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[_priapism]

“Advice for my boys” is about gentlemanly behavior and saviore faire.  It’s not about truck mudding and cutting your burger in half.  Don’t fold my thread into this one.

First of all, your thread?  The thread you didn't even contribute to until 12 pages, and 3 YEARS after it was going just fine without you, that thread?  Being the last one to post in it doesn't make this my thread, man.

Secondly, you know what a man does standing up, a woman does sitting down, and a dog on 3 legs?

Shake hands.  Chivalry is endangered, and society as a whole will be better when  it's finally extinct.  Having 1 different sets of rules for men, and women?

The word for that is Sexism.

Are we going to have to move every thread in this forum to 1408?  I can’t be sexist with you, because frankly your sex is a mystery to everyone here, including yourself.  Your porn sucks, your pontifications are unbearable, and you’re not an expert on anything, other than playing the role of a victim.  You are apparently a thrice convicted criminal, with some gender issues.  Fuck.  No wonder they ran you out of RU.

Peace out.

[Levorotatory]

I don't get how cutting a burger in half makes it easier to eat.  You aren't reducing the height (and thus the required amount of jaw opening), but you are increasing the edge area for the toppings to be squeezed out of while you are eating it.  I wouldn't say it "makes you look like a pussy", but it is kind of weird. 

I suppose I have been known to do equally weird things though, like disassembling burgers to transfer the overabundance of lettuce to my salad, or to remove toppings that I don't like but didn't say anything about when ordering (pickles and mustard are the usual suspects there).

[Jed_]

“Advice for my boys” is about gentlemanly behavior and saviore faire.  It’s not about truck mudding and cutting your burger in half.  Don’t fold my thread into this one.

First of all, your thread?  The thread you didn't even contribute to until 12 pages, and 3 YEARS after it was going just fine without you, that thread?  Being the last one to post in it doesn't make this my thread, man.

Secondly, you know what a man does standing up, a woman does sitting down, and a dog on 3 legs?

Shake hands.  Chivalry is endangered, and society as a whole will be better when  it's finally extinct.  Having 1 different sets of rules for men, and women?

The word for that is Sexism.

Are we going to have to move every thread in this forum to 1408?  I can’t be sexist with you, because frankly your sex is a mystery to everyone here, including yourself.  Your porn sucks, your pontifications are unbearable, and you’re not an expert on anything, other than playing the role of a victim.  You are apparently a thrice convicted criminal, with some gender issues.  Fuck.  No wonder they ran you out of RU.

Peace out.

[IdleBoast]

Are we going to have to move every thread in this forum to 1408?

A good point....

I can’t be sexist with you, because frankly your sex is a mystery to everyone here, including yourself.  Your porn sucks, your pontifications are unbearable, and you’re not an expert on anything, other than playing the role of a victim.  You are apparently a thrice convicted criminal, with some gender issues.  Fuck.  No wonder they ran you out of RU.

... ruined.

[MintJulie]

Wow.   15 responses about cutting a burger in half.

Lev, I cut all my sandwiches in half.   At Subway, I like to get the 6 inches...I ask them to cut it down to 3 small pieces because it's just easier to eat.  Same with a bagel...cut in half and I can put the cut end in my mouth, WITHOUT having to stretch my lips around.   I like to try to be delicate with my food and not look like a cow shoving something in its mouth.   Size and maneuverability, as Katie worded it best.

Like Barb, I'm baffled by the way many men think, and how they feel the need to do things a certain way all in the spirit of masculinity.

Many guys I dated would open the car door for me when it was just us.  With their friends around, nope.  They would hold hands, but not with their friends around.  Out to a restaurant or bar with just me, they'd have a sweet sound to their voice, be polite, and seem intelligent.  With their boys there I could expect profanity and dumbed down talk, "fucking Lions suck ass..." or "I flipped off an asshole driving to work today" or "my fucking car has to get a brake job".  Or one of the manliest things to do... nudging a friend as a cute girl walks by and they  both look her up and down from head to toe, which usually ends with the two exchanging shit- eating grins and nodding to each other in their unspoken language.  If any of my bf's did that in my presence, I can assure you I shut that shit down, they only did it that one time in my presence.

There are a million man rules, I'm sure.  I think being ridiculed for cutting a burger in half might be among the dumbest things I've ever heard.

