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Reply #140 on: November 19, 2016, 06:53:30 PM
You do realize that all this is just one very large circle of nothing.
First off the Hillary bunch is protesting because their candidate did not get elected.
Well so be it, The election was lawful and followed all constitutional rules and laws.
Trump won, we only have to give him a chance to prove himself.
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You do realize that all of this is just one very large circle of nothing.
First off the Trump bunch is protesting because their candidate did not get elected.
Well so be it, The election was lawful and followed all constitutional rules and laws.
Hillary won, we only have to give her a chance to prove herself.
GET OVER It!!! , It's Done and Finished, Go Home.
No matter who won this election we would still be facing off with protests and accusations from either side (it just so happens Trump won) so we get to hear the Hillary supporters .....blah, blah, blah, If she had one we would get to hear the Trump supporters.....blah, blah, blah........This is a never ending circle.
If you don't even give Trump a chance, how right can you be, or how wrong can you be..??

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Reply #141 on: November 19, 2016, 07:11:41 PM
The differences is that the stuff said about Hillary is all innuendo and hearsay.  Trump's issues are all well documented.

With all the scandals Hillary and Willy have been involved in, one would have to be naive beyond the point of mental numbness to have not believed a few (several) of them.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/hillary-clinton-fired-for-lies-unethical-behavior/

Many of the present 'idolized' Democrats have given up their licenses to  practice law because of scandalis behavior, including  Wee Willy Clinton. Even Barack Obama voluntarily gave up his law license for supposedly 'fibbing' on his law exam.  


I decided to give an 'asshole' a chance to "decide the path of our lives", rather rather than felons, which at least the Clintons deserve to be.

My choice, my vote. Or, are Democrats to the point if disallowing opposition votes now to ANYONE for simply disagreeing with them?
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Reply #142 on: November 19, 2016, 07:19:16 PM
You do realize that all this is just one very large circle of nothing.
First off the Hillary bunch is protesting because their candidate did not get elected.
Well so be it, The election was lawful and followed all constitutional rules and laws.
Trump won, we only have to give him a chance to prove himself.
Flip side:
You do realize that all of this is just one very large circle of nothing.
First off the Trump bunch is protesting because their candidate did not get elected.
Well so be it, The election was lawful and followed all constitutional rules and laws.
Hillary won, we only have to give her a chance to prove herself.
GET OVER It!!! , It's Done and Finished, Go Home.
No matter who won this election we would still be facing off with protests and accusations from either side (it just so happens Trump won) so we get to hear the Hillary supporters .....blah, blah, blah, If she had one we would get to hear the Trump supporters.....blah, blah, blah........This is a never ending circle.
If you don't even give Trump a chance, how right can you be, or how wrong can you be..??

Love,
Liz


Finally, an intelligent comment.

"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth."


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Reply #143 on: November 19, 2016, 07:48:42 PM
Liz, he has his chance, and his appointments are not promising

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Reply #144 on: November 19, 2016, 08:28:58 PM
And still no opportunity given to folks who haven't even stepped foot in their roles YET!  Yep...goes to show there are some folks out there whose life revolves around just being angry at those not in step with their thinking.

Looking forward to the new administration.  Then we can cheer or complain when we have something to cheer or complain about.



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Reply #145 on: November 19, 2016, 08:55:54 PM

Yep...goes to show there are some folks out there whose life revolves around just being angry at those not in step with their thinking.



Yep...that pretty much explains things...

And come to New York City some time. There are thousands of people just like that.









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Reply #146 on: November 19, 2016, 09:44:26 PM
And still no opportunity given to folks who haven't even stepped foot in their roles YET!  Yep...goes to show there are some folks out there whose life revolves around just being angry at those not in step with their thinking.

Looking forward to the new administration.  Then we can cheer or complain when we have something to cheer or complain about.
choosing cabinet candidates is a prime example of Trump showing what he is going to do,. Sessions is not a good choice for Attorney General, unless he wants to show that he is fully behind White Lives Matter, and the rest of the Alt. Right.
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Reply #147 on: November 19, 2016, 09:49:32 PM
Trump has a chance and the first thing he does is start indicating that he is going to put the minorities in their place. We already know he wants to gut Dodd-Frank. The white working class/middle class who voted for him should realize that the protections against corporate malfeasance seems to be on his hit list. I have no high hopes for our economy under Trump. His main advisor has absolutely no understanding of economics.
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Reply #148 on: November 19, 2016, 11:03:03 PM
And still no opportunity given to folks who haven't even stepped foot in their roles YET!  Yep...goes to show there are some folks out there whose life revolves around just being angry at those not in step with their thinking.

Looking forward to the new administration.  Then we can cheer or complain when we have something to cheer or complain about.
choosing cabinet candidates is a prime example of Trump showing what he is going to do,. Sessions is not a good choice for Attorney General, unless he wants to show that he is fully behind White Lives Matter, and the rest of the Alt. Right.

And it's thinking and stating opinions like this that keep prejudges inflamed and bigotry going. 

