Safe Spaces On College Campuses Are Creating Intolerant Students

[psiberzerker]

I can’t imagine where these hypersensitive coddled immature little darlings expect to be employed once they do graduate?

It's difficult to speculate, but we know where they came from:  The public school system that pulled them out of class for exposing a knee, and sent them home for distracting the boys with teh sexy.  (Not sure how they expect those boys to work at jobs with female employees...)

What I really love is this generation being called spoiled by the generations that raised them, and the Baby Boom that created the world they're about to inheret.

Oh yeah, and Global Warming?  That's a hoax, Evolution is "Just a Theory" try not to get knocked up before you're married, and here's some Student Debt to get you started.

How dare they want a safe place where they can relax, and work on their studies!  In my day, we didn't have these activists, sitting in protest for equal rights!  What are you, stoned?

Mertyl, get th' hose, th' dadblamed Liberals is at it agin!

[Elizabeth]

Wait a minute.......
If you can't survive on campus (not taking about rape either) but about differences of opinion.....How do you expect to survive in real life where there is no such thing as a safe space...??.....you certainly can't suddenly jump up at a meeting and announce that you need you go to your safe space or you need your alone time because you don't agree with something or someone disagrees with you.....WTF.....you won't last 30 days in the world after you graduate (if you even manage that).
By the way.....I would NOT hire you.......

Love,
Liz

[IrishGirl]

I think by allowing echo chamber cultures to develop in colleges, they are preparing their students for culture shock once they graduate.

How do they prevent "Echo chamber cultures" from developing without censorship?  If the right to free speech only applies to one side of the argument, it's not a right, it's a privilege.  Everyone has the right to not be taken seriously.

Safe Spaces On College Campuses Are Creating Intolerant Students

Also, once again the thread title is misleading.  So far all I've seen is intolerant students attempting to create Safe Spaces.  You've got it bass akwards again.

Well, by NOT censoring you stop echo chambers from developing.  Also by ignoring trigger warnings, and by not trying to shut down opposing views either through violence or by screaming racist at everything and everyone you don't agree with, its actually really simple

[IdleBoast]

What I really love is this generation being called spoiled by the generations that raised them, and the Baby Boom that created the world they're about to inheret.

My sons are university age (though they've chosen different paths). They're far from spoiled, and the same for most people I know their age. The "safe space" perpetrators are a small, over-represented minority (most students actually go to university to learn stuff).

How dare they want a safe place where they can relax, and work on their studies!  In my day, we didn't have these activists, sitting in protest for equal rights!  What are you, stoned?

I choose to believe that's parody, since that is not the "safe space" being discussed.

[psiberzerker]

Well, by NOT censoring you stop echo chambers from developing.  Also by ignoring trigger warnings, and by not trying to shut down opposing views either through violence or by screaming racist at everything and everyone you don't agree with, its actually really simple

Everything, and everyone, eh?  Okay, then it should be simplicity itself for you to quote, or link 1 time I have ever "Screamed Racist."

[psiberzerker]

I choose to believe that's parody, since that is not the "safe space" being discussed.

English is implicitly inclusive. If I say "apples are green" then it's assumed that I mean All apples are green.

So, if you say "Safe Spaces," it's implied you mean All Safe Spaces, for everyone.

[IdleBoast]

And if you meant that seriously, I'm out.

Posting purely to be argumentative is a waste of bandwidth and my time.

[psiberzerker]

And if you meant that seriously, I'm out.

There it is.  If you're against safe spaces, for anyone but yourself, then you're against the safety of those people.  They need a quiet place to study.  They can protest what they're taught all they want, but if you would silence them, or vocally call to have state universities do it, you're against their 1st amendment rights.

I didn't post to be argumentative until little miss "Screaming Racist" did.  It's her thread, I didn't pick the quarter.  I'll be willing to talk rationally as soon as someone answers the pending question.  I won't repeat it again.  Scroll up...

[IdleBoast]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-45717841

[psiberzerker]

Hey, daddio.  Mind if I just snap my fingers, chill like?  Yeah.

I can just imagine Manchester United stopping to look at the stands, to see if they're cheering...

Then, riots

[Jed_]

Psi I get that you are either incapable of or simply refuse to grasp the concept of what’s being discussed in this thread, and it’s fully your prerogative to continue to clutter it with white noise, but why bother?

[psiberzerker]

   Fine, I'll be in Skyrim, then.

[MissBarbara]

Wait a minute.......
If you can't survive on campus (not taking about rape either) but about differences of opinion.....How do you expect to survive in real life where there is no such thing as a safe space...??.....you certainly can't suddenly jump up at a meeting and announce that you need you go to your safe space or you need your alone time because you don't agree with something or someone disagrees with you.....WTF.....you won't last 30 days in the world after you graduate (if you even manage that).
By the way.....I would NOT hire you.......

Love,
Liz

Because college campuses are the farthest possible thing from real life.

And because the landslides of crap you have to wade through on a college campus barely exist in real life.

If you can survive on a college campus, real life is a breeze.