[MissBarbara]

Wow.   15 responses about cutting a burger in half.

. . .

Like Barb, I'm baffled by the way many men think, and how they feel the need to do things a certain way all in the spirit of masculinity.

. . .

There are a million man rules, I'm sure.  I think being ridiculed for cutting a burger in half might be among the dumbest things I've ever heard.

What I find most curious about this sidetrack discussion is that it is men that brought this up, and who indicated that this is a thing.

I'm well aware of the many things that men do to express, as Katie wonderfully put it, their "machoness." And I'm also aware of the unwritten rules and fierce social pressure for men to conform to these "dictates of machoness."

But cutting a hamburger in half? Really?

To sidetrack this sidetrack, I'm wracking my brain to come up with even one unwritten rule among women regarding the obligation to express "femininity." It's true that women do many things regarding their looks and appearances, thing that many men find utterly ridiculous. And it's also true that some women "conform" in they way they dress and make themselves appear.

But this has nothing to due with rigid conformity to strict rules defining "girlyness."




 

[psiberzerker]

I can’t be sexist with you, because frankly your sex is a mystery to everyone here, including yourself.

Oh, right.  I forgot, some schmo on the internet doesn't understand a complete stranger, so he's going to tell me, my own gender is a mystery to me.  I don't understand myself?  Of course, that's not sexist at all.  I bow to your infinite wisdom, man.

Your porn sucks, your pontifications are unbearable, and you’re not an expert on anything, other than playing the role of a victim.

Then don't read it.  Any of it.  I clearly mark everything with Trigger Warnings, so people like you can avoid seeing anything outside of you comfortable little worldview.  Go back to your safe place, snowflake, where people being ourselves don't huwt yow fwagow widdow fewwings.  

You are apparently a thrice convicted criminal, with some gender issues.  Fuck.  No wonder they ran you out of RU.

Thank you for trying to contribute something, instead of just quietly jacking off in your man cave to other people's hard work.  Apparently you can find something you do like, here.  I suggest you go back to that, and keep your nose out of my business.  I have work to do, and I've been told by professionals that I'm just confused.

Go fuck yourself, because you obviously can't pay anyone else to do it for you, or come up with a sexy fantasy of your own.  Even Merv's Hot Boss's Wife was hijacked, so you can call me "dear" and tell me all about your alleged sexual experiences with Baylor Cheerleaders.  You don't even have porn to suck.

[psiberzerker]

I have a question:  What's with men telling women ("Real" women, not transgender) about fashion, and all things being female, as if women don't understand what dressing like a slut means?

[MintJulie]

Let's all take another look at the rules.  Specifically rule # 1 and rule # 5

1.  Threatening or intimidating behaviour is not tolerated.

5.  Please, no personal insults, except in Room 1408.

In other words, knock this shit off!

[Jed_]

Meanwhile, back to the important stuff.  I’ve never seen a woman or girl cut a burger in half either, so how is it feminine?

Oh and Jules, I hold my girlfriend’s hand around my friends with equal frequency to when we’re alone.  But I do know some (insecure) guys won’t.  But then we’re still at this stage where we’re thrilled to have someone and can’t keep our hands off each other.  It’s probably sickening to watch us, but I don’t give a shit. . . . LOL

[MissBarbara]

“Advice for my boys” is about gentlemanly behavior and saviore faire.  It’s not about truck mudding and cutting your burger in half.  Don’t fold my thread into this one.

First of all, your thread?  The thread you didn't even contribute to until 12 pages, and 3 YEARS after it was going just fine without you, that thread?  Being the last one to post in it doesn't make this my thread, man.

Secondly, you know what a man does standing up, a woman does sitting down, and a dog on 3 legs?

Shake hands.  Chivalry is endangered, and society as a whole will be better when  it's finally extinct.  Having 1 different sets of rules for men, and women?

The word for that is Sexism.

You're new here, and if you were a little more versed in KB and it's history, you'd know that the user currently known as "Mervinh2o" started that thread and was the primary contributor to the thread.

You're correct: No one "owns" threads, neither threads that they started nor threads that they heavily contribute to. But "Mervinh2o" is perfectly correct in referring to is as "my thread." He's neither claiming ownership nor dictating what may or may not be posted there.

