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Reply #320 on: December 11, 2018, 02:22:03 AM

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Reply #321 on: December 11, 2018, 02:46:45 AM

There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.


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Reply #322 on: December 11, 2018, 05:50:16 AM
Ex-Baylor Frat President Accused of Rape Won't Serve Any Prison Time

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This is so wrong!

Well I guess we know what the value of being a woman is in Texas.
Once again the system has failed with no concern for the victim.
Nice job Texas.........

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Reply #323 on: December 11, 2018, 06:21:10 AM
The last few years Baylor Universtiy has not had much sympathy for sexual assault.

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Reply #324 on: December 11, 2018, 02:12:44 PM
Maybe the victims should listen to those fine people on the right, and shoot the bastard.

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Reply #325 on: December 11, 2018, 02:27:46 PM
Maybe the victims should listen to those fine people on the right, and shoot the bastard.


But he’s described as rich and white. . . . . in Texas. . . . a far right Republican state (at least for now).  And the Republican Party’s basic premise is the rich and white get whatever they want.  And we live in a time where you can be caught on tape saying, ‘Grab em by the pussy,’ and the people don’t mind and vote you in as President of the U.S.





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Reply #326 on: December 11, 2018, 03:46:00 PM
Let us gather by the Bastille.
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Reply #327 on: December 18, 2018, 01:48:48 AM

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Reply #328 on: December 19, 2018, 11:57:59 PM

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Reply #329 on: December 28, 2018, 12:22:25 AM

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Reply #330 on: December 31, 2018, 03:59:23 PM

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Reply #331 on: December 31, 2018, 05:34:48 PM

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Reply #332 on: December 31, 2018, 05:37:43 PM
Steve Alford has been fired at UCLA.  He should not have gotten that job, nor should he get another.

Bernstein: UCLA Hired A Scumbag

Steve Alford’s handling of the Pierre Pierce sexual assault case should make him unhireable at Indiana

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On October 1, 2002, Iowa basketball player Pierre Pierce was charged with third-degree sexual assault, a Class C felony worth up to 10 years in prison. The incident had occurred a little under a month prior on September 7, 2002. The day after the arrest, Iowa AD Bob Bowlsby announced that Pierce was suspended from all team activities. That same day, Alford vigorously defended his accused player, saying that he “supported him 100 percent,” In the same article, Alford spent time discussing his own successes with the team, and indicated that journalists should spend more more time talking about what the team — and specifically he — had accomplished, claiming that “Nobody writes about the fact that we have three players in Dean (Oliver), Luke (Recker) and Reggie (Evans) in NBA camps right now.”

This wasn't a one-time defense, or one-time comment. Alford launched a campaign for one of his freshman stars in Pierce, well prior to the legal case’s resolution.

Consider his other statements as the case progressed. Alford also stated about his player that "unfortunately, the judging has already started and that's the pain."

At Big Ten Media Day that season, Alford continued to defend Pierce, saying: "I totally believe he's innocent... I believed it from Day One, and I still believe it.”

After this incident, a special report was commissioned by the University of Iowa about how all parties handled this situation. According to the report, supporting Pierce ran counter to the advice that Bowlsby had given him, saying that he should await the resolution of the legal matter. The report also mentioned that when dealing with the aftermath of the incident prior to the arrest, Alford attempted to evade the traditional resources at University of Iowa. Instead, he wanted Pierce and the victim to go through a Christian organization called Athletes in Action, which had a representative on campus with whom Alford was friendly. It was this action that led the victim to pursuing criminal charges.

Ultimately, the charges were reduced from a felony to a misdemeanor, and on November 1, 2002, Pierce pleaded guilty of this lesser charge. Pierce indeed redshirted during the 2002-03 season, and was back playing on the team the following season.

In a 2003 radio interview, Alford still defended Pierce, and basically said everyone else needed to get over it: “This is already behind us. I already told you, two lives have been affected. Now, they’ve gotta move on. … You can’t keep dwelling on something that’s already happened. … What I’ve tried to do with Pierre and his family is really support him in every way I can.”

But the Pierce story doesn’t end with this incident.

