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Reply #140 on: August 06, 2017, 03:26:17 AM
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I've been doing a variant of 'intermittent fasting' for 40 years.  I skip lunch, not even a snack.


Me too. Feels great so far.



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Reply #141 on: August 08, 2017, 03:39:39 AM

The focaccia only lasted 2 days... I couldn't stop myself, and really there's no reason to!

One of the NICE things about the Low-Carb High-Fat / Paleo / whatinhellever it's called this week diet: NO carb counting, and unlimited eating.  My 'austerity' diet for the last 40 years has been shot all to hell, and I'm still the same weight I settled at 2 months ago, only a pound or so wobble over 2 months time (and that could easily be water weight).


Now, I seriously need to research a decent pita bread equivalent.  I'm thinking yucca root flour (cassava) for the base...  my attempts with nut-based flours were all flops.

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Reply #142 on: August 08, 2017, 09:57:07 PM
Love pita bread.



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Reply #143 on: August 13, 2017, 04:13:51 AM

Well, the first-pass mostly-Paleo pita bread wasn't a stellar success.  I took someone else's recipe that looked good and changed the coconut flour to cassava flour (yucca root) to try it out.  The original recipe called for a cup of coconut flour and a half cup of coconut oil.  WAAAYYYY too much oil in the end, and the pitas didn't rise... at all.  They smell good and taste good, albeit oily with coconut & more like a flat, crunchy naan.  Next weekend I'll try again with half the oil and a teaspoon of baking soda to see how that works out.

Edit: after they've been in the refrigerator overnight, they're much like a-bit-thicker flour tortilla.  Hmmmm....

Edit 2:  Here's what I'll try next weekend -


courtesy of Predominantly Paleo, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCteqLKh_x0lje9VUZgmGZWQ
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Reply #144 on: August 13, 2017, 03:46:59 PM
I wanna know the end result.



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Reply #145 on: August 24, 2017, 05:37:15 AM
Food is a necessary addition.  That is what makes dieting and  loosing weight so hard.  If it was easy, it would not be such a problem.

I am overweight and would like nothing better than to loose weight, but ever diet I've started has been marked by weight gain.

I can pretty well guarantee you that the Paleo / Ketogenic / Low Carb, High Fat (LCHF) diet will knock the weight off.  The crucial difference with those three lifestyle changes is that you have to convert your metabolism.  Right now, you're burning sugars for energy.  Your liver takes in the carbs and sugars and converts the excess sugars to fats, then your body stores the fats in case it needs 'em later.  'Later' never happens, to most of us, so the fat stays.  With the Low Carb, High Fat diet, you're mostly eliminating the carbs and sugars, so the body is forced to burn fats for energy.  Once you've converted to ketosis, the body starts farming all of that stored fat you have, particularly so if you start doing some intermittent fasting AFTER the conversion.

Some people can take 2 to 4 weeks for the ketogenic shift to happen.  In my case, the metabolic shift happened over the course of one week... I lost 8 pounds, and it hasn't come back in the 9 weeks after.  Right now my BMI is at 15.  I've been eating twice as much as I used to, and still stay the same weight after that initial drop.  I didn't have much fat to lose, but I for damned sure lost it all.  The only change since then was when the gastro doc had me start taking MiraLax to get rid of the (several pounds worth of) fiber impacted into my bowels.  I dropped another 3 to 4 pounds after that course of 'laxative'.  He says that MiraLax is the ONLY one that's safe to use long-term, and recommends it for the specific diet I'm on (AIP) since my diet is VERY high in fiber.  My meals over the day consist of 80% veggies, 10 to 15% meats or animal proteins, and 5 to 10% fruits, berries, nuts and seeds.  That's pretty much it.  What little carbs I get are the complex carbs in the veggies and little bit of fruit, same goes for the sugars.  I have maybe a half teaspoon of honey at lunch when I eat a 'fat bomb' to keep the energy up for the afternoon.

