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on: May 14, 2017, 09:22:48 PM
http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/

Enjoy the report, a milestone along the way to Making America Great Again!

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Reply #1 on: May 14, 2017, 09:39:56 PM
And that is approximately .01% of the crimes committed… by natural born citizens. So while those are horrible occurances, eliminating them would not significantly or materially affect the crime rate.

So your point is?

Or were you simply indulging in xenophobic fear-mongering.

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Reply #2 on: May 14, 2017, 09:46:21 PM
Unfortunately, the solution to criminal U.S. Citizens is not Deportation. At least not for most who currently enjoy U.S. Citizenship... and so, the Illegal Alien Crime Report is just what it says it is, detailing of crimes by Illegal Aliens in US.

And that is approximately .01% of the crimes committed… by natural born citizens. So while those are horrible occurances, eliminating them would not significantly or materially affect the crime rate.

So your point is?

Or were you simply indulging in xenophobic fear-mongering.

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Reply #3 on: May 14, 2017, 09:56:08 PM
Or were you simply indulging in xenophobic fear-mongering.

Yup.

If the truth does not support your position, emphasize what does.  Crime by immigrants is among the lowest by any demographic.  Mostly these are people fleeing crime and violence elsewhere and are among America's hardest working residents.  Immigrants made America Great.

What doesn't make America Great?  A bunch of resentful yahoo rednecks that would rather complain than make an effort. Scapegoating bigots is another term for them.




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Reply #4 on: May 14, 2017, 10:08:56 PM
Anything to distract from the moron in the White House, eh Joan?



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Reply #5 on: May 14, 2017, 10:22:39 PM
   Illegal Aliens committing crime is not a Trump story, and that is why it is not lumped into the Trump thread(s). It is an issue important to any correct thinking American, as it is one that was (maybe will be one day) totally preventable.  The criminals noted are not in the Country legally, should not be here at all, therefore ALL criminal aliens are committing preventable crimes.

   In case some Americans are unaware, this monthly report helps all understand. I know all here at KB are aware of criminal aliens, and the costs they impose on legal residents and citizens, just thought you may enjoy seeing the listings presented in the report.

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Reply #6 on: May 14, 2017, 10:41:24 PM
Well, sure; that's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is, since undocumented immigrants conduct significantly less crime than, for example, right wing fascists, zealots, white nationalists and other undesirables, the quickest route to reducing crime would be to deport the various unsavory people noted above, and replace them with more "illegals".

The crime rate would drop like a rock.

That won't happen, of course. But given my druthers, I'd rather have a family of undocumented Mexicans living in my neighborhood than someone like you, Joan. That's simply the truth.



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Reply #7 on: May 14, 2017, 10:56:57 PM
So if what Joan says is even semi-important, maybe we should report (or have reports) of  crimes (all crimes) by ethnic nationality.??....You know......Italian Crimes, French Crimes, Irish Crimes, That way we can see "who" the real criminals are.....
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Reply #8 on: May 14, 2017, 11:07:59 PM
Yeah, Liz, but you can see why she picks undocumented aliens -- they're an easy target.

This seemed like the right thread to place this article in.

White nationalist Richard Spencer leads torch-bearing protesters defending Lee statue
 

Protesters gather at Lee Park in Charlottesville on Saturday.

RICHMOND — Self-proclaimed white nationalist Richard Spencer led a large group of demonstrators carrying torches and chanting “You will not replace us” Saturday in Charlottesville, protesting plans to remove a Confederate monument that has played an outsize role in this year’s race for Virginia governor.

“What brings us together is that we are white, we are a people, we will not be replaced,” Spencer said at the first of two rallies he led in the college town where he once attended the University of Virginia.

At the second rally, dozens of torch-bearing protesters gathered in a city park Saturday evening and chanted “You will not replace us” and “Russia is our friend,” local television footage shows. Spencer was not shown addressing that gathering, but he tweeted a photo of himself standing in the crowd carrying what appeared to be a bamboo tiki torch.

The evening protest was short-lived. About 10 minutes in, an altercation between Spencer’s group and counterprotesters drew police to the scene, and the crowd quickly dispersed, the Charlottesville Daily Progress reported.

