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Reply #20 on: June 16, 2018, 04:08:44 PM
A quick Google: Marion, OH, immigration traffickers, was able to yield much more about the children put to work as 'egg pickers'. This link kind of sums it all up: https://www.christianpost.com/news/obama-admin-gave-immigrant-children-to-human-traffickers-senate-report-finds-156335/

Yes Athos, Trump is lying once again.  And Jeff Sessions is using his twisted concept of Christianity as justification.  Sorry Jeff, but Christianity is first and foremost about forgiveness, not about twisting the law to your satisfaction. NEVER EVER has the committing of a misdemeanor offence been a justification for separating families.  And it gets worse:

U.S. Placed Immigrant Children With Traffickers, Report Says

WASHINGTON — The Department of Health and Human Services placed more than a dozen immigrant children in the custody of human traffickers after it failed to conduct background checks of caregivers, according to a Senate report released on Thursday.

Examining how the federal agency processes minors who arrive at the border without a guardian, lawmakers said they found that it had not followed basic practices of child welfare agencies, like making home visits.

The Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations opened its inquiry after law enforcement officials uncovered a human trafficking ring in Marion, Ohio, last year. At least six children were lured to the United States from Guatemala with the promise of a better life, then were made to work on egg farms. The children, as young as 14, had been in federal custody before being entrusted to the traffickers.

“It is intolerable that human trafficking — modern-day slavery — could occur in our own backyard,” said Senator Rob Portman, Republican of Ohio and the chairman of the subcommittee. “But what makes the Marion cases even more alarming is that a U.S. government agency was responsible for delivering some of the victims into the hands of their abusers.”

In addition to the Marion cases, the investigation found evidence that 13 other children had been trafficked after officials handed them over to adults who were supposed to care for them during their immigration proceedings. An additional 15 cases exhibited some signs of trafficking.

The report also said that it was unclear how many of the approximately 90,000 children the agency had placed in the past two years fell prey to traffickers, including sex traffickers, because it does not keep track of such cases.

“Whatever your views on immigration policy, everyone can agree that the administration has a responsibility to ensure the safety of the migrant kids that have entered government custody until their immigration court date,” Mr. Portman said.

In the fall of 2013, thousands of unaccompanied children began showing up at the southern border. Most risked abuse by traffickers and detention by law enforcement to escape dire problems like gang violence and poverty in Central America.

As detention centers struggled to keep up with the influx, the Department of Health and Human Services began placing children in the custody of sponsors who could help them while their immigration cases were reviewed. Many children who did not have relatives in the United States were placed in a system resembling foster care.

But officials at times did not examine whether an adult who claimed to be a relative actually was, relying on the word of parents, who, in some cases, went along with the traffickers to pay off smuggling debts.

Responding to the report, the Department of Health and Human Services said it had taken measures to strengthen its system, collecting information to subject potential sponsors and additional caregivers in a household to criminal background checks.

Mark Greenberg, the agency’s acting assistant secretary of the Administration for Children and Families, said it had bolstered other screening procedures and increased resources for minors.

“We are mindful of our responsibilities to these children and are continually looking for ways to strengthen our safeguards,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/29/us/politics/us-placed-immigrant-children-with-traffickers-report-says.html

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Reply #21 on: June 16, 2018, 05:17:04 PM
If they come here illegally no money should be spent to detain them feed them or send them back. The bastards, men women and children should be shot immediatly



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Reply #22 on: June 16, 2018, 06:54:47 PM
If they come here illegally no money should be spent to detain them feed them or send them back. The bastards, men women and children should be shot immediatly
Well, so much for due process.

Might as well get rid of the rest of that liberal rag while you’re at it.

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Reply #23 on: June 16, 2018, 07:46:09 PM
If they come here illegally no money should be spent to detain them feed them or send them back. The bastards, men women and children should be shot immediatly

Illegal entry into the United States is a misdemeanor. How many misdemeanor traffic violations have you had?  Should we shoot you for breaking the law, too?



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Reply #24 on: June 16, 2018, 07:51:37 PM
@ Joan

You miss the point.  The system is being stretched beyond our ability to care for these children.  Some will fall in the hands of traffickers of all stripes. It is best and more humane to keep children with their parents.

This separating children from parents is also a violation of human rights and international law.  It is a stain upon our country.



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Reply #25 on: June 16, 2018, 09:17:03 PM


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Reply #26 on: June 16, 2018, 09:20:37 PM

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Reply #27 on: June 16, 2018, 09:21:21 PM
If they come here illegally no money should be spent to detain them feed them or send them back. The bastards, men women and children should be shot immediatly

Go fuck yourself.

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Reply #28 on: June 16, 2018, 09:25:53 PM

This separating children from parents is also a violation of human rights and international law.  It is a stain upon our country.


Time to bring up charges at The Hague.



