Separating children from their parents

[Athos_131]

I did not intend to indicate you as a serious person, of course.

hahahahaha...  Get real!  

And, if you were to emulate a serious person, you may better be able to follow, and more accurately realize the future, since you seem to be so very concerned.

 Serious people have learned to take President Trump seriously, and not literally.

No, we don't.  He's a gaslighting, racist piece of shit.

Like you.

Go fuck yourself.

#Resist

Thanks for admitting you're a gaslighting, racist piece of shit.

#Resist

[Athos_131]

This was Trump's plan all along.  Him and his people are just garbage.

Kelly: DHS is considering separating undocumented children from their parents at the border

Updated 7:33 AM ET, Tue March 7, 2017

#Resist

[joan1984]

Link takes one to Fake News from CNN dated March, 2017. Just in case anyone follows links from this Member, and puts any credence into such spam.

This was Trump's plan all along.  Him and his people are just garbage.

Kelly: DHS is considering separating undocumented children from their parents at the border

Updated 7:33 AM ET, Tue March 7, 2017

#Resist

[ChrisHailey]

We now have concentration camps for children in our country.

History will judge us, harshly. We will be condemned.

[Athos_131]

Link takes one to Fake News from CNN dated March, 2017. Just in case anyone follows links from this Member, and puts any credence into such spam.

This was Trump's plan all along.  Him and his people are just garbage.

Kelly: DHS is considering separating undocumented children from their parents at the border

Updated 7:33 AM ET, Tue March 7, 2017

#Resist

A video of Trump's Chief of Staff is fake?

You really are crazy.

#Resist

[Athos_131]

We now have concentration camps for children in our country.

History will judge us, harshly. We will be condemned.

Amen, brother.

#Resist

[joan1984]

https://www.asstr.org/~Chris_Hailey/
This guy is who you quote?

Other than the $280 per hit paid talkers on MSNBC, including Nevertrumpers there, no one of credible notation is saying such nonsense. Athos and _____, haha. WTF is the person you are quoting? Has to be some google proof lefty.

The solution to not having anyone arrested is 'don't break the law'.

Very simple, and this is the message the US is sending to anyone who listens.
There is no secret. If you break the law by entering this Country illegally, you may be arrested. If you are stupid enough to do that, and bring your kids with you, your kids will be treated appropriately.

They are not US Citizens, you are incarcerated.

We will borrow and waste the necessary money to treat them with more dignity than did their criminal alien parents. We will keep them safe from the criminal element that they are supposedly escaping at home, unlike previous Administrations (like those you complained about here today, Lois).

We will keep them from living among other criminals in a US Adult Prison for criminals and those breaking our laws. They will be housed, clothed, fed, and educated with elementary essentials for living in a first world society, whether they wind up in this one or another place eventually. They will be ready to deport when their parents are adjudicated, and are ready to deport.

Meanwhile they may learn to communicate, keep themselves clean, healthy, civil even, until such time as their situation can run full circle, and they can be shipped back where they came from, or shipped someplace the law decides.

We now have concentration camps for children in our country.

History will judge us, harshly. We will be condemned.

Amen, brother.

#Resist

[Athos_131]

Do you have a verifable, credible source to refute the article?

Do the world a favor.

Don't breed.

#Resist

[ChrisHailey]

https://www.asstr.org/~Chris_Hailey/
This guy is who you quote?

Huh?

Look, joan1984, I don't know you from Adam, so I don't have any idea why you're talking trash about me. Yeah, I write erotica. Um, do you have any idea what website you're on?



I get it that you don't like being told that we're running concentration camps for children in the United States. I get it, honestly, I do. The idea horrifies me, and I am confident that somewhere deep in your heart, it horrifies you too. It ought to; it ought to horrify everyone.

As I said in a conversation with someone who referred to these places as daycare centers... "Can the kids leave whenever they want? No? Are the doors locked? Yes? Then it's a fucking prison, not a daycare center. Call it what it is, for Christ's sake. It's a prison."

[Lois]

Link takes one to Fake News from CNN dated March, 2017. Just in case anyone follows links from this Member, and puts any credence into such spam.

This was Trump's plan all along.  Him and his people are just garbage.

Kelly: DHS is considering separating undocumented children from their parents at the border

Updated 7:33 AM ET, Tue March 7, 2017

#Resist

Sorry, but CNN is a mostly credible source, and they make retractions when they get a story wrong.  CNN certainly ranks much higher than Fox News or BreitBart.

[Athos_131]

What’s Really Happening When Asylum-Seeking Families Are Separated?

For all asylum seekers, you are going to be put in jail, in a detention center, and you’re going to have your children taken away from you. That’s the policy.

What we know from the shelters and working with people is that, yes, there are kids that are very young, that are breastfeeding babies and under three in the shelters, separated from their parents.

TM: So what is the process for separation?

