The Green New Deal

[Athos_131]

Yellow Wall seems threatened by the shiny new toy.

#Resist

[Lois]

Lois, the attached is what AOC originally posted, then had scrubbed from her site, regarding the GND (Green New Deal), and I hope you will find what you are seeking by reading it closely.  Enjoy.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5729035/Green-New-Deal-FAQ.pdf

Sorry, but this is not the text of the proposal.  Most likely it is a flawed document and that why it was taken down.  Please use the actual text of the proposal to show what you think is terrible about it.

[Jed_]

Yellow Wall seems threatened by the shiny new toy.

#Resist

They all seem to be.  The best reason to like this cute 29 year old freshman congresswoman is the enjoyment I get watching all the Republicans get their heavily starched panties all bound and twisted up their anuses about her.

And, as if this Green New Deal is somehow more pie-in-the-sky for the country than huge tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations that used that money to further augment their wealth and as stock buy backs were actually supposed to stimulate the economy.  The Republicans have their ideology and no facts will ever dissuade them.  At least the Green New Deal is visionary in the right direction, and any hiccups in going that direction will be well worth it.

[joan1984]

IF you ever find the actual text of a actual proposal, please share it here.

Lois, the attached is what AOC originally posted, then had scrubbed from her site, regarding the GND (Green New Deal), and I hope you will find what you are seeking by reading it closely.  Enjoy.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5729035/Green-New-Deal-FAQ.pdf

Sorry, but this is not the text of the proposal.  Most likely it is a flawed document and that why it was taken down.  Please use the actual text of the proposal to show what you think is terrible about it.

[Lois]

@ Joan

You already posted it: https://www.gp.org/gnd_full

[joan1984]

Previous posts I made may include a Green Party version, which I am not sure is the same as the actual proposal made before Congress on February 7, 2019.

Here is the cleanest version I can find of the actual GND as proposed formally:

Here’s The Full Text Of Congress’ Green New Deal Resolution, Introduced By Rep. Alexandra Ocasio Cortez
February 8th, 2019 by Jeremy Bloom

116TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION H. RES. ____

Recognizing the duty of the Federal Government to create a Green New
Deal.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Ms. OCASIO-CORTEZ submitted the following resolution; which was referred to
the Committee on ______
RESOLUTION
Recognizing the duty of the Federal Government to create
a Green New Deal.

Whereas the October 2018 report entitled ‘‘Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5oC’’ by the intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and the November 2018 Fourth National Climate Assessment report found that—

human activity is the dominant cause of observed climate change over the past century;
a changing climate is causing sea levels to rise and an increase in wildfires, severe storms, droughts, and other extreme weather events that threaten human life, healthy communities, and critical infrastructure
global warming at or above 2 degrees Celsius beyond preindustrialized levels will cause—
mass migration from the regions most affected by climate change;
more than $500,000,000,000 in lost annual economic output in the United States by the year
2100;
wildfires that, by 2050, will annually burn at least twice as much forest area in the western
United States than was typically burned by wildfires in the years preceding 2019;
a loss of more than 99 percent of all coral reefs on Earth;
more than 350,000,000 more people to be exposed globally to deadly heat stress by 2050; and
a risk of damage to $1,000,000,000,000 of public infrastructure and coastal real estate in the
United States; and
global temperatures must be kept below 1.5 degrees Celsius above preindustrialized levels to avoid the most severe impacts of a changing climate, which will require—
global reductions in greenhouse gas emissions from human sources of 40 to 60 percent from
2010 levels by 2030; and
net-zero emissions by 2050;
Whereas, because the United States has historically been responsible for a disproportionate amount of greenhouse gas emissions, having emitted 20 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions through 2014, and has a high technological capacity, the United States must take a leading role in reducing emissions through economic transformation;

Whereas the United States is currently experiencing several related crises, with—

life expectancy declining while basic needs, such as clean air, clean water, healthy food, and adequate health care, housing, transportation, and education, are inaccessible to a significant portion of the United States population;
a 4-decade trend of economic stagnation, deindustrialization, and antilabor policies that has led
to—
hourly wages overall stagnating since the 1970s despite increased worker productivity;
the third-worst level of socioeconomic mobility in the developed world before the Great Recession
the erosion of the earning and bargaining power of workers in the United States; and
inadequate resources for public sector workers to confront the challenges of climate change
at local, State, and Federal levels; and
the greatest income inequality since the 1920s, with—
the top 1 percent of earners accruing 91percent of gains in the first few years of economic
recovery after the Great Recession;
a large racial wealth divide amounting to a difference of 20 times more wealth between the average White family and the average Black family; and
a gender earnings gap that results in women earning approximately 80 percent as much
as men, at the median;
Whereas climate change, pollution, and environmental destruction have exacerbated systemic racial, regional, social, environmental, and economic injustices (referred to in this preamble as ‘‘systemic injustices’’) by disproportionately affecting indigenous communities, communities of color, migrant communities, deindustrialized communities, depopulated rural communities, the poor, low-income workers, women, the elderly, the unhoused, people with disabilities, and youth (referred to in this preamble as ‘‘frontline and vulnerable communities’’);