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Reply #149 on: November 19, 2016, 11:06:51 PM
Trump has a chance and the first thing he does is start indicating that he is going to put the minorities in their place. We already know he wants to gut Dodd-Frank. The white working class/middle class who voted for him should realize that the protections against corporate malfeasance seems to be on his hit list. I have no high hopes for our economy under Trump. His main advisor has absolutely no understanding of economics.

A definite leftist statement.

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Reply #150 on: November 20, 2016, 01:28:45 AM
Really?

Bannon is such a stalwart conservative without any taint of the alt right. Sessions is such a civil rights supporter.

There is a big differences between putting my head in the sand and having my eyes open to the backgrounds of these people. Jesus, even the neo-cons have serious reservations over the people in Trumps camp.
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Reply #151 on: November 20, 2016, 01:33:40 AM
For some reason I think Charlie Brown had it made in life.

When the adults in his life said anything all he heard was "whah whah whah whah"  or some similar such noise.  This round table has degraded into the same construct.



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Reply #152 on: November 20, 2016, 06:49:23 AM
How rude!



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Reply #154 on: November 22, 2016, 02:29:56 AM

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Reply #155 on: November 25, 2016, 10:27:42 PM
From Dan Rather:

Now is a time when none of us can afford to remain seated or silent. We must all stand up to be counted.

HIstory will demand to know which side were you on. This is not a question of politics or party or even policy. This is a question about the very fundamentals of our beautiful experiment in a pluralistic democracy ruled by law.

When I see neo-Nazis raise their hands in terrifying solute, in public, in our nation's capital, I shudder in horror. When I see that action mildly rebuked by a boilerplate statement from the President-elect whom these bigots have praised, the anger in me grows. And when I see some in a pliant press turn that mild statement into what they call a denunciation I cannot hold back any longer.

Our Declaration of Independence bequeaths us our cherished foundational principle: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

These truths may be self-evident but they are not self-replicating. Each generation has to renew these vows. This nation was founded as an opposite pole to the capriciousness of an authoritarian monarch. We set up institutions like a free press and an independent court system to protect our fragile rights. We have survived through bloody spasms of a Civil War and a Civil Rights Movement to extend more of these rights to more of our citizens. But the direction of our ship of state has not always been one of progress. We interned Japanese Americans, Red Baited during the McCarthy era, and more. I feel the rip tide of regression once again swelling under my feet. But I intend to remain standing.

In normal times of a transition in our presidency between an incoming and outgoing administration of differing political parties, there is a certain amount of fretting on one side and gloating on the other. And the press usually takes a stance that the new administration at least deserves to have a chance to get started - a honeymoon period. But these are not normal times. This is not about tax policy, health care, or education - even though all those and more are so important. This is about racism, bigotry, intimidation and the specter of corruption.

But as I stand I do not despair, because I believe the vast majority of Americans stand with me. To all those in Congress of both political parties, to all those in the press, to religious and civic leaders around the country. your voices must be heard. I hope that the President-elect can learn to rise above this and see the dangers that are brewing. If he does and speaks forcibly, and with action, we should be ready to welcome his voice. But of course I am deeply worried that his selections of advisors and cabinet posts suggests otherwise.

To all of you I say, stay vigilant. The great Martin Luther King, Jr. knew that even as a minority, there was strength in numbers in fighting tyranny. Holding hands and marching forward, raising your voice above the din of complacency, can move mountains. And in this case, I believe there is a vast majority who wants to see this nation continue in tolerance and freedom. But it will require speaking. Engage in your civic government. Flood newsrooms or TV networks with your calls if you feel they are slipping into the normalization of extremism. Donate your time and money to causes that will fight to protect our liberties.

We are a great nation. We have survived deep challenges in our past. We can and will do so again. But we cannot be afraid to speak and act to ensure the future we want for our children and grandchildren.



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Reply #156 on: November 27, 2016, 03:15:33 PM
Trump cannot leave well enough alone. He has very little grace in victory.

If I recall, Gore never complained about the recount in Florida like this. He pursued legal recourse afforded him in the law.

Trump continues to disappoint me.

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Reply #157 on: November 27, 2016, 10:29:31 PM
Such behavior in anyone else would lead me to suspect that Trump is trying to hide something and has reason to fear a recount.  But with Trump, he is likely taking the recount personally.



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Reply #158 on: November 29, 2016, 04:41:32 PM
Because The Commander in Cheeto can pick and choose which parts of the constitution he ignores... particularly the 1st.




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Reply #159 on: November 29, 2016, 06:35:22 PM
Because The Commander in Cheeto can pick and choose which parts of the constitution he ignores... particularly the 1st.


I'm with you Gina!
Really?

Bannon is such a stalwart conservative without any taint of the alt right. Sessions is such a civil rights supporter.

There is a big differences between putting my head in the sand and having my eyes open to the backgrounds of these people. Jesus, even the neo-cons have serious reservations over the people in Trumps camp.

Sorry. The flag is a symbol of our country and our freedom. Have to go with Trump on that one. I would venture to say, a hell of a lot of citizens, regardless of party affiliation, feel the same way.
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