Once an obscure Internet figure promoting white identity, Spencer coined the term “alt-right” — referring to a small, far-right movement that seeks a whites-only state — and rose to prominence during Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. Although Trump denounced the alt-right, Spencer’s followers counted his victory as a win for the movement as Trump espoused hard-right stances on undocumented immigrants, Muslims and political correctness.

“You will not replace us. You will not destroy us,” Spencer said at the earlier rally, which he broadcast via Periscope video. “You cannot destroy us. We have awoken. We are here. We are never going away.”

Spencer was in Charlottesville to protest a City Council vote to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee. A court injunction has halted the removal for six months.

The statue has become a rallying cry for a Republican gubernatorial candidate Corey Stewart. Stewart, who is chairman of the Prince William Board of County Supervisors, was chairman of Trump’s Virginia campaign until he was fired.

There was no indication that Stewart, who has alienated some supporters with his focus on Confederate symbols, attended either rally. In defending the Confederate battle flag and monuments, Stewart has said that he is not promoting symbols of hate but battling “political correctness” and “historical vandalism.”

Stewart did not respond to a request for comment Sunday. He kept a relatively low-profile on Twitter.

“I want to wish all the mothers a very special Mother’s Day today!” he said in one of his few tweets of the day.

The rallies drew condemnation from the other four contenders for governor: former Republican National Committee chairman Ed Gillespie, state Sen. Frank Wagner (R-Virginia Beach) and Democrats Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam and former congressman Tom Perriello.

All are vying to succeed term-limited Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D).

“The ugly display of divisive rhetoric and intimidation tactics in Charlottesville yesterday … does not reflect the thoughtfulness and tolerance I see in my fellow Virginians everywhere I go,” Gillespie tweeted.

Wagner (R-Virginia Beach), who faces Stewart and Gillespie in the June 13 GOP primary, said via email: “These actions are totally unacceptable. These people are racists. They don’t represent Virginia values. I condemn their actions and beliefs. I call on all Virginians who are involved in efforts to advocate for or against Virginia’s history to act responsibly and honorably.”

Said Northam, “There is no place for hate, fear, or intimidation in Virginia. The display in Charlottesville is the last gasp of a disgusting ideology. In this commonwealth, our doors are open, our lights are on, and we are welcome to everyone who shares a love for it, no matter who you are or where you’re from.”

Perriello, who grew up in Charlottesville, tweeted derisively at Spencer after the alt-right leader posted video of the first protest.

“Get your white supremacist hate out of my hometown,” Perriello wrote on Twitter.

Spencer replied: “We won, you lost, little Tommy.”

“Actually, you lost,” Perriello shot back. “In 1865. 150 years later, you’re still not over it.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/alt-rights-richard-spencer-leads-torch-bearing-protesters-defending-lee-statue/2017/05/14/766aaa56-38ac-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html



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Reply #9 on: May 14, 2017, 11:52:07 PM
http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/

Enjoy the report, a milestone along the way to Making America Great Again!

What you don't realise, Joan, is that the fact that each crime can be documented individually shows how rare they are.

The latest-available FBI data shows that there were 137 violent crimes per hour for the whole of 2015.

Even if all the crimes on that site were violent, that would be 0.08% of the national total.  As it is, a large number of the crimes these illegal immigrants committed are purely the crime of being in America, which, given the nature of the site, is an entirely redundant crime to list.

It is very convenient to forget that 98.3% of the American population are immigrants or the descendants of immigrants.

I'll just leave this here;




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Reply #10 on: May 15, 2017, 12:58:36 AM

Joan already brought that site up last year some time, and I reported at the time that the site didn't even exist until 2015.  It's a Wordpress blog of questionable origin.

It uses sites like Breitbart for it's 'news'.  :emot_lmfao:  :emot_booty:

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Reply #11 on: May 15, 2017, 03:02:30 AM
In other words, it's an echo chamber.



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Reply #12 on: May 15, 2017, 04:00:40 PM
Immigrants and descendants of Immigrants, LEGAL Immigrants. Different from foreign Invaders, who did not ask, and were not invited, are not welcomed.

Legal.  It is a concept all can understand.  

Illegal = Criminal, also understood.

There is a difference between those who seek to come and are accepted, and welcomed, and those who sneak into the country, breaking immigration law, overstay their visa, breaking immigration law, and drain resources from those Citizens who need this nations resources.




http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/

Enjoy the report, a milestone along the way to Making America Great Again!

