Hillary For President 2020

[Athos_131]

Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador

You voted for a racist shitbag.

Go Fuck Yourself.

#Resist

Are you Crazy!!!  Stop reading Mother Jones, it will rot your brain.

I realize you being a neaderthal makes you too stupid to click on a hyperlink, but at least try.

Welcome to KB.

Go Fuck Yourself.

#Resist

[psiberzerker]

Congress>President.  House 2018.  Ready?  Go!

[Lois]

I voted for Hillary and still think she would do a fine job.  However, her time is past.  The Democratic Party should find some fresh blood.

But of course the righ-wingers would love for her to run again.  They've already spent a lot of money demonizing her and making up lies about her.  It would be a shame to waste all that money and have to start anew with another candidate.

[IrishGirl]

I campaigned for Sanders...

And when he lost I supported Hillary...and many of the people I made friends with on the Sanders Campaign turned on me.

Now I am at the point where I'm not going all in on any party, I'm just going to vote for whatever candidate seems to be furthest from the extremes. 

Because honestly, the far left is pissing me off as much as Trump.  The argument has moved from equality to just picking different groups to attack and oppress and...I want none of that.

[Quimby84]

I'm not American, neither do I live on the same continent.
In fact, my country is supposedly a shit bag country according to Trump.

However, when in 2015 he announced he would run for president, I knew he would win and, I'll say it now already, he will win again in 2020.
Especially if he runs against Clinton.

I have nothing against her and think her years of public service would be a credit to her but she needs to run again in 2024.
The DNC needs to "taken the loss" as it were and focus long term. Rebuild and unify and go balls to the wall in 2024.
They have spent too much time trying to discredit Trump and get him removed from office that they are in no condition to run a successful campaign.
Their focus is wrong.

Think about it.
If you had drunk Dr. Pepper your whole life and someone kept telling you it was bad for you and could back it up with facts but provided no alternative and reasons why the alternative was better, you will stick with Dr. Pepper.

The DNC needs to show and prove to people that their candidate is better. Don't bring Trump into it because then, even if you say negative things about him, you are still giving him publicity.

If I were to run for president, my focus would be on education, better policing and a more effective justice system as well as urban renewal via subsidies.
People need to feel safe.
And yes, finding work can be tough, but if people are educated and encouraged to be entrepreneurs, you aid the job market.

That aside....

Trump is a TV celebrity who knows how to stay "popular" to achieve ratings because ratings is what keeps a show on the air.
It this same when it comes to getting people to vote.
If you can make them believe that you are relevant, they will want more of you.

You think people were shocked in 2016 when Trump won? Watch people lose their minds when he does it again in 2020

[psiberzerker]

I would like to see a good alternate candidate, to Hillary Clinton, but I hate reruns, and I never considered her Presidential material.  She did a great job as Secretary of State, and we could really use her as Secretary of Education, but honestly, she has a lot of the same problems President Trump has as CEO.

[Athos_131]

Hillary Clinton is not running for President again. She has said so.  By furthering this discussion you merely entertain the OP's trolling effort.

Thanks.

#Resist

[IrishGirl]

Rebuild and unify and go balls to the wall in 2024.

The issue is the extremist faction is hijacking the party much like the extreme right TEA Party hijacked the RNC.  And they are certainly driving people away in the same fashion.  Centrists, anyone that doesn't agree with them, even attacking liberals for not being left enough.

That doesn't seem like rebuilding or unifying anything, it seems more like drawing a line in the sand and demanding conformity...which will push people away.

And I'm speaking from experience, before 2018 I was on the left...and they ate me when I went Hillary instead of protest voting.  Now that fraction has become the vocal minority of the left, and violently so.

They are pushing people away on a litmus test that changes every day.  Even Cortez faced a significant backlash when she tweeted a memorial to McCain.

Look at Michael Moore, "Capitalism, A Love Story" called out Nike for sweatshops, two months ago the progressive left had a fairly decent protest over the ongoing practice at their California headquarters...and not to mention that the progressive left has traditionally been against mega-corporations like Nike...and now any opposition to Nike gets you the "racist" label by the same people that were protesting them 2 months ago, or even did a documentary about their sweatshop years ago.

Ultimately, at the moment, the extremists are pushing more and more people away.  And we saw that reflected in the fly-over states that went from Blue under Obama to red when it came to Hillary.

[Quimby84]

That doesn't seem like rebuilding or unifying anything, it seems more like drawing a line in the sand and demanding conformity...which will push people away.