Gina and I are the only ones that have raised our hands for being on a LCHF diet, but possibly others are as well.  For both of us, the fat is history.  We can assure you that it works.  If you stay on it and don't cheat too much, you'll stay in ketosis and the fat will stay off.  If you cheat excessively, you'll fall back into a sugar metabolism and be right where you started.  The 'piss test' ketogenic test strips aren't accurate: you really need a blood analyzer to tell the level of ketones in the blood.  The piss strips only tell you how much EXCESS ketones are being excreted in urine.

https://www.walmart.com/search/?query=nova%20max%20plus&cat_id=0

That's the best meter that does both ketones & blood glucose, and it's a smokin' deal at Walmart.

The meter is $17, or you can get it for $22.66 with 50 glucose test strips.  You can probably convince your doctor to write a prescription for it as I suspect you're borderline diabetic.  The ketone strips for any blood meter are expensive, $56.22 for 40 strips above.  You only need to test weekly (or maybe twice a week, if you're at risk for falling out of ketosis).  I'm solidly in 'cos there's nothing in my diet other than a little fructose from the fruits and berries, and the honey in the fat bombs.  That's not enough to bump me out of ketosis.

I have a *vast* archive of information and recipes that I'm about to re-up to my Google drive if you need an information overload on various healthy diets.

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Reply #146 on: August 24, 2017, 05:29:05 PM
Threads like this make the scientist in cringe so badly he dislocates his face.

The only evidence based non-surgical way to lose weight are to restrict energy intake, increase energy output, or, preferably, both.

I'm not trying to start an argument - I will happily discuss the contents of any peer-reviewed paper on the subject from a medical journal.

All else are fads and scams.





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Reply #147 on: August 24, 2017, 06:43:22 PM
My breakfast is usually a bowl of steel cut oats with a bit of milk. Sometimes I have a Cliff bar or eggs instead. Lunch is celery, tomato, bell pepper, cucumber, black olives and cheese. Dinner varies a great deal, but it is a small portion and I don't go back for seconds.

No one would say I eat too much.

And not diabetic at all, which is surprising given the family history. My blood work and other vitals show I'm very healthy.

The only glitch is GERDS and osteoporosis.

One other thing I should mention, I get crippling hunger pains when I don't eat. I am talking doubling over pains.

I'm not big on Paleo. It's a fad diet. When I read the "no legumes" part I knew it was a BS diet. Studies on longevity in European populations show those longest lived and with very low rates of heart disease had a diet rich in plant proteins, specifically from legumes.
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Reply #148 on: August 26, 2017, 05:19:59 AM

I can help the osteoporosis.  The Japanese have been prescribing vitamin K2  (specifically the MK-4 variant) since 1995 to minimize or eliminate osteoporosis.  All that I can find in stores is MK-7, which is pretty much a "do-nothing" version of K2, based on the research I did at PubMed.  MK-4 is almost totally unknown on this side of the Pacific.  I mentioned it to my surgeon and pointed her at the metastudies on MK-4, and she's hot to try it out with some of her tough cases.  I couldn't find MK-4 at ANY of the stores, including GNC and Whole Foods.  You can get it from Amazon, and I have a couple of suggested vendors here somewhere.

I'm not much help on GERD; I had a bouncing baby 1.2cm duodenal ulcer back in the late '80s that cimetidine helped cure.  The biggest part of the cure for me was stress reduction, but it doesn't look like that's indicated in GERD.

I'm with you on a few of the Paleo restrictions.  From what I can tell, Dr. Cordain forbade legumes and tree nuts 'cos they both have hormone disruptors.  However, if they're processed or cooked correctly, the disruptors are almost entirely eliminated.  I haven't found a way yet to process the nightshade vegetables so they're also safe.  Bearing all that in mind, most times I describe it as the ketogenic or LCHF diet, and the specific version I'm on (the most restrictive) is the Autoimmune Protocol.  I've eliminated almost ALL of the allergen or dietary triggers that anyone knows about that could fire off the immune system to kill my thyroid.