On top of that, you clearly do not understand the point of that thread. It's beauty is that it's free from politics and polemics, and, in it's way, it is somewhat "old fashioned." But, if I me be so bold, it has one over-arching theme: Respect, and especially, respect for women.

While your comments indicate that you believe respect is something you hope will become extinct, I strongly suspect that that is not the case.

[psiberzerker]

You're new here, and if you were a little more versed in KB and it's history, you'd know that the user currently known as "Mervinh2o" started that thread and was the primary contributor to the thread.

Okay, I noticed that the OP was a dead account, but had no way of knowing it was Mervin's old one.  My mistake.

On top of that, you clearly do not understand the point of that thread. It's beauty is that it's free from politics and polemics, and, in it's way, it is somewhat "old fashioned." But, if I me be so bold, it has one over-arching theme: Respect, and especially, respect for women.

Okay, that explains why it's in Fun&Games instead of 1408, but it's also one of those subjects like Politics, and Religion.  I didn't say anything there, because it is all fun, and games, but this is in Sex Talk, and if I may, that includes Sexist Talk.  At least to me.  "Respect," as it's intended on chivalrous men's part can be condescending to downright insulting on the women's part, when it comes to things like making sure they don't have to open a door for themselves, because they're weak, and fragile likeat.

That's the chivalrous "Respect" I'd like to see just die.  In this day, and age, where women can be MMA fighters, fighter pilots, and superheros from outer space.  Let me point out that Captain Marvel's role in the MCU isn't Wonder-Woman's in the Justice League, she's Superman  (Also, the "Tank" is Captain America.  And the Demi-god is a tall blond with a great body.)  Now, if Comic Book nerds, of all people, can accept that Superman for all intents and purposes can be played by a cute little blond, then she can, in fact, open her own damned door, and pull out her own damned chair.

It's not respect when you force it on her, then demand she "Smile" so you know she likes it.

[MissBarbara]

Okay, that explains why it's in Fun&Games instead of 1408, but it's also one of those subjects like Politics, and Religion.  I didn't say anything there, because it is all fun, and games, but this is in Sex Talk, and if I may, that includes Sexist Talk.  At least to me.  "Respect," as it's intended on chivalrous men's part can be condescending to downright insulting on the women's part, when it comes to things like making sure they don't have to open a door for themselves, because they're weak, and fragile likeat.

That's the chivalrous "Respect" I'd like to see just die.  In this day, and age, where women can be MMA fighters, fighter pilots, and superheros from outer space.  Let me point out that Captain Marvel's role in the MCU isn't Wonder-Woman's in the Justice League, she's Superman  (Also, the "Tank" is Captain America.  And the Demi-god is a tall blond with a great body.)  Now, if Comic Book nerds, of all people, can accept that Superman for all intents and purposes can be played by a cute little blond, then she can, in fact, open her own damned door, and pull out her own damned chair.

It's not respect when you force it on her, then demand she "Smile" so you know she likes it.

The only reason I had a relatively mild objection to your comments is because I find this thread, and the parallel thread for women, to be wonderful sources of information, learning, and insight.

The majority of posts in both threads are genuine requests for information, and this provides a wonderful opportunity for people who have real questions, or who want to correct misunderstandings, or who have inquiries they might be afraid to ask or do not have the opportunity to ask. Or, of course, to provide information to those who seek it.

And that's why I reacted to the politicizing and polemicizing. It's not a thread for debating sexual politics, or discussing the viability social mores. And the more this happens, the less useful these threads will become, and -- perhaps worse -- the less encouraged people will feel to post questions for fear of being mocked or scorned for their "ignorance."

Posters in these threads should take care not to force The Mods to move them to 1408. I don't have the slightest problem with threads about sexual politics, social mores, smashing stereotypes, etc. But that's not what these threads are all about. And perverting them into debate or argument threads does them a grave disservice.

Look at it this way: As an aggressively vanilla and comparatively inexperienced person, I could make a rather long list of things I've learned since joining KB -- things I likely would have never learned if I hadn't spent time here. This has served both to greatly broaden my insight and understanding, and, perhaps more important, it has led me to have an incomparably higher level of tolerance and acceptance of others, especially in the area of sex and sexuality. And I am certain that I am far from alone in this respect.

As I said, debates and arguments about sexual politics and sexual polemics are perfectly viable, and they certainly have their place on KB. However, these two parallel thread are not, in my opinion, the place.

