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Reply #180 on: January 25, 2019, 11:38:41 PM
2018:

    Total Number of Incidents.........56,999
    Number of Deaths...................14,646
    Number of Injuries...................28,172
    Number of Children (age 0-11)
    Killed or Injured...........................666
    Number of Teens (age 12-17)
    Killed or Injured.........................2,833
    Mass Shooting.............................340
    Officer Involved Incident
    Officer Shot or Killed.....................291
    Officer Involved Incident
    Subject-Suspect Shot or Killed......2,142
    Home Invasion...........................2,075
    Defensive Use............................1,792
    Unintentional Shooting.................1,612

Gun violence  and crime incidents are collected/validated from 2,500 sources daily – incidents and their source data are found at the gunviolencearchive.org website.

22,000 Annual Suicides not included on Daily Summary Ledger

Numbers on this table reflect a subset of all information collected and will not add to 100% of incidents.

www.gunviolencearchive.org  www.facebook.com/gunviolencearchive

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Reply #181 on: January 26, 2019, 01:10:03 AM
   Number of Teens (age 12-17)
   Killed or Injured.........................2,833

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    Defensive Use............................1,792
    Unintentional Shooting.................1,612

There's some pretty damning numbers.  (Pun intended.)  Add in the 666 children under age 12, and that's 3,500 (Or close efuckinuff) minors killed or injured.  So 1,800 "Good guys" can "Defend themselves."

What was the racial demographics on Subject-Suspect shot, or killed?



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Reply #182 on: January 26, 2019, 05:53:18 PM
I don't have that data, sorry.



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Reply #183 on: January 26, 2019, 06:13:30 PM
I don't have that data, sorry.

Of course not, the FBI doesn't collect them.  However, we can extrapolate from the data we do have.  Namely, pictures, and video from the Smart-phone age.  

We can't assume that white men don't report false allegations, right?

We can't assume that African Americans have more access to camera phones, and Social Media.

We know that black men aren't the Majority.

So, when the majority of unarmed men shot by police from independent sources (I.E. #BlackLivesMatter) are African Americans, the only thing we need to disprove them are the racial, and economic Majority to produce victims that are man enough to report false allegations.

Instead, we just get the same story:  "He fit the description," and "I feared for my life."  Our law enforcement is terrified by unarmed black men, and fire out of Fear.  I'm not making this up, it's the official story.

You want the demographics on Mass Shootings?  Here's a hint: It's not Illegal Aliens.  Or, how about we look at the statistics on Gun Owners.  Let me see, I'm sure the FBI has a study on them around here somewhere...
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Reply #184 on: January 26, 2019, 06:34:27 PM
Also, I love the PC euphemism "Police involved."  

Of course the police were Involved, if they weren't, then we wouldn't have statistics on the shooting!  You would think that the "Incidents" we have statistics on where Police were involved would be right around 100%.  Since police records is where we get the statistics from in the first place.  If you show up at the hospital with a gunshot wound, the police are automatically involved, to make sure it was an accidental shooting, or attemptedd suicide, regardless of the story.  Same goes for bodies with gunshot wounds when they arrive in the morgue.

Unless, of course, we're only talking about the times where a police officer shot somebody.  The statistics on the number of "Suspects" they shot are meaningless when "He fit the description" is an affirmative defense for murdering unarmed men.

So, since we don't have statistics on Racial Bias, here's a few images to illustrate it:



This is Eric Parker, legal gun owner, aiming a rifle at a crowd of protesters.

Here's a picture of him with his family, after he was released from jail.  For occupying federal land, menacing unarmed protesters, and opening fire on federal agents, less than 4 months later.

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http://thebigsmoke.com/wp-content/uploads/JasonArment_025_Bundy-Sniper-IV_IMAGE-640x360.jpg

We can only assume that he didn't fit the description, and they didn't fear for their lives.
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Reply #185 on: February 07, 2019, 12:33:30 AM

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Reply #186 on: February 08, 2019, 01:52:15 AM
My son survived one mass shooting. He didn’t survive the second.