Hmmm... there's a thought: if you're gaining weight on YOUR diet, you might be hypothyroid and your doctor doesn't know it.  The standard test range for TSH is flat wrong: when it was determined, they included the lab results from something like 30,000 people and averaged it, then drew the bell curve.  They also included the 5% of people that are hyper- and hypothyroid in that average, which skewed the range.  The lab range for TSH is 0.5-4.7 UIU/mL, but the OPTIMAL range for healthy (no-thyroid-issue) folks is actually 1.3-2.5, so you could 'pass' the TSH test but still have hypothyroid symptoms like weight gain.

Idleboast, you've GREATLY oversimplified it, nearly to the point of absurdity.  Sugar is 'calories', and so are fats.  If you eat lots of sugars and carbs and little fat, you gain weight.  If you eat lots of fats and very little sugars & simple carbs, then you go into nutritional ketosis and burning fat is the order of the day.  There are 3 primary types of ketogenic diets, but what most people need to be doing is the 'standard' ketogenic diet.  The other two are primarily for athletes that are closely monitoring their performance, and aren't recommended for the average person.  Everyone's metabolism is different, and you have to play with it to find out what works best for you.  We aren't cloned piebald lab mice, so we differ in our optimal solution.

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Reply #149 on: August 26, 2017, 06:26:03 AM
GERDS runs in the family and I agrivated by fats in he diet. That is because fat requires lot of stomach acid to digest, then the body literally leaches my bones of calcium to neutralize the excess stomach acid, hence the osteoporosis.

And yet fat is necessary so I need to be selective about it.

Thanks for the tip on the k2/mk-4 variant. I will give it a try.



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Reply #150 on: August 26, 2017, 05:53:38 PM

Here's the best source for MK-4 that I'd found.  They have two different versions, one with just 15mg MK-4 per capsule, and one with 15mg MK-4 + 60mcg MK-7.  Both versions should be taken 3 times per day (every 8 hours) as the half-life of MK-4 in the blood is only several hours; your body immediately starts scavenging it for use (that's a hint...)  MK-7 lasts for a couple of days.

https://supplements.relentlessimprovement.com/categories.aspx?Keyword=vitamin+k2

Note that the Japanese have some evidence that populations that eat Natto (high in MK-7) have a reduced risk of hip fracture compared to populations that don't eat Natto.  Natto is an utterly foul fermented version of soy beans that's disgustingly slimy and smells like an over-ripe food compost heap.  The version I linked above is NOT produced from soy.

The food that's highest in MK-4 is goose liver pâté.  It's a bit pricey, so I'd recommend the supplement above.  Grass-fed beef and other grass-fed ruminants have around 40 times more MK-4 in the organ meats than grain-fed animals, for comparison.

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Reply #151 on: August 26, 2017, 09:36:04 PM
PALEO PITA BREAD {AIP}

JANUARY 14, 2015  BY  PREDOMINANTLY PALEO  (video here)

You might not believe this but I do not in fact live off paleo breads, pastas, and straight up carbs. Well, today I may have taste-tested myself into carb bliss. But so you know, I am driven to write these sorts of recipes, not so they can replace nutrient based foods, but so that deprivation can feel smaller and smaller until it doesn’t have to exist at all. People approach the grain free lifestyle differently. For some omitting the “bad stuff” is the best approach. For others, substitution provides more of a successful plan.  When I first went gluten free in 2008, I found a g-free sub for EVERYTHING. Oreos, bread, burritos, you name it. And to be truthful a lot of it was still garbage. But because I was so desperate to feel normal I indulged. There is a lot of debate about Paleo “junk food” (like breads and desserts) – that it defeats the purpose of eating Paleo in the first place.  We should be focused on organic bone broth and organ meats, not bread… right???! Well, here’s my two cents. If you are transitioning off of a fast food, TV dinner, Chinese take out based lifestyle, having a homemade Paleo Pita Bread might be the very thing that helps satisfy a craving without “oopsing” too many times. So when I think about the average person in our country and the diet they consume, I’d say eating a grain free pita is the not only the lesser of the evils, it ain’t all that bad to begin with…that said, you know this is not meant to take the place of kale or chicken liver. Kapish?

