hall of Fame Membership

[Remington555]

To my way of thinking, a professional sports hall of fame should be about an athlete's career on the field, not their personal life.

If there are going to be moral standards applied, where does the line get drawn? Murder, domestic abuse, cheating on taxes? How about being a blatant racist or a womanizer?

If everyone elected to the hall of fame had been subject to moral standards, even of their own era, there would be a lot fewer people enshrined there.

Remmy

[Athos_131]

Rule 21

(d) GAMBLING.

(1) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform, shall be declared ineligible for one year.

(2) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform, shall be declared permanently ineligible.

(3) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who places bets with illegal book makers, or agents for illegal book makers, shall be subject to such penalty as the Commissioner deems appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct. Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who operates or works for an illegal bookmaking business shall be subject to a minimum of a one-year suspension by the Commissioner. For purposes of this provision, an illegal bookmaker is an individual who accepts, places or handles wagers on sporting events from members of the public as part of a gaming operation that is unlawful in the jurisdiction in which the bets are accepted.

Rose knew the rules.  They are cut and dry.  He broke them.  

#Resist

[MintJulie]

He has his record of most base hits.  That's all he deserves.   He broke the rules.

#NopeNopeNope

[watcher1]

Charley Hustle deserves to be in the Hall of Fame only if it can be proven that his gambling on games did not involve the final outcome in those games.  I can't remember if he had bet on his own team or not.

[Athos_131]

He did.

Both as a player and a manager.

Entries in long-hidden notebook show Pete Rose bet on baseball as player

Yes, he admitted in 2004, after almost 15 years of denials, he had placed bets on baseball, but he insisted it was only as a manager.

But new documents obtained by Outside the Lines indicate Rose bet extensively on baseball -- and on the Cincinnati Reds -- as he racked up the last hits of a record-smashing career in 1986. The documents go beyond the evidence presented in the 1989 Dowd report that led to Rose's banishment and provide the first written record that Rose bet while he was still on the field.

He knew the rules.  He broke them.  They are explicit.

#Resist

[watcher1]

Thanks. Did not know that.

[Athos_131]

Rule 21

(d) GAMBLING.

(1) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform, shall be declared ineligible for one year.

(2) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform, shall be declared permanently ineligible.

(3) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who places bets with illegal book makers, or agents for illegal book makers, shall be subject to such penalty as the Commissioner deems appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct. Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who operates or works for an illegal bookmaking business shall be subject to a minimum of a one-year suspension by the Commissioner. For purposes of this provision, an illegal bookmaker is an individual who accepts, places or handles wagers on sporting events from members of the public as part of a gaming operation that is unlawful in the jurisdiction in which the bets are accepted.

I forgot this little tidbit.

(g) RULE TO BE KEPT POSTED. A printed copy in English and Spanish of this Rule 21 shall be kept posted in each clubhouse.

#Resist

[MintJulie]

(g) RULE TO BE KEPT POSTED. A printed copy in English and Spanish of this Rule 21 shall be kept posted in each clubhouse.

#Resist

We did a tour of Ford Field (Lions), Little Caesars Arena (Pistons/RedWings), and Comerica Park (Tigers).   Every locker room had rules posted about gambling.