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Reply #120 on: November 15, 2016, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: Farmer Miles on November 15, 2016, 11:54:03 AM
Quote from: Sensualtravler on November 15, 2016, 06:25:36 AM
I stated the objections I had for disliking Obama policy's. I'm not writing a dissertation to explain them.

What you stated read like soundbites provided by your news source of choice to me. They were not personal and contained no specific examples. I don't expect you to respond the way I want you to just because I've asked, but you can't expect me to believe you're at all speaking from a position of knowledge and understanding if you give me no reason to.

That's your choice. I read news sources from many varying opinions and believe what I believe. I'm not here to qualify as an expert on anything, nor satisfy your curiosities about me. Ask someone whom you believe to be an expert, but I think you'll find most posts here are merely opinions and there are no experts here, regardless of what some people would tend to have you believe.

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Reply #121 on: November 16, 2016, 06:09:57 PM
Reports of troubling disarray in the Nacent Trump administration is troubling.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/trump-transition.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1&referer=http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-transition-team-in-disarray-he-says-very-organized

While getting started is always difficult this does not appear comforting or confidence building. To be truthful, I expect a great deal more humility feom the President and his administration if things are going roughly at the moment, not another dose of ego-centric bombast.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2016, 03:33:59 AM by Katiebee »

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Reply #122 on: November 17, 2016, 02:17:46 AM
Sensualtraveler, if you can't speak in your own words and have to parrot other sources than quite possibly you're the scarecrow and need to go see the Wizard of Oz. Watch him not get this which will prove me right.

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Reply #123 on: November 17, 2016, 07:36:05 AM
Opps. Damned!
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Reply #124 on: November 17, 2016, 01:13:32 PM
No, Sensualtraveler, he said scarecrow, not lion. He did not call you a coward. Review the literary allusion.

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Reply #125 on: November 17, 2016, 07:06:09 PM
Quote from: Katiebee on November 17, 2016, 01:13:32 PM
No, Sensualtraveler, he said scarecrow, not lion. He did not call you a coward. Review the literary allusion.

More of a illusion than a allusion in his context then.

My mistake. Been a long time since I've seen the movie.
No brain hmm"?
Even more of a pseudo bully than I gave him credit for then.

"The sum of the square roots of any two sides of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining side"

The scarecrow wasn't as dumb as some people thought.
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Reply #126 on: November 18, 2016, 01:03:49 AM
That was after he saw the Wizard.


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Reply #127 on: November 18, 2016, 02:59:46 AM


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Reply #128 on: November 18, 2016, 03:14:12 AM
Wrong wizard.

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Reply #129 on: November 18, 2016, 02:13:18 PM


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Reply #130 on: November 18, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
Quote from: Lois on November 18, 2016, 01:03:49 AM
That was after he saw the Wizard.

The wizard didn't have any actual powers though, so the scarecrow had the innate abilities before he visited him.
In my case I became scared after I saw the wicked witch Hillary.
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Reply #131 on: November 18, 2016, 03:00:41 PM
After viewing the lack of ethical character, the bullying, the demonstration of impulsive, immature, ego-centric, and poor decision making behavior by Trump, I can only conclude that those who support and voted for him are imcapable of assessing a critically flawed individual. Being blind to characteristics and behavior that you would not tolerate in a sales clerk and allow in a person about to assume such deadly and far reaching powers as the POTUS, makes me wonder about the sanity of those people.

I agree that Clinton is not the stellar candidate I would prefer, but I certainly do not want an immature, ego-centric bully with poor impulse control, who is thoroughly ignorant of the governmental process, is arrogant to a fault, and whose ethical lapses are documented and monumental, as president.

Considering Trump on those grounds, I fail to see what choice there was.

If you can say that Clinton is worse, I submit to you that Trump's history points to a sullen 12 year old with anger and issues and a lack of respect for others, who thinks he can act like a third world dictator.

If you think that is ok, then all hope for our country is lost.
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Reply #132 on: November 19, 2016, 12:33:45 AM
If you picked Clinton as the lesser of two evils you still, by definition voted for an evil.  Did you consider your sense of integrity and give it up?  Or did you vote for another candidate that at least had a sense of proper decorum?