Ingredients:
2 teaspoons active dry yeast
1.5 cups warm water (around 100-105 degrees F)  You can start with 1 cup and work your way up – your dough should be claylike when you finish adding ingredients. Keep in mind tapioca flour is NOT the same as cassava flour. Also, different brands/batches will vary. I use Otto’s Naturals Brand and it ABSOLUTELY takes a full 1.5 cups of water to make this recipe work***
1 tablespoon honey or 100% maple syrup (for vegan option)
2 tablespoons avocado oil (or cooking fat of choice)
2 cups cassava flour
1 teaspoon sea salt

1. Preheat oven to 450
2. In a mixing bowl, combine water, yeast and honey and allow to sit for a couple of minutes
3. Add in flour, salt, and oil
4. Stir with a spoon and then kneed by hand until a large ball of dough is formed
5. Divide into approximately 6 equal portions
6. Take each portion, one at a time and make a ball
7. Wet hands and dampen the ball of dough
8. Next roll it out each ball of dough between two pieces of parchment paper (each pita should be about 5-6 inches in diameter), the water helps prevent the dough from having cracked edges. If it cracks, use your hands to seal it back together. Remove the top piece of parchment after rolling out before baking.
9. Bake pitas (as many as will fit on a baking sheet) for 5 minutes on each side or longer depending on preference of “pocket” or “dipping” pita.
10. Note: Cooking time and thickness variation will help determine end product. Thicker discs with shorter cooking time will yield more of a soft pita bread you can stuff. Thinner discs with longer cooking time will yield a slightly crispier version, perfect for dipping.
11. Note: If you prefer to use this as a pocket to stuff, cut the pitas in half soon after removing from the oven and then slice the pocket open while still warm.  Once they cool they are harder to slit open.



My variation: I added one tablespoon of whole ground psyllium husks so it would hold together better, and swapped a half cup of the cassava flour for a half cup of almond meal both for flavor and for looks.  Hey, looks are important! :-)  I also added 1/8 teaspoon of ground cinnamon.  Next time I'll probably double up on the salt, since I don't have high blood pressure.

Baking 5" diameter pitas for 7 minutes each side was about right for me.  For the second batch I turned on the broiler and tossed them back in for a minute per side to brown them.  Yep, they're excellent, just right for naan or a dipping pita.  I'd have to make them thicker if I wanted to use them as a pocket pita, but for dipping they're great!  At 5 inch diameter I don't think I could easily slit them open without cutting myself, as mine didn't rise as much as Jennifer's did.  Next time maybe I'll try baking soda and apple cider vinegar instead of the active dry yeast.  Yeast has always been VERY finicky for me.  One out of the six puffed up in the oven, but it deflated as soon as I turned it.

original article:
http://predominantlypaleo.com/paleo-pita-bread-aip/




edit: Not Paleo or AIP, but I'm making some macadamia nut Hummus at the moment.  As long as the (unroasted) nuts are soaked for 24 hours, the hormone disruptors are neutralized and they're safe to eat for those of us with endocrine problems.  Right now my nuts are soaking.  :facepalm:

Here's the recipe if you want it:  Low Carb Macadamia Nut Hummus -  332 KB


The hummus recipe worked out great!  By the time I was done I'd added an extra tablespoon of olive oil and 2 tablespoons of spring water.  The recipe as stated makes about 190 grams of hummus, around 6.7 ounces.  It's a lot of work for a small jar of hummus, but worth it for a quick Med fix.

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Reply #152 on: August 27, 2017, 03:02:15 AM

Here's the best source for MK-4 that I'd found.  They have two different versions, one with just 15mg MK-4 per capsule, and one with 15mg MK-4 + 60mcg MK-7.  Both versions should be taken 3 times per day (every 8 hours) as the half-life of MK-4 in the blood is only several hours; your body immediately starts scavenging it for use (that's a hint...)  MK-7 lasts for a couple of days.

https://supplements.relentlessimprovement.com/categories.aspx?Keyword=vitamin+k2

Note that the Japanese have some evidence that populations that eat Natto (high in MK-7) have a reduced risk of hip fracture compared to populations that don't eat Natto.  Natto is an utterly foul fermented version of soy beans that's disgustingly slimy and smells like an over-ripe food compost heap.  The version I linked above is NOT produced from soy.