Whereas, climate change constitutes a direct threat to the national security of the United States—

by impacting the economic, environmental, and social stability of countries and communities around the world; and
by acting as a threat multiplier;
Whereas the Federal Government-led mobilizations during World War II and the New Deal created the greatest middle class that the United States has ever seen, but many members of frontline and vulnerable communities were excluded from many of the economic and societal benefits of those mobilizations; and

Whereas the House of Representatives recognizes that a new national, social, industrial, and economic mobilization on a scale not seen since World War II and the New Deal is a historic opportunity—

to create millions of good, high-wage jobs in the United States;
to provide unprecedented levels of prosperity and economic security for all people of the United States; and
to counteract systemic injustices:
Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that—

it is the duty of the Federal Government to create a Green New Deal—
to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions through a fair and just transition for all communities and workers;
to create millions of good, high-wage jobs and ensure prosperity and economic security for all people of the United States;
to invest in the infrastructure and industry of the United States to sustainably meet the challenges of the 21st century;
to secure for all people of the United States for generations to come—
(i) clean air and water;
(ii) climate and community resiliency;
(iii) healthy food;
(iv) access to nature; and
(v) a sustainable environment; and
to promote justice and equity by stopping current, preventing future, and repairing historic oppression of indigenous communities, communities of color, migrant communities, deindustrialized communities, depopulated rural communities, the poor, low-income workers, women, the elderly, the unhoused, people with disabilities, and youth (referred to in this resolution as ‘‘frontline and vulnerable communities’’);
the goals described in subparagraphs of paragraph (1) above (referred to in this
resolution as the ‘‘Green New Deal goals’’) should be accomplished through a 10-year national mobilization (referred to in this resolution as the ‘‘Green New Deal mobilization’’) that will require the following goals and projects—
building resiliency against climate change-related disasters, such as extreme weather, including by leveraging funding and providing investments for community-defined projects and strategies;
repairing and upgrading the infrastructure in the United States, including—
(i) by eliminating pollution and greenhouse gas emissions as much as technologically feasible;
(ii) by guaranteeing universal access to clean water;
(iii) by reducing the risks posed by flooding and other climate impacts; and
(iv) by ensuring that any infrastructure bill considered by Congress addresses climate change;
meeting 100 percent of the power demand in the United States through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources, including—
(i) by dramatically expanding and upgrading existing renewable power sources;  and
(ii) by deploying new capacity;
building or upgrading to energy-efficient, distributed, and ‘‘smart’’ power grids, and working to ensure affordable access to electricity;
upgrading all existing buildings in the United States and building new buildings to achieve maximal energy efficiency, water efficiency, safety, affordability, comfort, and durability, including through electrification;
spurring massive growth in clean manufacturing in the United States and removing pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from manufacturing and industry as much as is technologically feasible, including by expanding renewable energy manufacturing and investing in existing manufacturing and industry;
working collaboratively with farmers and ranchers in the United States to eliminate pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the agricultural sector as much as is technologically feasible, including—
(i) by supporting family farming;
(ii) by investing in sustainable farming and land use practices that increase soil health; and
(iii) by building a more sustainable food system that ensures universal access to healthy food;
 overhauling transportation systems in the United States to eliminate pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the transportation sector as much as is technologically feasible, including through investment in—
(i) zero-emission vehicle infrastructure and manufacturing;
(ii) clean, affordable, and accessible public transportation; and
(iii) high-speed rail;
mitigating and managing the long-term adverse health, economic, and other effects of pollution and climate change, including by providing funding for community-defined projects and strategies;
removing greenhouse gases from the atmosphere and reducing pollution, including by restoring natural ecosystems through proven low-tech solutions that increase soil carbon storage, such as preservation and afforestation;
restoring and protecting threatened, endangered, and fragile ecosystems through locally appropriate and science-based projects that enhance biodiversity and support climate resiliency;
cleaning up existing hazardous waste and abandoned sites to promote economic development and sustainability;
identifying other emission and pollution sources and creating solutions to eliminate them; and
promoting the international exchange of technology, expertise, products, funding, and services, with the aim of making the United States the international leader on climate action, and to help other countries achieve a Green New Deal;
a Green New Deal must be developed through transparent and inclusive consultation, collaboration, and partnership with frontline and vulnerable communities, labor unions, worker cooperatives, civil society groups, academia, and businesses; and
to achieve the Green New Deal goals and mobilization, a Green New Deal will require the following goals and projects—
providing and leveraging, in a way that ensures that the public receives appropriate ownership stakes and returns on investment, adequate capital (including through community grants, public banks, and other public financing), technical expertise, supporting policies, and other forms of assistance to communities, organizations, Federal, State, and local government agencies, and businesses working on the Green New Deal mobilization;
ensuring that the Federal Government takes into account the complete environmental and social costs and impacts of emissions through—
(i) existing laws;
(ii) new policies and programs; and
(iii) ensuring that frontline and vulnerable communities shall not be adversely affected;
providing resources, training, and high-quality education, including higher education, to all people of the United States, with a focus on frontline and vulnerable communities, so those communities may be full and equal participants in the Green New Deal mobilization;
making public investments in the research and development of new clean and renewable energy technologies and industries;
directing investments to spur economic development, deepen and diversify industry in local and regional economies, and build wealth and community ownership, while prioritizing high-quality job creation and economic, social, and environmental benefits in frontline and vulnerable communities that may otherwise struggle with the transition away from greenhouse gas intensive industries;
ensuring the use of democratic and participatory processes that are inclusive of and led by frontline and vulnerable communities and workers to plan, implement, and administer the Green New Deal mobilization at the local level;
ensuring that the Green New Deal mobilization creates high-quality union jobs that pay prevailing wages, hires local workers, offers training and advancement opportunities, and guarantees wage and benefit parity for workers affected by the transition;
guaranteeing a job with a family-sustaining wage, adequate family and medical leave, paid vacations, and retirement security to all people of the United States;
strengthening and protecting the right of all workers to organize, unionize, and collectively bargain free of coercion, intimidation, and harassment;
strengthening and enforcing labor, workplace health and safety, antidiscrimination, and wage and hour standards across all employers, industries, and sectors;
enacting and enforcing trade rules, procurement standards, and border adjustments with strong labor and environmental protections—
(i) to stop the transfer of jobs and pollution overseas; and
(ii) to grow domestic manufacturing in the United States;
ensuring that public lands, waters, and oceans are protected and that eminent domain is not abused;
obtaining the free, prior, and informed consent of indigenous people for all decisions that affect indigenous people and their traditional territories, honoring all treaties and agreements with indigenous people, and protecting and enforcing the sovereignty and land rights of indigenous people;
ensuring a commercial environment where every businessperson is free from unfair competition and domination by domestic or international monopolies; and
providing all people of the United States with—
(i) high-quality health care;
(ii) affordable, safe, and adequate housing;
(iii) economic security; and
(iv) access to clean water, clean air, healthy and affordable food, and nature.
 