And I'm speaking from experience, before 2018 I was on the left...and they ate me when I went Hillary instead of protest voting.  Now that fraction has become the vocal minority of the left, and violently so.

I agree with you.
Forcing people to conform in an age where individual expression without repercussions is advocated for is going to leave many people confused and cause them to walk away from being a "die hard democrat"
The DNC needs to find or reestablish its identity.

I would not be surprised if there is a split within the party and you end up with a 3 party system again for a while, similar to when the Whigg party still existed.
Its an unlikely possibility, but a possibility non-the-less.

Protest voting has never made sense to me.
No candidate is ever going to be perfect, but villianising you for not voting Trump (or independent) because he was not running against Sanders is daft.
While Clinton's goals and focus were different from that of Sanders, some of her underlying values and beliefs would have been the same so voting for her after she won the DNC nomination over Sanders makes sense.

I'll admit that I dont know enough of the intricacies regarding US politics to make profound statements and engage with you (IrishGirl) with the same zeal and passion that you clearly have, but there are obvious issues that need to be addressed which is why the GOP will win again in 2020.

Yes there are some polarizing issues.
But there are issues that are also being used to polarize people that shouldn't be.

If anything, Trump being elected has shown people how delicate the political landscape in the US is.

[IrishGirl]

Yes there are some polarizing issues.
But there are issues that are also being used to polarize people that shouldn't be.

Well the issue is that the polarizing issues seem to be ever-changing and dependent on, well, whims.

And that means, as we have seen, that they are going to and have eaten their own. 

[psiberzerker]

The Tea Party hijacked the GoP in 2009.  Honestly, the Don wouldn't have gotten elected if it weren't for their racist rabble rousing, and there being a woman/socialist Jew to vilify in that election.

That bus has been hijacked, and is halfway to Cuba.  Fait Accompli, we're just living in the world created by that coup.  What happens when you set a historical Precident:  The people who don;t want the world to change band together to drag us back into the dark ages, or "Make America Great Again."

If by great, they mean taking rights back from women, blacks, and immigrants, again.  After all, that's what America was always about.

Oh yeah.  Back on Topic.  We held the door for a Woman in 2016, and like everything else, Goldfinger took that opportunity to slip in, and grab the white house by the pussy.  I shudder to think how low we will fall if they have to defeat her again.

[Quimby84]

Yes there are some polarizing issues.
But there are issues that are also being used to polarize people that shouldn't be.

Well the issue is that the polarizing issues seem to be ever-changing and dependent on, well, whims.

And that means, as we have seen, that they are going to and have eaten their own. 

So very true.
Sad.....but true.

[Lois]

It looks like Michael Avenatti is considering a run.  Going for him is that he's a fighter.

[Athos_131]

I'd hope the American people would have had enough of inexperienced people in statecraft after seeing the clown car being rolled out daily for the last couple of years.

#Resist

[joan1984]

Get your tickets early, while good seats are still available.

Bill and Hillary will do the "Perp Walk Tour" beginning November 18, 2018, and expectation is sold out events, with thousands left standing on line as the event fills, and the Fire Marshall turns away the remaining faithful Democrats, perhaps to watch from a Jumbo Screen outdoors near each venue.

Or not. Maybe Dem KB'ers can reserve a block of tix, get a "deal"...?

https://frontrowtickets.com/Hillary-Clinton-tickets.aspx

[psiberzerker]

I expect the turnout will be higher than dumpter's Inaguration.  "Record numbers!"  Yes, the lowest turnout since that reflecting pool was built.

[phtlc]

Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador

You voted for a racist shitbag.

Go Fuck Yourself.

#Resist

Did he say somewhere that he voted for Trump? He has all of two posts and has made no mention of supporting him.

[phtlc]

I didn't vote for either one. Because neither one, in my opinion could be trusted.

So in otherwords a racist shitbag running the country was not a concern for you.

Go Fuck Yourself.

#Resist.

Why is it wrong to not support either? Isn't it a bit of an ultimatum to basically equate not supporting Hillary with supporting Trump? If someone isn't happy with either candidate then why should they have to support one lest they be accused of implicitly supporting the other?

[wayne3218]

I won’t be supporting either of them.
And I will not be voting for anyone else in this election.

[Lois]

The only way the GOP can be victorious in the midterms is if the majority does not vote.

This is how we lose our country and cherished freedoms.  Not through our action, but through inaction and apathy.