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Marc Orfanos is a resident of Thousand Oaks, Calif., and member of the Everytown Survivor Network.

Imagine being called into a room after waiting 10 excruciating hours to learn if your child is alive or dead. You find yourself face to face with a somber police officer. The words “I am sorry, your son did not make it” are barely comprehensible as the room swirls around you. You gasp for air as you feel your heart being ripped out of your chest. Your life, along with the lives of your family, friends and community, is changed in that instant. This is the reality of gun violence in America. This was our reality three months ago today.

Telemachus “Tel” Orfanos was my oldest son. There was nothing I wouldn’t do for him, and there is nothing in this world more important to me than my children. He lived his life to help others, and that is he how he died. He was only 27 years old.

Tel survived the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history on Oct. 1, 2017, in Las Vegas. He honorably served our country in the Navy, but never felt the looming presence of death more than at the Route 91 Harvest festival, where 58 people were killed and more than 850 wounded. When he came home, we hugged and cried — we felt so lucky for him to be alive.

None of us ever expected Tel would be at the scene of a second mass shooting just one year later. On Nov. 7, 2018, Tel was at the Borderline Bar & Grill in our hometown of Thousand Oaks, Calif., when someone opened fire. Tel rushed a group of friends out of the bar before returning to try to help more. He was shot multiple times and killed along with 11 others. I will never again be able to hug him, cry with him or be thankful he came home.

Mass shootings have become so routine and commonplace that my son was present at two.

No one among us should be so naive to think we are exempt from gun violence. If you take away one thing from our experience, it’s that gun violence can happen anywhere, anytime, to anyone — including to someone you love.

We are far from alone in our grief. The U.S. gun death rate is 10 times higher than that of other high-income countries. At this point in the calendar, our nation has already experienced more gun deaths than our peer nations will see in the entire year. What kind of country allows this level of violence to be a normal occurrence?

We know the legislative changes needed to address this epidemic; what we must find now is the political will to make them happen. That’s why today I’m joining countless others in sharing my story as part of Gun Violence Survivors Week. Only by keeping the spotlight on how gun violence is constantly affecting the lives of Americans across the country may we finally make meaningful reform happen.

Since Tel’s death, my only goal is to get people to stop and think — and commit to doing something to end this horrific epidemic of gun violence. I don’t want any other parent to ever experience the kind of inconceivable grief that we are feeling, yet the fact is tens of thousands of parents, siblings, children, friends and colleagues feel this anguish every year. It is time for this to stop.

It’s up to all of us to demand change from our lawmakers and to vote them out if they refuse to act. It will take courage and character to do that. I hope we are all up to the task. Do it for your children. It’s too late for my son but hopefully not too late for yours.

Every morning when I wake up, I think for a moment that I had a bad dream. Yet as I open my eyes, the reality rapidly hits me that I am living in a nightmare from which I will never wake. We all must open our eyes to the reality that millions of Americans are experiencing this exact same nightmare every single day. I want this nightmare to stop. I want to wake up. All I want is to hug my beautiful son, but I can’t.

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Reply #187 on: February 12, 2019, 11:54:03 PM

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Reply #188 on: February 13, 2019, 03:02:18 AM
 
I just had my hardest cry in the last two months.

Dear Alyssa.  A Parkland mom's Valentine's day letter to her daughter.

It's something I likely wouldn't have read had you not posted it Athos.  So thank you for that.

Hearing this mom's story, the love she has for her daughter, and the things she'll miss.  My heart is hurting so badly for Lori Alhadeff right now.  

Parkland seems like it just happened.  I can't believe it's been a year already.

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Reply #189 on: February 15, 2019, 12:39:02 AM

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Reply #190 on: February 15, 2019, 01:11:47 AM

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Reply #191 on: February 16, 2019, 01:09:40 AM
Aurora shooting updates: 6 dead, including shooter, and 5 officers wounded in attack at Illinois manufacturing firm

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Reply #192 on: February 17, 2019, 04:17:30 PM
So much for unenforced gun laws.  This shooter filled out an application for a FOID car and was approved. He then purchased the pistol with the green laser light legitimately but then the Illinois State Police found that he had a felony conviction in Mississippi that voided his FOID card. They then sent a letter to him, as protocol dictated, asking him to turn in any firearms that he owns, since his FOID was pulled.