[Jed_]

Wait a minute.......
If you can't survive on campus (not taking about rape either) but about differences of opinion.....How do you expect to survive in real life where there is no such thing as a safe space...??.....you certainly can't suddenly jump up at a meeting and announce that you need you go to your safe space or you need your alone time because you don't agree with something or someone disagrees with you.....WTF.....you won't last 30 days in the world after you graduate (if you even manage that).
By the way.....I would NOT hire you.......

Love,
Liz

Because college campuses are the farthest possible thing from real life.

And because the landslides of crap you have to wade through on a college campus barely exist in real life.

If you can survive on a college campus, real life is a breeze.

Well sure the majority can, but what about that hypersensitive minority that is creating the toxic environment?

[psiberzerker]

I get that you are either incapable of or simply refuse to grasp the concept of what’s being discussed in this thread...

What you apparently are incapable of grasping is the reason I Asked Questions is so I could better understand what's being said, in this thread.  So, just for future reference:  

If I repeat the question, and "Answer the question," repeatedly, it's not fucking rhetorical.  Get it?  I'm not asking for more accusations, nor insults to my intelligence, I'm looking for Answers.
 I'm not screaming "Racist," nor even disagreeing with anyone, I just want to further understand these complex subjects.

I also submit, that if nobody knows the answers to, how this is Safe Spaces creating intolerance, instead of Intolerant students demanding a Safe Space, then you guys probably don't fully understand what's going on here as well as you'd like to pretend to.

So, for future reference, if you understand this shit, better than I do?  Answer the fucking questions.  Otherwise, it's pretty safe to assume you don't have all the answer, either.

[Jed_]

The so called ‘safe places’ is just one of the numerous symptoms of the overall disease infecting college campuses.  Try not to dwell on just the one symptom.

[MissBarbara]

I also submit, that if nobody knows the answers to, how this is Safe Spaces creating intolerance, instead of Intolerant students demanding a Safe Space, then you guys probably don't fully understand what's going on here as well as you'd like to pretend to.

So, for future reference, if you understand this shit, better than I do?  Answer the fucking questions.  Otherwise, it's pretty safe to assume you don't have all the answer, either.

I don't have all the answers. Far from it. All I can offer is personal insights based on personal experience.

First off, safe spaces, at least in the U.S., are not limited to college campuses. They also exist, at least in some parts of the country, in both high schools and middle schools.

The concept of safe spaces is an example of a good idea that was poorly executed, and that had unintended (and unaddressed) consequences. And the chief unintended consequence is the way they try to promote tolerance and end up promoting intolerance. In middle schools and high schools, it's clearly top down: it's the school providing the safe space, and not the students demanding it.

In most schools, the safe spaces are for LGBT+ students. In concept, it's a place where these students who are "outside the norm" can come together and discuss decidedly personal issues in a manner that is free from judgement, ridicule, and condemnation. That, in theory, is a great idea. But it has two chief flaws. On the one hand, it begs the question: Is this school's environment so hostile toward LGBT+ students that they need a place where they can be protected from that hostility? In other words, safe from what, or from whom? On the other hand, virtually every school in the nation talks about diversity, and about celebrating diversity. But diversity should promote unity, and not a type of self-imposed apartheid. And, in the bigger picture, it contributes to labeling and, thus, viewing students as "different."

On the university level, these problems are compounded manyfold, chiefly in the way that the safe spaces end up shielding students from a diversity of opinions. They're places where students can hide from (or shield themselves from) opinions that they disagree with, that they find "offensive," or that they don't even want to consider. That's the opposite of diversity and, most important, it's the opposite of what the university experience should be all about. They end up promoting intolerance of diversity, and they create an atmosphere where speech is typed and defined, with some speech deemed acceptable, and some speech unacceptable. That's the antithesis of free speech, and it's the antithesis of tolerance and acceptance.

[Jed_]

I’ll give a specific example of overprotective parenting that has been termed ‘helicopter parenting’ that is theorized to create these hypersensitive college students termed ‘snowflakes’.

A couple years ago a woman in my neighborhood talking about her preschool little boy said she keeps him away from peanut butter.  So I commented, “Oh, he’s allergic to peanuts?”
She replied, “I don’t know, but I can’t take that chance.”

[MissBarbara]

I’ll give a specific example of overprotective parenting that has been termed ‘helicopter parenting’ that is theorized to create these hypersensitive college students termed ‘snowflakes’.

A couple years ago a woman in my neighborhood talking about her preschool little boy said she keeps him away from peanut butter.  So I commented, “Oh, he’s allergic to peanuts?”
She replied, “I don’t know, but I can’t take that chance.”

I'm not sure that's a result of "helicopter parenting." I think it's a symptom of a much older problem, usually referred to as "stupidity."

[ChirpingGirl]

I’ll give a specific example of overprotective parenting that has been termed ‘helicopter parenting’ that is theorized to create these hypersensitive college students termed ‘snowflakes’.

A couple years ago a woman in my neighborhood talking about her preschool little boy said she keeps him away from peanut butter.  So I commented, “Oh, he’s allergic to peanuts?”
She replied, “I don’t know, but I can’t take that chance.”

I'd microchip, leash, satellite track and post armed guards on my kids if I could.