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/02/08/heres-the-full-text-of-congress-green-new-deal-resolution-introduced-by-rep-alexandra-ocasio-cortez/

[joan1984]

Meanwhile...
Howard Schultz rips the 'Green New Deal':
'It's not realistic'
by Naomi Lim
 | February 12, 2019 10:53 PM

Possible independent presidential candidate and Democratic spoiler Howard Schultz on Tuesday dumped on Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ "Green New Deal," warning it would be "immoral" to spend trillions of dollars on an "unrealistic" solution.

The billionaire former Starbucks CEO and executive chairman urged Democrats to be "truthful" about their environmental initiatives rather than just throwing policies "against the wall because it's a good slogan."

"I read that by 2030 they're suggesting that every building in America becomes clean energy, conforms to clean energy, just to put that in perspective, because it's not realistic, that would mean that between 2,000 and 3,000 buildings a day would have to be reconstructed to conform to what they're saying," Schultz said. "So let's be sensible about what we're suggesting,"
 
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Schultz' comments are likely to further raise tensions between him and Democrats running against Trump. Several Democrats have said Schultz' candidacy would only split the anti-Trump vote and help Trump win re-election in 2020.

Schultz pledged that he would drop out if it becomes clear he can't win and that his campaign is only helping Trump, but said it's too early to make that assessment. In the meantime, he also criticized the "Green New Deal's" employment guarantee provision.

"I don't understand how you're going to give a job for everybody, how you're going to give free college to everybody, how you're going to create clean energy throughout the country in every building of the land," he said. "I think it's immoral to suggest that we can tally up $20, $30, $40, $50 trillion of debt to solve a problem that could be solved in a different way."

Schultz also scrutinized talk among Democrats about hiking the marginal tax rate on the country's richest people to 70 percent as "punitive."

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., on Tuesday capitalized on what has quickly become a wedge issue for Democrats by vowing to bring up the "Green New Deal" resolution for a vote in the Senate, a move that forces some Democrats to take a position on the controversial measure. The proposal outlines massive public investments in clean energy infrastructure, including a federal job guarantee to anybody seeking work during the transition to 100 percent renewable energy across all sectors by 2030.https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/howard-schultz-rips-the-green-new-deal-its-not-realistic

[Athos_131]

Meanwhile...
Howard Schultz rips the 'Green New Deal':
'It's not realistic'

#Resist

[psiberzerker]

But a wall keeping people out of America.  That's plausible.