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Reply #29 on: June 16, 2018, 09:32:02 PM


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Reply #30 on: June 16, 2018, 11:17:28 PM
Solution: Change The Law.

@ Joan

You miss the point.  The system is being stretched beyond our ability to care for these children.  Some will fall in the hands of traffickers of all stripes. It is best and more humane to keep children with their parents.

This separating children from parents is also a violation of human rights and international law.  It is a stain upon our country.

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Reply #31 on: June 16, 2018, 11:40:07 PM
Solution: Change The Law.

@ Joan

You miss the point.  The system is being stretched beyond our ability to care for these children.  Some will fall in the hands of traffickers of all stripes. It is best and more humane to keep children with their parents.

This separating children from parents is also a violation of human rights and international law.  It is a stain upon our country.

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/8/7/8757edf1-4c26-44ad-be6d-3e62b4875d59/8E980D047182BB87CF73EEAD252B3F78.keeping-families-together-act.pdf



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Reply #32 on: June 16, 2018, 11:57:04 PM
Good to hear that Democrats agree with President Trump that the laws on the books today for detention of the minor children of incarcerated criminal aliens.

Since we all agree that these children should not be sent to adult prisons and held under such conditions, it is about time for a bipartisan Congress to pass the necessary comprehensive legislation allowing removal of the children until such time as their parents are deported, or gain legal status upon release, and demonstrate ability to care properly for such children.

Parents may volunteer for deportation and expedited removal from the U.S., in order to reunite their families and return to their home Countries which is by far the simplest solution, beyond the criminal alien not illegally entering the US to begin with, and not bringing minors or others on such illegal adventures.


Solution: Change The Law.

@ Joan

You miss the point.  The system is being stretched beyond our ability to care for these children.  Some will fall in the hands of traffickers of all stripes. It is best and more humane to keep children with their parents.

This separating children from parents is also a violation of human rights and international law.  It is a stain upon our country.

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/8/7/8757edf1-4c26-44ad-be6d-3e62b4875d59/8E980D047182BB87CF73EEAD252B3F78.keeping-families-together-act.pdf

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Reply #33 on: June 17, 2018, 12:00:31 AM
What is that noise?



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Reply #34 on: June 17, 2018, 12:11:42 AM
Good to hear that Democrats agree with President Trump that the laws on the books today for detention of the minor children of incarcerated criminal aliens.

That is not what Trump said at all.  Stop lying, shithead.



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Reply #35 on: June 17, 2018, 01:10:18 AM
  Serious people have learned to take President Trump seriously, and not literally. Anyone paying at attention knows he does not like the law as it is today, which does not provide adequately for innocent minor illegal aliens in a suitable manner.

  We all agree that lawbreakers, adults who criminally break into our borders, must be detained, incarcerated while their adjudication is pending, as they have demonstrated as lawbreakers that they cannot be 'trusted' or relied upon to be released, and expected to willingly return for adjudication in a timely manner.

  Unlawful entry to the United States is a crime. Incarceration of children in an adult prison is not a suitable situation, and family prison is not available at this time, for non-citizen criminal aliens. Democrats helped put he existing law into place, and if the existing law is to be enforced as written, and it is, the issue remains as to good treatment of illegal alien minors while their parents remain incarcerated.

  The good news is that the children are being cared for, and instructed as to essentials in hygiene, tooth brushing, use of flush toilets, and other skills which will bode well for their future, no matter where they wind up. Groups are taken on Museum tours, and receive at least six hours of education daily. ESL is an essential for any migrant, and they are receiving a great head start currently.

  The tweet you posted is one where the President highlights some of the needed components of new legislation to find some relief of this situation, soon rather than 'down the road' as has been the case with Democrat delays of near all legislation to date in the current Congress.

  Slow walking, resisting getting much done when it comes to necessary laws, seems the norm at the moment, and need not be in this case.

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Reply #36 on: June 17, 2018, 01:14:06 AM
 Serious people have learned to take President Trump seriously, and not literally.

No, we don't.  He's a gaslighting, racist piece of shit.

Like you.

Go fuck yourself.

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Reply #37 on: June 17, 2018, 01:15:30 AM
No, Joan, serious people have learned that you can’t trust ANYTHING that Trump says.

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Reply #38 on: June 17, 2018, 01:22:50 AM
8 U.S. Code § 1158 - Asylum



These are not criminals.

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Reply #39 on: June 17, 2018, 01:23:48 AM
I did not intend to indicate you as a serious person, of course.

hahahahaha... :emot_wave2:  Get real! 

And, if you were to emulate a serious person, you may better be able to follow, and more accurately realize the future, since you seem to be so very concerned.

 Serious people have learned to take President Trump seriously, and not literally.

No, we don't.  He's a gaslighting, racist piece of shit.

Like you.

Go fuck yourself.

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