Someone who has lied on his application to obtain a FOID card, I doubt, will voluntarily turn in his weapons just because the State Police sent him a letter asking him to.

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Reply #193 on: February 17, 2019, 05:17:02 PM
He then purchased the pistol with the green laser light legitimately

I'm surprised that it wasn't a red one.  Yeah, technically green lazers are "More Powerful" (It's complicated) but Tacticool lights, and lazer pointers are more for cool factor, and intimidation than actual useful purpose.  We've all seen Predator, and all the action movies since where they used a lazer pointer to threaten somebody, or signal to the audience where the bullet is going to go?

That's all it is, an accessory.  It doesn't make the gun any deadlier, but to a certain mindset (Including proto-spree killers) it doesn't matter.  A black Rifle doesn't make you a "Sniper," either.  That doesn't keep them from selling like hotcakes, because for the most part, being a "Sniper" is a fantasy from action movies.

Just like being a Hero.  A "Real American Hero" uses a gun.  That's what we learned growing up.  Before that, it was cops, firemen, train engineers, pilots...  Pretty much ever since the 80s, the only heroic things that a boy can think of is the Goodguy with a Gun, because that's all they're exposed to any more.



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Reply #194 on: February 17, 2019, 05:34:05 PM
  I read this morning that this Aurora, IL murder was in a Gun Free Zone.
One of many 'Gun Free Zone' murders, so sorry to say. Am sure this will be addressed by the powers that be, in Illinois.

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Reply #195 on: February 17, 2019, 05:52:24 PM
One of many 'Gun Free Zone' murders, so sorry to say. Am sure this will be addressed by the powers that be, in Illinois.

How, exactly?  By getting rid of "Gun free zones" like courthouses?  You do realize that a lot of those GFZs are to protect the "Powers that be" from assassins, with guns.  JFK was shot in a "Gun Free Zone," in Dallas.  So was Bobby, so was Lenon, and so was Dr. King.  So was Brady, remember him?

After all, it's not like we have to worry about government Corruption in Illinois, or anything, right?  Am sure we can trust "The Powers that be" to do the right thing there.   :facepalm:
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Reply #196 on: February 18, 2019, 04:10:59 AM




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Reply #197 on: February 21, 2019, 07:43:36 AM
So much for unenforced gun laws.  This shooter filled out an application for a FOID car and was approved. He then purchased the pistol with the green laser light legitimately but then the Illinois State Police found that he had a felony conviction in Mississippi that voided his FOID card. They then sent a letter to him, as protocol dictated, asking him to turn in any firearms that he owns, since his FOID was pulled.

Someone who has lied on his application to obtain a FOID card, I doubt, will voluntarily turn in his weapons just because the State Police sent him a letter asking him to.

Just another reason the USA should adopt a waiting perioed/background check period for all guns, like Califronia has.



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Reply #198 on: February 21, 2019, 08:50:07 AM
So much for unenforced gun laws.  This shooter filled out an application for a FOID car and was approved. He then purchased the pistol with the green laser light legitimately but then the Illinois State Police found that he had a felony conviction in Mississippi that voided his FOID card. They then sent a letter to him, as protocol dictated, asking him to turn in any firearms that he owns, since his FOID was pulled.

Someone who has lied on his application to obtain a FOID card, I doubt, will voluntarily turn in his weapons just because the State Police sent him a letter asking him to.

Just another reason the USA should adopt a waiting perioed/background check period for all guns, like Califronia has.

And in my state.  To purchase any gun requires a background check.  For my last handgun purchases, I had to take a safety course (an NRA one ironically) and have the state police fingerprint me.



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Reply #199 on: February 21, 2019, 01:35:48 PM
Try buying a gun in New Jersey.....
You have "no idea" what difficult is until you do.

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