The food that's highest in MK-4 is goose liver pâté.  It's a bit pricey, so I'd recommend the supplement above.  Grass-fed beef and other grass-fed ruminants have around 40 times more MK-4 in the organ meats than grain-fed animals, for comparison.

I've had Natto before and I LIKED it.  :emot_kiss:

Natto smells like strong cheese, like lindberger.  Not for everyone, but I love stinky cheese.

I found culture: https://www.culturesforhealth.com/mitoku-traditional-natto-spores.html

for just $12.99!

Gonna make me some Natto!
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Reply #153 on: August 28, 2017, 06:04:32 AM


Cooking with coconut milk: seems like every recipe I've made that uses coconut milk only needs a quarter cup to a cup, leaving a half or more.  I crack a can, then seal the top of the remainder with plastic wrap and a rubber band.  The next time I go to use the leftover a couple of weeks later, it's spoiled.  Here's a reasonable solution that I found at a tiny little farmer's market that carries some specialty foods:

 

You can make about 6 cups of coconut milk with this 5.25 oz. bag of powdered milk, using 3 tablespoons per cup.  You can also use it for non-dairy coffee creamer as long as the mild coconut smell isn't off-putting.  I like coconut, so not an issue for me.

At $3.50 USD per bag, that makes it about half the cost of 4 cans of coconut milk (the equivalent volume that the bag of mix makes).  I buy coconut milk at a Vietnamese grocery store where it's usually around $1.50 to $2 per can.  Your Mileage Will Vary at Whole Foods.  :o  The Vietnamese market had powdered Roxy (shown at top), but a quick scan of the ingredients puts Roxy on my 'forbidden' list.

The Native Forest brand is just powdered coconut milk: no guar gum, no sugar, no maltodextrin, no preservatives, no BPAs.  Alternate powdered brands (and many of the canned or boxed versions) typically have at least ONE forbidden ingredient in that list.

Another option (if you have the patience) is to make it yourself!  No additives but what you put in.


EDIT: easier method, http://freecoconutrecipes.com/homemade-coconut-milk-2/

And yep, I know you can freeze coconut milk or cream in ice cube trays, but my freezer is already cramped for space.



While I'm on the topic, if you saw my post a few weeks ago about the US Government passing around scare stories about the evil saturated fats in coconut, then read this:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5236032_The_fallacies_of_the_lipid_hypothesis

You can download the whole article at the top right of that page.  I wish my damned DOCTORS would read it!  I knew before that cholesterol didn't cause arteriosclerosis, but it's always nice to have someone PROVE it, and back it up with multiple studies.  I can make it short for you: HDL and LDL are *not* bad for you.  Get that idiocy right out of your head.  If you're taking statins to lower your cholesterol, STOP!  For >90% of you, the statins are doing worse things to you than anything your LDL is going to do.  Read the article if you're at all concerned about your heart health; it's only 5 pages long, and is in reasonably clear lay terms for the most part.

Another clear report for people, not doctors: 'The Cholesterol Myths' by Uffe Ravnskov
http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol/  (you can download the file from DropBox)

The ONLY people that should be taking statins are young to middle-age people that have already had a coronary event.  If your heart isn't in trouble, then don't take statins.  The statins will NOT reduce arterial plaque; in fact a couple of studies I'd looked at said that use of statins INCREASED arterial plaque.  Yeah, that would be a Bad Thing that the drug companies quietly sweep under the carpet.  Tell me you're surprised.
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Reply #154 on: September 03, 2017, 04:12:51 AM


I'm not an expert, so take all of this with a grain of salt.  That iodized crap that you've been buying at the grocery store is bad for you.  Any number of different studies have proven that processed salt raises blood pressure in sensitive people, and I suspect other nastiness due to the purified chemicals.  As it's missing Magnesium it also speeds dehydration.  A much healthier alternative is sea salt.  However, which one?  Pink?  Grey?  Tutti Frutti?  What's the REAL difference?