AC: There is no one process. Judging from the mothers and fathers I’ve spoken to and those my staff has spoken to, there are several different processes. Sometimes they will tell the parent, “We’re taking your child away.” And when the parent asks, “When will we get them back?” they say, “We can’t tell you that.” Sometimes the officers will say, “because you’re going to be prosecuted” or “because you’re not welcome in this country,” or “because we’re separating them,” without giving them a clear justification. In other cases, we see no communication that the parent knows that their child is to be taken away. Instead, the officers say, “I’m going to take your child to get bathed.” That’s one we see again and again. “Your child needs to come with me for a bath.” The child goes off, and in a half an hour, twenty minutes, the parent inquires, “Where is my five-year-old?” “Where’s my seven-year-old?” “This is a long bath.” And they say, “You won’t be seeing your child again.” Sometimes mothers—I was talking to one mother, and she said, “Don’t take my child away,” and the child started screaming and vomiting and crying hysterically, and she asked the officers, “Can I at least have five minutes to console her?” They said no. In another case, the father said, “Can I comfort my child? Can I hold him for a few minutes?” The officer said, “You must let them go, and if you don’t let them go, I will write you up for an altercation, which will mean that you are the one that had the additional charges charged against you.” So, threats. So the father just let the child go. So it’s a lot of variations. But sometimes deceit and sometimes direct, just “I’m taking your child away.” Parents are not getting any information on what their rights are to communicate to get their child before they are deported, what reunification may look like. We spoke to nine parents on this Monday, which was the 11th, and these were adults in detention centers outside of Houston. They had been separated from their child between May 23 and May 25, and as of June 11, not one of them had been able to talk to their child or knew a phone number that functioned from the detention center director. None of them had direct information from immigration on where their child was located. The one number they were given by some government official from the Department of Homeland Security was a 1-800 number. But from the phones inside the detention center, they can’t make those calls. We know there are more parents who are being deported without their child, without any process or information on how to get their child back.

TM: And if the child is, say, five years old . . .?

AC: The child is going through deportation proceedings, so the likelihood that that child is going to be deported is pretty high.

TM: How do they know where to deport the child to, or who the parents are?

AC: How does that child navigate their deportation case without their parent around?

TM: Because a five-year-old doesn’t necessarily know his parents’ information.

AC: In the shelters, they can’t even find the parents because the kids are just crying inconsolably. They often don’t know the full legal name of their parents or their date of birth. They’re not in a position to share a trauma story like what caused the migration. These kids and parents had no idea. None of the parents I talked to were expecting to be separated as they faced the process of asking for asylum.

#Resist

[joan1984]

  Spread the word, Texas Monthly, the US is an awful place to enter illegally.

Obey the law is rule one. Keep working at your current job.

Stay where you are, or go someplace else, but please do not come here unless you do it the proper way. Apply at your local United States Embassy, wait your turn, begin taking ESL languages at night school where you current reside.

Venezuela has job openings. Oil production jobs. Go for it.

Lower your expectations.

[Athos_131]

  Spread the word, Texas Monthly, the US is an awful place to enter illegally.

Obey the law is rule one. Keep working at your current job.

Stay where you are, or go someplace else, but please do not come here unless you do it the proper way. Apply at your local United States Embassy, wait your turn, begin taking ESL languages at night school where you current reside.

Venezuela has job openings. Oil production jobs. Go for it.

Lower your expectations.

Fuck off.

#Resist

[Athos_131]

Taking Children from Their Parents Is a Form of State Terror

Hostage-taking is an instrument of terror. Capturing family members, especially children, is a tried-and-true instrument of totalitarian terror. Memoirs of Stalinist terror are full of stories of strong men and women disintegrating when their loved ones are threatened: this is the moment when a person will confess to anything. The single most searing literary document of Stalinist terror is “Requiem,” a cycle of poems written by Anna Akhmatova while her son, Lev Gumilev, was in prison. But, in the official Soviet imagination, it was the Nazis who tortured adults by torturing children. In “Seventeen Moments of Spring,” a fantastically popular miniseries about a Soviet spy in Nazi Germany, a German officer carries a newborn out into the cold of winter in an effort to compel a confession out of his mother, who is forced to listen to her baby cry.

Good to know the racist yellow poster supports terrorism.  Next up, joan1984 joins Al-Qaeda.

#Resist

[Athos_131]

Democrats helped put he existing law into place,

Do you get any facts right?

#Resist

[Athos_131]

Democrats helped put he existing law into place,

A Texas Prosecutor On Immigrant Family Separations

Attorney General Jeff Sessions says that everyone apprehended at the border will be prosecuted and their children taken away. In the Southern District of Texas, along the Rio Grande, the U.S. attorney is Ryan Patrick, who says prosecutions are up.

PATRICK: Well, it is a policy choice by the president and by the attorney general.

#Resist

[Katiebee]

Wait, shouldn’t that be persecutions?

[Athos_131]

Wait, shouldn’t that be persecutions?

Why do you think he keeps calling one of his other problems a witch hunt?

He's just getting people ready so there's no shock when he starts drowning his enemies.

#Resist

[_priapism]

He's just getting people ready so there's no shock when he starts drowning his enemies.

Exactly.

[Lois]

He is stealing children.  Already some parents have been released and they have not gotten their children back.

These people are seeking asylum and must cross the border at a border checkpoint and present themselves to the authorities.  This is what they are doing.  Then their children are taken and they are locked up pending a hearing on their asylum request.

This process is the only process they have to apply for asylum, and yet the Trump regime has decided to label these people "illegals".

There was once a place these applications could be processed south of the border, but the Trump regime closed the office.

This is a crisis of the Trump regimes own making.