Antifa Riot In Portland, Ore.

[Jed_]

Antifa has never killed anyone.

They don't have any political power, either.

The extreme left has never had any political power, while the crazies on the right own the the Right now and the Republican Party.

[psiberzerker]

The extreme left has never had any political power, while the crazies on the right own the the Right now and the Republican Party.

Right, but that was the new guy's fairly novel argument.  That the White Supremacists have no power.  That's why I showed the Concentration Camps.

[Jed_]

The extreme left has never had any political power, while the crazies on the right own the the Right now and the Republican Party.

Right, but that was the new guy's fairly novel argument.  That the White Supremacists have no power.  That's why I showed the Concentration Camps.

Very fine people I hear from the top.  That’s hardly no power.

[psiberzerker]

Very fine people I hear from the top. 

Right, those "Nice" nazis.

[Gunnerman19]

All three of you just proved exactly what I was getting at. Patriots...? By what definition? Keep bitching and crying and thinking that will change all the big scary things in life. What you seem to not understand is that many of the things you want we do too but we just disagree on how to go about it. We try to find common ground and you spit poison. Then we don’t allow you’re little chicken shit attacks do you call us all racist, fascist. You have all said if it’s not the way you believe then they are on the other side. That’s division. We can all disagree and still get along without “war”! Hey Jed, you made a comment about the AR’s, am I to assume you think they should be out lawed? If so how the hell will you fight that war? With your shot gun? So does that make your shot gun a weapon of war as well? You said you’d stand with Antifa...umm the only people actually scared of Antifa are other members of Antifa. For those on “your side” (as you 3 have like to put it) that don’t want guns and want them outlawed altogether...would they use guns too? Wouldn’t that go against their agenda? The rest of us know exactly how that war would go down. You don’t scare any one with your Antifa nor do you scare anyone with your “war”.

[psiberzerker]

Who mentioned patriots?

[Gunnerman19]

You did. Read back

[psiberzerker]

Yes, "Patriots" as in the enemies of our country claiming that, but Lois, and Jed weren't talking about Patriotism, and irregardless.  we were having a civil discussion here, until you devolved into ad hominem potty mouth.

That's not how you find "Common ground" either.  Take it from me, I have systematically alienated, and pissed off this entire board.  Another one before that.   Calm down.

Keep bitching and crying and thinking that will change all the big scary things in life. ...  We try to find common ground and you spit poison. Then we don’t allow you’re little chicken shit attacks do you call us all racist, fascist.

That last sentence, if you want to even call it that, was nigh incomprehensible, you were so far into full hissy fit.

Nobody called you racist.  Nobody called you, personally fascist.  You want to be called racist?  Find some stereotypically libtard board where I hear they actually pull that kinda shit.  (Though I've never actually been on one.)  This isn't the place.

Don't spit poision.  We weren't.

[psiberzerker]

No, I'm not a Patriot.  I'm a veteran, and an Anarchist.  I might reconsider patriotism some time after America stops letting Nazis march in the streets, and locking up children for being born here.

You talked about Terrorists, and Whataboutism.  So, what about the fact that we are averaging 1 domestic terror attack, per day in the US?  The Cartels aren't comitting them, and neither is Antifa.  Most of them consider themselves "Patriots."

[Gunnerman19]

Psiberzerker- hahaha you haven’t pissed this guy off. Hissy fit... haha I like it! Potty mouth, shit I can be much worse. Thought I was being pretty good. You’re right I sure can be an asshole . The hissy fit you are speaking of I guess can be taken that way. I find so many of the things you guys say and how you tie them together comical. You three had a whole page worth. Made me laugh somewhat so I commented on the BS.
Common ground is a place where we can agree and then move from there. You seem to have an issue with common ground and how that works. Doesn’t hurt my feelings but is kinda funny. Honestly I like these kinds of conversations. This site altogether is a good read.

[psiberzerker]

You seem to have an issue with common ground and how that works.

Nope, you just seem to have a problem finding Common Ground with Antifa.  Here's a hint:  They hate white supremacists.

I'm a veteran.  Are you?  I only asked you 3 times.  If you were looking for CG with me, you could start there.

[Gunnerman19]

Psiberzerker- so you’re saying certain Americans shouldnt have the freedom of speech...is that correct?

[psiberzerker]

Psiberzerker- so you’re saying certain Americans shouldnt have the freedom of speech...is that correct?

No.  Strawman.

I'm still not calling you a Racist, either.

[Gunnerman19]

Psiberzerker-I am an American. That’s not common ground enough? What would my service, yours or anybody else’s have to do with this? You can ask all you want. I’m not required to answer.

[Gunnerman19]

Will you mind clarifying what you mean by not letting Nazi march in the streets?

[psiberzerker]

Will you mind clarifying what you mean by not letting Nazi march in the streets?

Threatening citizens with weapons is not covered by Freedom of Speech.  Read the Amendment:

"...the right of the people peaceably to assemble..."

Your strawman says I want to silence certain people  I don't, but there are exceptions to Freedom of Speech.  Those are ACTIONs, not the People, which need to be stopped.

Nazis marching down the streets in Riot Gear is one of those actions.  If you can't shout it without riot gear, it's not Peacable Assembly.

Now, are you against people wearing bandanas during their protests?

[Gunnerman19]

I didn’t say you called me a racist. I have been called a racist because I proudly use my vote and that vote was for our current President. Also been called sexists, asshole, douche bag, fascist, horny, handy, deplorable and a whole lot of other shit too. What do I care what someone that connects me to racism because I voted for the guy they don’t like.

[psiberzerker]

I didn’t say you called me a racist.

No one here called you a racist.  Not yet, when we play that card?  Then you can play the victim of that libel, here.  Someone called you a racist, some time in the past, because bla bla bla has nothing to do with us, and there is nothing we can do to repair that horrible trauma for you.  Get over it.  That's another strawman, in absentia.

[Gunnerman19]

Hahaha damn you don’t get it. Call me what you want to. Straw man...cool. Victim...cool.
Let’s get back on topic here. So if Antifa was to break the law, should we assume that all of Antifa’s people should have to pay for that law that was broken?

[psiberzerker]

Call me what you want to. Strawman...cool.

I didn't call you a strawman, that's the kind of argument you're using.  If it starts with "So, what you're saying is," then it's a Strawman Argument.  Look it up, if you have to.

So if Antifa was to break the law, should we assume that all of Antifa’s people should have to pay for that law that was broken?

Whatifism.