[psiberzerker]

The only reason I had a relatively mild objection to your comments is because I find this thread, and the parallel thread for women, to be wonderful sources of information, learning, and insight.

Fair enough, I sincerely apologize for derailing.

Okay guys:  What's with Diet Beer?  Miller64, you're drinking, out with your Hipster friends (Just watch the commercial) and even singing a Vikingesque drinking shanty on a tailgate with your girlfriends around the fire, and you're counting Calories?  I just heard an ad, and honestly, I don't understand trendy manly men with douchebangs counting calories, to the point of putting the calorie count in the logo.  Am I the only one who wants to pop open a can of spinach, and punch out a bully?  Pirates don't count calories!

Here

Also, ethanol is a multi-systemic depressant.  It's not the calories that gives you beer gut, the active ingredient can crash your metabolism if you drink enough, often enough, but for some reason they don't print that on the superslim can of Michelob Ultra.  The Virginia Slims of Beer.  You've come a long way, baby.

Side effects may include ulcers, cirrossis, and ascites.  Please diet responsibly.

[ChirpingGirl]

Let's all take another look at the rules.  Specifically rule # 1 and rule # 5

1.  Threatening or intimidating behaviour is not tolerated.

5.  Please, no personal insults, except in Room 1408.

In other words, knock this shit off!

Jules is displeased. Which means shut the fuck up and do something else.

[MissBarbara]

Let's all take another look at the rules.  Specifically rule # 1 and rule # 5

1.  Threatening or intimidating behaviour is not tolerated.

5.  Please, no personal insults, except in Room 1408.

In other words, knock this shit off!

Jules is displeased. Which means shut the fuck up and do something else.

No, it doesn't mean that.

The point is that it's possible to have a discussion -- even a heated or pointed discussion -- without having to resort to threats, intimidation, and personal insults. So it's not "shut the fuck up," it's if you want to join this discussion on this particular sub-board, then do so in a civil manner.

In other words, there are places on KB where flaming and personal insults can have free reign; this, simply, isn't one of those places.

[psiberzerker]

There are places on KB where flaming and personal insults can have free reign; this, simply, isn't one of those places.

Uhm,

I can’t be sexist with you, because frankly your sex is a mystery to everyone here, including yourself.  Your porn sucks, your pontifications are unbearable, and you’re not an expert on anything, other than playing the role of a victim.  You are apparently a thrice convicted criminal, with some gender issues.  Fuck.  No wonder they ran you out of RU.

 

[MissBarbara]

There are places on KB where flaming and personal insults can have free reign; this, simply, isn't one of those places.

Uhm,

I can’t be sexist with you, because frankly your sex is a mystery to everyone here, including yourself.  Your porn sucks, your pontifications are unbearable, and you’re not an expert on anything, other than playing the role of a victim.  You are apparently a thrice convicted criminal, with some gender issues.  Fuck.  No wonder they ran you out of RU.

Fair point.

I'd argue, perhaps pointlessly, that assertions like Schmo's are made from a position of such gross stupidity that they are far too ignorant and troglodytic to be insulting.

Then again, labeling someone "stupid," "ignorant," and "troglodytic" probably invalidates my point -- and it probably violates Board rules for non-1408 threads.

[psiberzerker]

Then again, labeling someone "stupid," "ignorant," and "troglodytic" probably invalidates my point -- and it probably violates Board rules for non-1408 threads.

If you give yourself a boo, I'll give you a woo to cancel it out.  I just have to say, my outbursts weren't completely unprovoked.

[ChirpingGirl]

Let's all take another look at the rules.  Specifically rule # 1 and rule # 5

1.  Threatening or intimidating behaviour is not tolerated.

5.  Please, no personal insults, except in Room 1408.

In other words, knock this shit off!

Jules is displeased. Which means shut the fuck up and do something else.

No, it doesn't mean that.

The point is that it's possible to have a discussion -- even a heated or pointed discussion -- without having to resort to threats, intimidation, and personal insults. So it's not "shut the fuck up," it's if you want to join this discussion on this particular sub-board, then do so in a civil manner.

In other words, there are places on KB where flaming and personal insults can have free reign; this, simply, isn't one of those places.

Oh yes it does. Don't piss Jules off.  You'll live longer.