ElementCeltic GrayHimalayanReal Salt
Salt (Fine) Pink Salt(Fine)
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Chloride62.8959.160.07
Sodium31.4238.2637.9
Magnesium3.121.60.091
Aluminum<0.050.00006610.014
Silicon0.270.010.14
Phosphorous<0.0395<0.010.009
Sulfur1.171.240.26
Potassium0.640.350.1
Calcium0.410.40.49
Antimony<0.0074<0.0000010.00011
Arsenic<0.0001<0.000001undetected
Barium<0.00480.0001960.0016
Bromine0.04030.000210.0021
Cadmium<0.0035<0.0000010.000028
Cerium<0.0023<0.00000010.000076
Cesium<0.0059<0.00000010.00072
Chromium<0.00040.0000050.000016
Cobalt<0.00020.000060.000006
Copper<0.00010.0000560.000028
Dysprosium<0.0015<0.00040.000021
Erbium<0.0007<0.00000010.00013
Europium<0.0009<0.0003undetected
Gadolinium<0.0007<0.00000010.000061
Gallium<0.00010.00000010.00024
Germanium<0.00010.00000010.000027
Hafnium<0.0004<0.0000001undetected
Holmium<0.0006<0.0000001undetected
Indium<0.0044<0.00000010.000037
Iodine<0.0002<0.010.002
Iridium<0.0003<0.0002undetected
Iron0.02840.003890.052
Lanthanum<0.0034<0.00000010.000016
Lutetium<0.0005<0.00000010.000007
Manganese<0.00030.0000270.0003
Molybdenum<0.00070.0000010.000008
Neodymium<0.0014<0.0000001undetected
Nickel<0.00010.0000130.000007
Niobium<0.00060.00000010.000011
Osmium<0.0004<0.0000001undetected
Palladium<0.00190.0000001undetected
Praseodymium<0.0017<0.00000010.000011
Promethium<0.0011not listedundetected
Rhenium<0.0004<0.00025undetected
Rhodium<0.00160.0000001undetected
Rubidium<0.00070.0000040.00038
Ruthenium<0.0013not listed0.000007
Samarium<0.0010<0.00000010.00014
Scandium<0.0050.000000010.000018
Selenium<0.00020.0000050.000024
Silver<0.00250.00000310.00003
Strontium0.0050.00140.0053
Tantalum<0.0004not listed0.000097
Tellurium<0.0537not listed0.000017
Terbium<0.0013<0.0000001undetected
Thulium<0.0006<0.00000010.000007
Tin<0.0059<0.0000010.000013
Titanium<0.00150.000110.0021
Tungsten<0.0004not listed0.000012
Vanadium<0.00060.0000060.000018
Ytterbium<0.0005<0.00000010.000007
Yttrium<0.00040.00000010.000007
Zinc<0.00010.0002380.000093
Zirconium<0.00070.00000010.00014
Price/lb$10.07$4.50$16.52

I've tried all three.  Real Salt tastes pretty much like Celtic Salt but slightly sweeter, and Himalayan Salt is a bit saltier than the other two, more like bleached table salt but not as strong.  That's probably the higher Chloride content.  Celtic Salt is wet, and won't pour very easily from a shaker.  The other two are bone dry, but all three will clog a shaker when the humidity is up since they don't contain chemical anti-caking agents like Morton's & Diamond do.  Yeah, I'll deal with the humidity, keep your funny chemicals, thanks.  I might recommend a salt grinder to go along with your pepper grinder if you're going to use unsullied sea salt.

 

The dextrose is what's used to bond the Potassium Iodide to the salt crystals.

I didn't compare Hain's Sea Salt (either the 'natural' or Iodized versions) as I couldn't find a chemical assay on 'em.  Their salts aren't even mentioned on the corporate website (but the sugars are...)  Here's the ingredients of both Hain Pure Foods products:

 

Yeah.  Not so 'pure', as you can see.

Cooks that I've talked to all preferred either Diamond Crystal or some variant of Kosher salt (bigger grains, easier to work with).  Personally, I prefer the taste of sea salt.  I've been using it for ~20 years, and the other stuff tastes funny now.  For Iodine I use a seaweed supplement; it's better absorbed than Potassium Iodide since it has all of the other macronutrients.  Most purified chemicals like Potassium Iodide you only absorb about 10% of, since it's missing the companion macronutrients.  Without all of the puzzle pieces, it's an incomplete picture.

