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Reply #20 on: February 10, 2016, 11:45:11 AM
I'm thinking about challenging myself to write a story that is 100% dialog, no narration allowed. I'm not suggesting it would be a literary masterpiece, but I am curious if I could pull it off and at least make it readable and tell a complete story.

I think you should give it a try, coldwater.  I would be interested in both the story you come up with and the challenges and obstacles you encountered along the way. Good luck!



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Reply #21 on: February 13, 2016, 05:54:18 AM
OK, I did it.  Go read "Walter's Birthday" and see what you think.  It was an interesting experiment.  The approach doesn't lend itself to having a detailed plot.  Still, I don't think it came out too bad.



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Reply #22 on: February 13, 2016, 06:21:57 AM
One of the books I am currently reading (well I say currently, when my Kindle showed 40% I switched, and that was just before Christmas so I'm overdue going back to it) is Venus In Furs, and while it isn't 100% dialogue, it's closer than just about anything else I've ever read.  There are some speeches which take more than an entire page.  The last few per cent of anything is always the hardest, but based on that book I'm sure a totally dialogue book is possible.



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Reply #23 on: February 13, 2016, 09:11:04 AM
I saw the movie version of Venus in Furs, a Polanski film, starring his wife as female lead (only female in the cast, with only one male for her foil), which was damn fine entertainment. As I recall, the script purported to come from some much older text, going back like a couple hundred years.

Of course, as film, the pictures were worth a thousand words apiece, apart from any dialog, so the film is at the same time much more and much less than what the plain text would be like.

Plus plus plus the vocal intonations provide so much of what is missing in text. In dialogue text you get almost zero clues as to intonation, inflection, pauses, pace, facial expression, eye-speak, aura, body language--all of which are a major part of human communication.

The positive side of this is that all these details are left to the reader's imagination, which can be a good thing if the reader has his own ideas of how the scene should play out to best effect. And after all, isn't it the objective with prose to stimulate the imagination?

So what am I saying? I think I'm saying that two bodies, male and female, both in heat, alone together, are the best part of life. To be able to evoke that magic through the limitations of the written word is high art. That's why we should write.

I remember my astonishment, many years ago, while still a schoolboy, when I pondered the fact that squiggles of ink on paper, set down a hundred years ago halfway around the world, could bring a tear to the eye, cause juices to flow or a convulsion to the genital apparatus, not at random but as an intended effect, artfully conceived, cast abroad on the world to spread everywhere, like seed on the wind, looking for fertile minds in which to germinate.
 
As long as there are humans who can read your language, there is as close as you can come to immortality. Plus, of course, making babies.



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Reply #24 on: February 19, 2016, 07:40:39 AM
Herschel:  The first sentence of your final paragraph is a distillation of the message of Shakespeare's Eighteenth Sonnet, one of his most moving works, in which he expressed the measure of his love by writing the words with the intent to keep his beloved alive forever through them.



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Reply #25 on: February 19, 2016, 03:55:22 PM
I remember that sonnet. I was never a serious student of Shakespeare, although I did read most, possibly all his sonnets. Anyway that one is certainly one of his big hits.

He wrote at least one other in which he pleaded to his love the reason why they should make a baby together, as a way toward the other kind of immortality. I did not have these sonnets consciously in mind in making my post, but who knows what may have been going on unconsciously? We are supposed to absorb these thoughts, are we not? So maybe that's what happened here.

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Reply #26 on: February 20, 2016, 03:31:31 PM
Well, I managed to complete my story with the aforementioned puking girl, somehow finding a path back to eroticism (hopefully). It also includes the aforementioned sadistic scene (again, Liz, your fault for dragging me there ;D).  See "Safe Harbor".  I couldn't quite figure out the right tags, because of the dark scene.  I eventually settled on adding BDSM, but I am not sure that is really giving the right expectations.

Yes, this is a shameless plug for readers (at least I admit it).



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Reply #27 on: February 20, 2016, 04:43:40 PM
Well, I managed to complete my story with the aforementioned puking girl, somehow finding a path back to eroticism (hopefully). It also includes the aforementioned sadistic scene (again, Liz, your fault for dragging me there ;D).  See "Safe Harbor".  I couldn't quite figure out the right tags, because of the dark scene.  I eventually settled on adding BDSM, but I am not sure that is really giving the right expectations.

Yes, this is a shameless plug for readers (at least I admit it).

 :D
LOL....I love getting dragged around.......!!!!!!!!!!
(well sorta)......

Love,
Liz



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Reply #28 on: February 21, 2016, 06:22:17 AM
As long as it's not by a horse...

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Then it's good enough for me" - Adam Ant


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Reply #29 on: February 22, 2016, 03:31:53 AM
...and the well is now dry.

I had a lot of idle time on my hands where I couldn't do anything else (driving and waiting in the car), so I was trying to come up with an idea for my next story and came up with... nothing. 

Up until now, as soon as I thought about starting a new one, an idea would come forward.

I guess it was unrealistic to expect that to continue.



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Reply #30 on: February 22, 2016, 05:04:35 AM
Not all story ideas come from within. I have mentions this many times and possibly in this thread, most of my stories are inspired unexpectedly by what I find during Google Image Searches. I'll see an image and either an idea for a scene in a story comes to me or possibly even a whole story.
So try looking outward for your next story idea.