What you don't realise, Joan, is that the fact that each crime can be documented individually shows how rare they are.

The latest-available FBI data shows that there were 137 violent crimes per hour for the whole of 2015.

Even if all the crimes on that site were violent, that would be 0.08% of the national total.  As it is, a large number of the crimes these illegal immigrants committed are purely the crime of being in America, which, given the nature of the site, is an entirely redundant crime to list.

It is very convenient to forget that 98.3% of the American population are immigrants or the descendants of immigrants.

I'll just leave this here;



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Reply #13 on: May 15, 2017, 05:19:40 PM
Again your over-generalized views are unsupported. Even the in-documented immigrants pay theirbtaxes. They usually have no health insurance, but that's really what the GOP and your conservative friends insist upon. And that policy reduces many citizens to the same recourse that undocumented immigrants resort to, the Emergency room.

Poor social policies have consequences, and you are railing in about how those social policies that you support are causing problems.

You are not part of the solution, Joan. You are part of the problem.

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Reply #14 on: May 15, 2017, 07:20:32 PM
Immigrants and descendants of Immigrants, LEGAL Immigrants. Different from foreign Invaders, who did not ask, and were not invited, are not welcomed.

Um.... yes.  Just check with all those native Americans about uninvited foreign invaders...

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Legal.  It is a concept all can understand.  

Illegal = Criminal, also understood.

There is a difference between those who seek to come and are accepted, and welcomed, and those who sneak into the country, breaking immigration law, overstay their visa, breaking immigration law, and drain resources from those Citizens who need this nations resources.



Nobody is disputing the definition of "legal", just the implication that illegal immigrants are somehow responsible for some sort of "crime wave".

The behaviour of immigrants is something I have taken an interest in over the last couple of years, and I can assure you that the representation you are trying to promote is absolutely false.

Obviously, as in any section of a population, there are "bad eggs", but the vast majority of immigrants, both legal and illegal, are statistically far more likely to be law abiding.  For legal immigrants, there is a fear of loss of status, and of excessive reprisals from those who are less inclined to be inclined to welcome cultural diversity.

For illegal immigrants, the fear is even greater, as even a minor offence can attract enough attention to trigger a deportation or imprisonment.

Immigrants are more likely to accept work that is beneath their abilities and qualifications, purely to avoid official attention.  They are more likely to pay their taxes on time, more likely to keep vehicles in a fit and legal state to be on the road.

In the UK, they are more likely to pay their full level of national insurance (to avoid attracting official attention), but less likely to claim the benefits that this entitles them to.  They are less likely to access health services (because they tend to be young and healthy when they arrive), less likely to block housing (because they are happy to live in hostels, dormitories and even tent villages), and tend not to take up school places intended for "local folk", as many immigrants come purely to earn money, and leave their families at home.

The proportion of illegal immigrants committing actual crimes (aside from "daring to be in America") is far lower than that of the "legitimate" Americans who are so keen to demonise the people who are simply following the example of those already in the United States.




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Reply #15 on: May 15, 2017, 07:52:45 PM
Illegal does not always mean criminal. Such black and white this thinking shows lack of intelligence.



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Reply #16 on: May 16, 2017, 02:15:31 AM
Rational people agree that Illegal means Not Legal.

Born here? Good to go... Show your documents, and proceed...

Not born here? Papers, please...

Aliens are required to keep documents to show their legal status. Just because leftist wish to have the undocumented votes, does not make their status any more legal than it was otherwise.

Hard working (not on the dole for any Government benefit, State or Federal) undocumented aliens, with no history of law breaking or arrests, would be more acceptable for some Residency status that precludes 'Rights' of Citizenship, in a negotiated arrangement, it seems to me. So long as the 'vote' possibility exists the Democrats will openly lobby, nay will openly advocate breaking any laws to make this so. 

Common sense to anyone looking with their own lyin' eyes.


Illegal does not always mean criminal. Such black and white this thinking shows lack of intelligence.

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Reply #18 on: May 16, 2017, 06:42:11 AM
LOL.

Thanks for that, Lois.



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Reply #19 on: May 16, 2017, 10:54:27 AM
LOL. Thank you, Lois. Directly on point as always.

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