There's little signifiant difference between the 3 sea salts in the table above, so go with your  taste buds or wallet.  Celtic Gray has over 10 times the levels of trace elements of Himalayan, and about 5 times as much a Real Salt.  However, the trace levels are so low as to be almost nutritionally insignificant.  If you think you need trace elements, check out ConcenTrace Trace Mineral Drops,
https://traceminerals.com/concentrace-trace-mineral-drops/
It has a proportionately higher amount of trace minerals per serving than any of the sea salts since it's naturally low-sodium.  It won't jack your sodium levels to take the trace minerals.  I use it myself.  It has a SERIOUSLY strong taste, so you'll want to quickly chase the half-teaspoon with water or something else.



A friend is a nutritionist for a hospital.  A decade ago she asked me to STOP taking a daily multivitamin.  An unofficial study in one of her nutritionist magazines done by a group of MDs that all had Stage 4 or terminal cancer showed that the group eating a normal diet *plus* a multivitamin got worse FASTER than the group just eating a normal diet.  The multivitamin sped up the progression of the cancers, compared to the no-vitamin group.  There were enough MDs in the group to see a significant correlation, although too many uncontrolled variables of daily diet and no double-blinds to make it a JAMA-worthy study.

Off topic but amusing: her take on some of the buzz-words in the food industry is, "If it says SUPERFOOD, CLEANSE or DETOX, then I know the author has ZERO training in actual nutrition... they're just idiots with computers."  She's not a nutter, as she's the one that cured my arthritis 11 years ago.  With food.  ;-)

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Reply #155 on: September 04, 2017, 01:20:56 AM
I use himalayan pink salt. I wonder if that is any better?



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Reply #156 on: September 09, 2017, 08:01:29 PM

The good stuff comes from the mines that are about 5,000 feet deep inside the mountains.  There are OTHER mines that go after the shallow stuff near the surface.  Unless the box / bag / jar you bought specifies, it's probably the cheaper grade from the shallow mines.  There are 20 or 30 different mines & distributors for 'Himalayan Pink Sea Salt' from what I could tell.

I couldn't tell from the literature where the 'Himalayan' column I posted above came from, so I suspect it's from a cheaper mine rather than the 5,000 foot deep one.  The deep one is very pure, since it's been locked under the crust for millennia.  The shallower mines have contaminants from the rainfall that percolates down, so 'not as pure'.

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Reply #157 on: September 13, 2017, 05:33:54 AM

Dumb question: does ANYONE know where to get Argo Baking Powder?

I've tried a couple of pseudo-bread recipes using Clabber Girl (that's all I can find in stores other than Rumford) and I get ZERO damned rise in the oven.  If it's double-acting, it sure doesn't ACT like it.  My bread fell flatter than a fart at a funeral.

I remember my mom used Calumet, and I read somewhere else that it's one of the few true double-acting baking powders that don't contain an aluminum compound.  Bob's is the only other double-acting sans aluminum, but I can't find it, either.  So: Bob's, Calumet and Argo in Dallas... I'm at a loss to find any of the three.

Edit, Sept. 21 - I found Argo, Calumet and a few others at a Hispanic grocery store chain called 'Fiesta'.  The one near me didn't have crap, I had to find one in that chain in a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood to strike paydirt.  Oh, and I also found some good chorizo (Norte style, not Ciudad de Mexico style) in that same store, made without any nitrites.  I can finally have my chorizo con huevos again!  :D
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Reply #159 on: September 13, 2017, 03:25:58 PM

I remember my mom used Calumet...


Thanks for helping me recall fond memories of baking with my Mom when I was a girl.

We lived on a pretty tight budget, but baking powder was one are where she always "splurged." And she always used Calument. I don't know if it's the same today, but at the time (mid to late '80s) it came in a red can. When you popped off the plastic lid, there was a thing that covered half of the can's opening, so when you dipped the measuring spoon into the can, you could scrape it against the half-covering, providing for a perfect measurement.






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