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Reply #133 on: November 19, 2016, 02:16:57 AM
Clinton understands the rule of law, and honors the. She is also more thoughtful about policies. I do not agree with someone of their decisions, and her personal style is less than charismatic and inspiring. Other than that I trust her not to start a war, not to spend money on boondoggles. And to pick and listen to competent advisors.

Bannon has an itch to spend lots of money on projects that are not going to produce the effect wenwant in out economy. He doesn't know what he is doing. And this is a major advisor of Teump, who also doesn't know what he is doing.

So yes, I voted wisely and for the best candidate, and maintained a personal sense of integrity.


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Reply #134 on: November 19, 2016, 07:04:36 AM
Quote from: Katiebee on November 18, 2016, 03:00:41 PM
After viewing the lack of ethical character, the bullying, the demonstration of impulsive, immature, ego-centric, and poor decision making behavior by Trump, I can only conclude that those who support and voted for him are imcapable of assessing a critically flawed individual. Being blind to characteristics and behavior that you would not tolerate in a sales clerk and allow in a person about to assume such deadly and far reaching powers as the POTUS, makes me wonder about the sanity of those people.

I agree that Clinton is not the stellar candidate I would prefer, but I certainly do not want an immature, ego-centric bully with poor impulse control, who is thoroughly ignorant of the governmental process, is arrogant to a fault, and whose ethical lapses are documented and monumental, as president.

Considering Trump on those grounds, I fail to see what choice there was.

If you can say that Clinton is worse, I submit to you that Trump's history points to a sullen 12 year old with anger and issues and a lack of respect for others, who thinks he can act like a third world dictator.

If you think that is ok, then all hope for our country is lost.

All said and done, less of the American people trusted Clinton than Trump. It couldn't be because of the numerous scandles she and Willy have been involved in since almost the moment they came into public life, could it? Even (particularly) associates admit she has a very vile and foul mouth, and almost impossible to work with, let alone like.

"After viewing the lack of ethical character, the bullying, the demonstration of impulsive, immature, ego-centric, and poor decision making behavior by Hillary, I can only conclude that those who support and voted for her are imcapable of assessing a critically flawed individual. Being blind to characteristics and behavior that you would not tolerate in a sales clerk and allow in a person about to assume such deadly and far reaching powers as the POTUS, makes me wonder about the sanity of those people."

I looked at those same characteristics in Hillary and came to a similar decision about her as you did Trump

It remain to be seen yet whose integrity has been compromised.
If we both followed our consciences, neither.
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Reply #135 on: November 19, 2016, 10:06:33 AM
The differences is that the stuff said about Hillary is all innuendo and hearsay.  Trump's issues are all well documented.


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Reply #136 on: November 19, 2016, 11:45:42 AM
So you did vote for evil, regardless of integrity. 

There were other choices to make to include not voting for any of the candidates.  That is a major problem with our current two party system (well two major parties).  If both put up garbage for candidates folks don't know to go anywhere else to "eat" so they will eat the garbage put before them and then try to justify their choice of garbage.  Still it is garbage!

And to paraphrase Clinton:  "What does it matter at this point?"
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Reply #137 on: November 19, 2016, 02:36:33 PM
 It matters because it decides  the path of our lives.

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Reply #138 on: November 19, 2016, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: Katiebee on November 19, 2016, 02:36:33 PM
It matters because it decides  the path of our lives.

A wise old Machine politician once said that all politics are local.  Why I rarely sweat national politics.

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Reply #139 on: November 19, 2016, 06:40:24 PM
OK, lets ensure I read this right.

It matters because it involves our lives.  Yet you chose, purposely chose, to vote for a lesser of two evils (an evil) because your life matters.  And then you get into a strongly worded discussion insulting those who may have voted opposite you (or in one case I know for sure did not eat the garbage provided by the two party system) because, as I see it, you must justify voting for the evil.

I don't see integrity there at all if "lives matter"   And again as Madam Secretary put it when questioned about the deaths of Americans (under her watch) in Libya  "What does it matter at this point?"

Our lives do get affected by the politicians.  The guy hasn't even taken office yet and already the "cupcakes" are raising a stink because their candidate did not win.  What ever happened to discussion on the issues without insulting the other party.  I see now why our country is so divided and antagonistic. 

No integrity, gotta be all my way or I am going to insult all those around me and riot in the streets.   

Ah...yep my life (our lives) are affected by that.


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