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Reply #31 on: March 11, 2016, 12:07:09 AM
It usually starts with an inspiration, and then some brainstorming of the rough direction the story is going in. Then I just start writing and revise as I see fit

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Reply #32 on: July 08, 2018, 02:08:03 PM
Here is my Adult Erotic Literature writing process:

I keep a collection of story ideas, usually just a working title on a MS Word document with a brief outline of the concept/story summary, perhaps a line or two of dialog and/or a short paragraph. I update it occasionally if think of something to add to the plot or characters.
 
Once one story is done, I view my collection to see which one interests me to work on next. I generally try to have a beginning, middle and end before I get too far into the story, or even a synopsis of each chapter.  Then I write it as I have time. Usually I focus on only one story at a time, sometimes two. Of course, the story can easily go off on a tangent, and I have to reel it back to my original intent, or change my mind about where the story should go next and still come up with a proper conclusion.

I keep all the unused  bits and pieces of the story at the end of the document, using, expanding or discarding the ideas as I see fit. I always copy them to the next Word document/chapter, until the entire story is complete.

I often re-read/edit what I have written for spelling, punctuation, clarity and arousal. Typically I do this at the start another writing session; it also reminds me of the characters and the plot line. I always review again after posting - seeing the words in a different setting/format lets me find the errors easier.

Of course, I find that writing in an aroused state helps to infuse the story with added sexual excitement,  a sense of 'urgency' and better descriptions of the sexual arousal the characters are feeling.

Taking a Viagra and writing for longer than four hours (without seeking medical attention) helps too.

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Reply #33 on: July 08, 2018, 04:27:51 PM
I need to.  If I don't write, I go even more insane.  I don't know how to not write any more. 

Writing erotica is a coping mechanism, I picked up decades ago. 



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Reply #34 on: July 08, 2018, 06:23:19 PM

Of course, I find that writing in an aroused state helps to infuse the story with added sexual excitement,  a sense of 'urgency' and better descriptions of the sexual arousal the characters are feeling.


:)

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 Like your quote, I am usually hard during writing also, however I just spin out a yarn that started earlier in the day. Perhaps it was something that happened that wasn't even sexual, a conversation in a checkout lineup, seeing someone who turned you on, be it a nice ass, short skirt, nice smile... I can usually spin out a story on something as innocent as a business phone conversation, my mind just starts to work everything into something sexual, kinda always has.
 I have never tried to write like some of the great writers do in here, I don't do beginning middle end, no spread sheets.
  I usually like to start with, "It was a dark and stormy night..."



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Reply #35 on: July 08, 2018, 08:14:38 PM
Ah, one of my favorite Snoopy cartoons;
It was a dark and stormy night.
Suddenly, a shot rang out. A door slammed. The maid screamed.
Suddenly, a pirate ship appeared on the horizon!
While millions of people were starving, the king lived in luxury.
Meanwhile, on a small farm in Kansas, a boy was growing up.
Part II.
"In part II I tie all of this together."

“Good writing is supposed to evoke sensation in the reader—not the fact that it is raining, but the feeling of being rained upon.”
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Reply #36 on: July 08, 2018, 08:20:52 PM
Ah, one of my favorite Snoopy cartoons;
It was a dark and stormy night.
Suddenly, a shot rang out. A door slammed. The maid screamed.
Suddenly, a pirate ship appeared on the horizon!
While millions of people were starving, the king lived in luxury.
Meanwhile, on a small farm in Kansas, a boy was growing up.
Part II.
"In part II I tie all of this together."

ROFL!  Wow, this is starting to overlap into the thread about bad lines in Erotic stories.  (Or fiction in general.)  I have to say, great mix of genre' there.  Honestly, it just reflects someone who can't come up with anything more original.  (Which isn't to say that originality isn't over-rated.  Especially for stroke-stories.)

"A beginning is a very delicate time..."

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Reply #37 on: July 08, 2018, 08:38:34 PM
Ah, one of my favorite Snoopy cartoons;
It was a dark and stormy night.
Suddenly, a shot rang out. A door slammed. The maid screamed.
Suddenly, a pirate ship appeared on the horizon!
While millions of people were starving, the king lived in luxury.
Meanwhile, on a small farm in Kansas, a boy was growing up.
Part II.
"In part II I tie all of this together."

Well shit. I figured I was th only one who perhaps remembered Mr Schultz paintin Snoopy writin them lines. LMAO and hearty cheers to a great shared memory



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Reply #38 on: July 30, 2018, 12:59:23 AM
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Reply #39 on: February 28, 2019, 05:15:58 PM
First I need to know what the pairing will be, what the genders and ages and so on of the characters will be. Do I want to write man on woman (boring), futa on woman (now you're getting somewhere), futa loli on either a trappy little shota or her own futa sister (ding ding ding I have my current winners!)? Then I think about the sex acts. Mostly sex acts in stories are just the three standards - oral, anal, and vaginal, and they're all great, but it can be kind of predictable. I like variety in my smut, give me an honest attempt at a good footjob, titty fuck, armpit job, some hotdoggging, a discrete or not so discrete handjob, something different! I find that when I have my pairing thought out a lot of possible sex scenes I'd like to see between them kind of present themselves, and then very often when I know what kind of sex scenes I'm going to write are story beats and ideas present themselves. Getting the sex down in my head actually helps the larger creative process for me.

And then after that, deciding what chapters are going to contain which sex scenes, I kind of plot everything else out from there the usual way I guess, figuring out the characters and their motivations outside of sex. If you have the right characters pinned down the right way, the plot and sex kind of organically flow from there. So even though the sex is plotted out first, everything that follows after in my writing is mostly character driven rather than plot driven. Of course I never have trouble making the sex scenes I want feel character driven, because all my characters are pretty sex driven - this is porn after all.