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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/trophy-hunting-jacine-jadresko-1.3974716

Jadresko said she is an ethical hunter and sees hunting as a form of wildlife conservation.
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How exactly does this equate to "conservation"?



Jadresko said she is an ethical hunter and sees hunting as a form of wildlife conservation.
"Hunting is not about killing for me," she said. "I have a huge respect for each species that I hunt and each animal that I hunt and they're each very special to me. "



Then why kill them for fun?



Sorry this is not an attack on any of you who do hunt for food. Heck, I like venison so much I'd kill Bambi's mom right in front of him and laugh on his face while I do it for some rack of venison, but this lady is a fucking idiot.

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Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 01:54:01 AM
Many hunters believe this, and in some cases it is true.  In North America we have killed off many predators so the natural population control no longer takes place.  Deer are a prime example of this.

But I agree, if you hunt it you should eat it.

I don't understand trophy hunting at all.



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Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 04:01:27 AM

Yawn. Yet another subject too controversial to talk reasonably about.

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Reply #3 on: February 11, 2017, 06:33:54 AM
I think that wild boar hunting is a fair test of a hunter' skill… as long as he is on foot and only uses a boar spear.

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Reply #4 on: February 11, 2017, 06:54:01 AM
I think that wild boar hunting is a fair test of a hunter' skill… as long as he is on foot and only uses a boar spear.

Heh... now that shit I'd watch... yes, the hunters should be fairly matched with weapons that make it an equal contest.

The scaredest I have been in my adult life was an abortive attempt at wild boar hunting, at night, no less. Lemme point out... I'm a bona fide gun nut, I've got about thirty something guns. I'm not a hunter, though... the only animal I ever killed was a rabbit, forty-odd years ago, and we were gonna eat it until my dad skinned it and found some polyps that made him nervous.

Anway, the darkest night of my life, somewhere in the middle of Arkansas, crouching in the underbrush and hearing those goddam pigs crash through the underbrush all around me... I prayed, I freakin' prayed to things I no longer believe in, get me outa this fuckin' mess! It was frightening. I was carrying an HK91 with a 20 round mag of .308's... and I felt way undergunned. Those bastards ran past us like little tanks comin' onto the beach at D-Day or something... and not a shot was fired. When we got back to the trucks more than a few of the mighty hunters admitted to being frightened that night. Believe it, wild pigs are scary little critters. Seeing those white tusks gleam in the lanternlight... it takes days to get your asshole unpuckered. I was scared at first of being shot by one of my buddies, but after the pigs showed up... I was way more scared of the pigs.

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Reply #5 on: February 11, 2017, 03:57:39 PM

Yawn. Yet another subject too controversial to talk reasonably about.

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Reply #6 on: February 11, 2017, 04:16:50 PM

Yawn. Yet another subject too controversial to talk reasonably about.

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Yet you commented twice

Yes, I'm one of those guys who can't take no for an answer. So sue me!

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Reply #7 on: February 11, 2017, 06:58:10 PM
How much sport is it when these hunters usually have guides beating the surrounding bush and trees to drive the animals towards the hunter? 

It may be conservation since many states issue only so many licenses for that particular animal.  Some species need to be culled or they will overpopulate and then face starvation. 

I am with Katie.  Send a hunter armed only with a spear after the a wild boar.  May the best animal win.

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Reply #8 on: February 11, 2017, 07:20:47 PM
I think culling the deer herd is one thing.  Killing exotics on the endangered species list is another.  In 1900 there were 100,000 tigers in the wild; now only 3,000 remain.  So tell me how killing a tiger is "conservation."  It isn't.  It's one more step towards extinction.




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Reply #9 on: February 11, 2017, 10:55:43 PM
I come from a long line of poachers.  Once ancestor in Bohemia (now known as the Czech Republic) killed a deer on a reserve to feed his family sometime around 1840.  He was found out and fled to Hungary, and from Hungary came to the United States.

Later someone in this same branch of the family got busted for poaching fish out of season on Lake Michigan during the depression.  He resisted arrest and put a hole in the bottom of the sheriff's boat.  They nearly all drown.  :o

Then during the depression my Grandfather shot and salted down two barrels of elk.  He got busted when the neighbor lady turned him in.  She found out because he gave her 1/2 a salted elk to feed her and her children.  They were starving.

I get hunting for food.  Some people have no other options. I just don't get the trophy hunting thing, where the head/pictures are taken and the meat is left to rot.

As for those that kill endangered animals, they are simply vile.

Lions are suffering a fate similar to that of Tigers.  It is estimated that we have lost 80 - 90% of Africa's lion population since 1975.  THere are now more Lions in captivity than in the wild.  But trophy hunters still wna their trophies.  So the canned hunting industry is booming. 

So what is canned hunting?  This is where captive lions are bred and raised to trophy size and then shot in a cage, or otherwise restrained, by a "hunter" that pays up to $50,000 to do so.  Truly vile.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/jun/03/canned-hunting-lions-bred-slaughter

Some might argue that if not for canned hunting then lions would be doomed as they would have no economic value.  But such lions are bred indiscriminately, brother to sister, and genetic abnormalities abound.  Cubs are also taken away from their mothers right away to force them back into estrus and keep them constantly breeding.

As for the cubs, they are hand reared by volunteers that often do know what fate awaits them.  They are loved and raised to trust humans so that their eventual "hunters" will never face any real danger.



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Reply #10 on: February 12, 2017, 02:25:40 AM
We have too many of these canned hunting "preserves" in Texas, many within driving distance of my house.  What I have noticed about many of the people, who pay to slaughter exotics, is the following characteristics:

• Height challenged
• Beer gut
• Huge 4x4 jacked up diesel truck (compensating?)
• Gun rack
• Trump bumper sticker



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Reply #11 on: February 12, 2017, 02:30:18 AM
Do you mean they are "deplorables"?   :emot_laughing:



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Reply #12 on: February 12, 2017, 03:41:03 AM
He means that if they had to actually hunt, they would end up shooting themselves or a friend.

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Reply #13 on: February 12, 2017, 07:42:49 AM
He means that if they had to actually hunt, they would end up shooting themselves or a friend.

But they *can* poach a domesticated trophy animal, eating from a deer corn feeder, with help.  Then they fill their trophy room with mounts.  I wonder about the karma that fills those homes...



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Reply #14 on: February 12, 2017, 04:00:31 PM
"Hunting" I those perseverance, from a shooting blundnthat isniften air conditioned and heated, allowing unimpeded sight down a  Lane of fire that is cleared and manicured, to a salt lick or feeder isn't hunting. It's shooting.

A hunter stalks his prey, and often returns without a kill.


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Reply #15 on: February 12, 2017, 04:17:19 PM


A hunter stalks his prey, and often returns without a kill.



I could not agree more.  That was the hunting of my youth.  Too often these days, it's a bunch of bubba's executing animals to bolster their flagging masculinity.



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Reply #16 on: February 12, 2017, 05:26:54 PM
So what is canned hunting?  This is where captive lions are bred and raised to trophy size and then shot in a cage, or otherwise restrained, by a "hunter" that pays up to $50,000 to do so.  Truly vile.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/jun/03/canned-hunting-lions-bred-slaughter

Some might argue that if not for canned hunting then lions would be doomed as they would have no economic value.  But such lions are bred indiscriminately, brother to sister, and genetic abnormalities abound.  Cubs are also taken away from their mothers right away to force them back into estrus and keep them constantly breeding.

As for the cubs, they are hand reared by volunteers that often do know what fate awaits them.  They are loved and raised to trust humans so that their eventual "hunters" will never face any real danger.



What the holy mother of cougar fuck?!

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