Pierce came back to the team for the 2003-04 season and for most of the 2004-05 season. During the 2004-05 season, however, Pierce was arrested again, this time for assaulting a former girlfriend and attempting to burglarize her apartment. This time, he was finally kicked off the team. Though he faced several years of jail time, he spent less than a year in prison, thanks to a plea bargain.

By then, though, the damage had been done, and Alford had helped to foster an environment in which Pierce was allowed to be a repeat offender. By defending Pierce when it wasn’t necessary to do so, Alford indirectly contributed to him committing another crime in Iowa City.

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Alford’s proponents and others hit a similar refrain, often. This was 12 years ago, they’ll tell you — and time absolves sins, or something.

But the sheer passage of time doesn't and shouldn't absolve Alford. Still, to this day, Alford’s only showing of contrition came in a prepared statement issued in face of steep public pressure. At the bare minimum, Steve Alford owes answers. Does he understand, after years of maintaining his relative innocence under respondeat superior despite evidence otherwise, how his actions have impacted victims of sexual assault?

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Reply #333 on: January 01, 2019, 12:21:53 AM
All I care about is justice, that the guilty are prosecuted and the innocent are set free,
and of course that all individuals are treated as innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, not in the media, not at the local hair dresser, nor at the public water cooler.

I been hearing gossip since I was a kid and never could tolerate it.



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Reply #334 on: January 01, 2019, 12:36:19 AM
All I care about is justice, that the guilty are prosecuted and the innocent are set free,

How do we determine this, in cases of sexual victimization?



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Reply #335 on: January 01, 2019, 07:17:28 PM
How do we determine this, in cases of sexual victimization?

I do not know how to determine guilt or innocence from hearsay.  You cannot deprive someone of their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness without due process of the law.  It is in the constitution.  Trying someone in the press is not due process. 



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Reply #336 on: January 01, 2019, 07:43:44 PM
I do not know how to determine guilt or innocence from hearsay.  You cannot deprive someone of their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness without due process of the law.  It is in the constitution.  Trying someone in the press is not due process. 

Name one person incarcerated in this thread by the press.

Thanks in advance.

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Reply #337 on: January 01, 2019, 07:48:29 PM
Another gentle reminder that Social Media are Media.  This is the 5th Estate.  If you want to start a Blog, or Vlog, it's pretty much up to the audience to decide whether it's meaningful content, or you suck.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that traditional (Or if you prefer, "Mainstream") press are getting their asses handed to them on the internet, and slowly becoming obsolete.  If you want to make the big bucks, instead of hiring a bunch of reporters, and setting up a studio, the smart investor will just start a site, and encourage people to speak their minds.  Like Mark Zuckerberg did, he can just sit back, and let the audience fight over who gets to say what.



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Reply #338 on: January 01, 2019, 08:35:34 PM

Another gentle reminder that Social Media are Media.  This is the 5th Estate.  If you want to start a Blog, or Vlog, it's pretty much up to the audience to decide whether it's meaningful content, or you suck.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that traditional (Or if you prefer, "Mainstream") press are getting their asses handed to them on the internet, and slowly becoming obsolete.  If you want to make the big bucks, instead of hiring a bunch of reporters, and setting up a studio, the smart investor will just start a site, and encourage people to speak their minds.  Like Mark Zuckerberg did, he can just sit back, and let the audience fight over who gets to say what.


Good points.

Though I'd suggest that the effect of social media has had the opposite affect on the mainstream media: The MSM has become more like social media outlets than journalism outlets. Even the august New York Times has fallen prey to this phenomenon.

But your basic point is well-taken.





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Reply #339 on: January 01, 2019, 08:37:37 PM

I do not know how to determine guilt or innocence from hearsay.  You cannot deprive someone of their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness without due process of the law.  It is in the constitution.  Trying someone in the press is not due process. 


Name one person incarcerated in this thread by the press.

Thanks in advance.

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Exactly.

Trying someone in the press isn't trying someone. And the "court of public opinion" is not a court. Metaphors...

P.S. It's just me, but I have a hard time taking someone with the screen name "Seven Inch Blues" seriously...






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