I just have to appreciate the irony of the words

...not realistic'

[joan1984]

Of course, the Member knows that the 'Quote' indicated belongs to the subject of joan's post, Howard Shultz, and is not a direct quote of the Member: joan1984.

So far as I know, TheWall, under construction now, and into 2020 and beyond, is not a part of The Green New Deal, other than living with it's existence, once constructed, at whatever cost and time is necessary. The GND will be completed by 2030 supposedly...

Now: Back on Topic, please... The GND is a BFD as Joe Biden would say!

But a wall keeping peopleILLEGAL ALIENS, TRESPASSERS out of America.  That's plausible.

I just have to appreciate the irony of the words

...not realistic'

FTFY...

[Athos_131]

I'm not sure what a wall that we were told Mexico was going to fund has to do with title of this topic.

#Resist

[psiberzerker]

I'm not sure what a wall that we were told Mexico was going to fund has to do with title of this topic.

#Resist

We can't afford both.  In fact, we can't afford either one of them, but we'll get a lot farther on one designed to help people, and make America a nicer place, than one that's designed to keep people out, and make it "Great" again for those who already have everything they want, except more power.

Also, the irony of Joan1984 saying not realistic, when she just said:

But a wall keeping peopleILLEGAL ALIENS, TRESPASSERS out of America.

They're not PEOPLE.  They're aliens, trespassers, and that revokes their status as human beings.  

So far as I know, TheWall, under construction now, and into 2020 and beyond, is not a part of The Green New Deal, other than living with it's existence, once constructed, at whatever cost and time is necessary. The GND will be completed by 2030 supposedly.

Yeah, that's exactly what i asked you.  You really believe it's already under construction (It isn't) and it will be funded (It hasn't) and yet an investment in our Future (Which doesn't end at 2030, that's just as far as they have planned ahead at this point) is "Unrealistic."  

I know you don't have an original thought in your head, so it honestly doesn't fucking matter who said it first, you're regurgitating it up as if it's lemonaid, and not piss shoved down your throat.

The Wall is not part of The New Green Deal.  Accept it, your great and terrible orange one failed, and he's probably going to try to shut down the government again after the game, but he can't do that.

He doesn't have that power, he never did.  The Senate does, to block the House.  That's why they did it, but the Wall would be BAD for the environment, BAD for America, and BAD for our future.

So, it's not getting funded.  Period.

[psiberzerker]

So, back on topic.  We're just going to have to take over the Senate in 2020, so this can get funded.

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Also, you can just stop with "Off topic!" to tell me to STFU.  Just say STFU, this is in 1408 for a reason.  You can just come right out and say STFU.

[Lois]

Meanwhile...
Howard Schultz rips the 'Green New Deal':
'It's not realistic'

Here's the thing: It does not have to be realistic.  It's a resolution, not legislation. 

A resolution is a way of setting a goal, something to strive to acheive.

Ask any inventor.  No invention would have ever happened if a proplem was not identified and a solution imagined.  Very possibly everything on the laundry list is not atainable. But without imagining a solution we've lost before we've started.

[psiberzerker]

Also, why is the kneejerk reaction to any progressive idea to call it a "Ban!"  They're trying to ban guns, they want to ban cows, they're going to ban airplanes!  You know what airplanes symbolize?  American Progress.  Back in the day, at the turn of the last century, they said "If God had wanted us to fly, then he would have given us wings!"  You didn't have Andy Carnegie writing an editorial in the Washington Post that the Wright Brothers were trying to ban the trans-continental railroad.  Now, someone who's actually going to be alive in the future we dropped in her lap wants the high speed trains Walt fucking Disney promised us, and they're screaming that she wants to ban airplanes.  Like they're Abortions, or something.  No, she's a progressive.  You're thinking about the Elephant in the room, that always wants to ban things they don't like.

What's next, they'll say it'll shut-down the Government?

[Lois]

The right wing mentality is hard to fathom.  Promotion of high speed rail does not mean banning airplanes or autos.  It's about promoting healthier alternatives.  How anyone travels is still their choice.

And I'm still waiting for what is in the Green New Deal that Joan finds so offensive or dangerous.

[psiberzerker]

Right, they just can't seem to fathom the concept of Progress, so their ideas all seem to be some variation on setting us back to the days before we discovered Fossil Fuels (And used Whale Oil instead.)

Also, the irony of the "Conservatives" talking about Conservation.  

[joan1984]

United States Senate votes down Green New Deal, in Bipartisan vote.

Zero Democrats voted FOR the Green New Deal, including all those Senators now running for President who have endorsed the GND.