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Reply #3860 on: March 03, 2018, 08:48:56 AM
I find it fascinating that despite all the fears on the right he Obama was coming to take their guns, it didn’t happen, it wasn’t even contemplated.

However, Trump is not only coming for your guns, he’s coming to take your internet away as well.


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Reply #3861 on: March 04, 2018, 01:08:33 AM
‘Pure madness’: Dark days inside the White House as Trump shocks and rages

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Inside the White House, aides over the past week have described an air of anxiety and volatility — with an uncontrollable commander in chief at its center.

These are the darkest days in at least half a year, they say, and they worry just how much farther President Trump and his administration may plunge into unrest and malaise before they start to recover. As one official put it: “We haven’t bottomed out.”

Trump is now a president in transition, at times angry and increasingly isolated. He fumes in private that just about every time he looks up at a television screen, the cable news headlines are trumpeting yet another scandal. He voices frustration that son-in-law Jared Kushner has few on-air defenders. He revives old grudges. And he confides to friends that he is uncertain about whom to trust.

Trump’s closest West Wing confidante, Hope Hicks — the communications director who often acted as a de facto Oval Office therapist — announced her resignation last week, leaving behind a team the president views more as paid staff than surrogate family. So concerned are those around Trump that some of the president’s oldest friends have been urging one another to be in touch — the sort of familiar contacts that often lift his spirits.

In an unorthodox presidency in which emotion, impulse and ego often drive events, Trump’s ominous moods manifested themselves last week in his zigzagging positions on gun control; his shock trade war that jolted markets and was opposed by Republican leaders and many in his own administration; and his roiling feud of playground insults with Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Some of Trump’s advisers say the president is not all doom and gloom, however. He has been pleased with the news coverage of his role in the gun debate and lighthearted moments have leavened his days, such as a recent huddle with staff to prepare his comedic routine for the Gridiron, a Saturday night dinner with Washington officials and journalists.

Still, Trump’s friends are increasingly concerned about his well-being, worried that the president’s obsession with cable commentary and perceived slights is taking a toll on the 71-year-old. “Pure madness,” lamented one exasperated ally.

Retired four-star Army general Barry McCaffrey said the American people — and Congress especially — should be alarmed.

“I think the president is starting to wobble in his emotional stability and this is not going to end well,” McCaffrey said. “Trump’s judgment is fundamentally flawed, and the more pressure put on him and the more isolated he becomes, I think, his ability to do harm is going to increase.”

This portrait of Trump at a moment of crisis just over a year after taking office is based on interviews with 22 White House officials, friends and advisers to the president and other administration allies, most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly discuss Trump’s state of mind.

The tumult comes as special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russia’s 2016 election interference and the president’s possible obstruction of justice has intensified. Meanwhile, Kushner, a White House senior adviser, was stripped last week of his access to the nation’s top secrets amid increasing public scrutiny of his foreign contacts and of his mixing of business and government work.

Trump has been asking people close to him whether they think Kushner or his company has done anything wrong, according to a senior administration official. Two advisers said the president repeatedly tells aides that the Russia investigation will not ensnare him — even as it ensnares others around him — and that he thinks the American people are finally starting to conclude that the Democrats, as opposed to his campaign, colluded with the Russians.

Still, the developments have delivered one negative headline after another, leading Trump to lose his cool — especially in the evenings and early mornings, when he often is most isolated, according to advisers.

For instance, aides said, Trump seethed with anger last Wednesday night over cable news coverage of a photo, obtained by Axios, showing Sessions at dinner with Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, who oversees the Russia investigation, and another top Justice Department prosecutor. The outing was described in news reports as amounting to an act of solidarity after Trump had attacked Sessions in a tweet that morning.

The next morning, Trump was still raging about the photo, venting to friends and allies about a dinner he viewed as an intentional show of disloyalty.

Trump has long been furious with Sessions for recusing himself from oversight of the Russia probe, and privately mocks him as “Mr. Magoo,” an elderly and bumbling cartoon character. But this past week the president was irate that his attorney general had asked the Justice Department’s inspector general — as opposed to criminal prosecutors — to investigate alleged misdeeds by the FBI in obtaining surveillance warrants.

On Friday morning, Trump targeted his ire elsewhere. About an hour after Fox News Channel aired a segment about comedian Alec Baldwin saying he had tired of impersonating Trump on NBC’s “Saturday Night Live,” Trump lit into Baldwin on Twitter, initially misspelling his first name. “It was agony for those who were forced to watch,” the president wrote at 5:42 a.m.

“Trump’s fundamentally distorted personality — which at its core is chaotic, volatile and transgressive — when combined with the powers of the presidency had to end poorly,” said Peter Wehner, a veteran of the three previous Republican administrations and a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. “What we’re now seeing is the radiating effects of that, and it’s enveloped him, his White House, his family and his friends.”

Trump jetted Friday to his favorite refuge, his private Mar-a-Lago Club in South Florida, where he dined on the gilded patio with old friends — former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani and wife Judith and Blackstone Group chairman Stephen A. Schwarzman, among others. Trump tried to convince his companions that trade tariffs were more popular than they think, according to someone with knowledge of their conversation.

Shortly after 8 a.m. Saturday, he rolled up to the Trump International Golf Course for a sunny, 70-degree morning on the greens. Rather than firing off a flurry of angry messages as on other recent weekend mornings, the president tweeted only, “Happy National Anthem Day!” But then shortly after noon, once he returned to Mar-a-Lago from the golf course, Trump tweeted that the mainstream media has “gone CRAZY!”

Christopher Ruddy, the chief executive of Newsmax and a Trump friend, said, “I’m bewildered when I see these reports that he’s in turmoil. Every time I speak to him he seems more relaxed and in control than ever. He seems pretty optimistic about how things are shaping up.”

Trump is testing the patience of his own staff, some of whom think he is not listening to their advice. White House counsel Donald McGahn and national economic council director Gary Cohn have been especially frustrated, according to other advisers.

The situation seems to be grating as well on White House chief of staff John F. Kelly, who had been on the ropes over his handling of domestic-abuse allegations against former staff secretary Rob Porter but who now appears on firmer footing. Talking last week about his move from being homeland security secretary to the West Wing, Kelly quipped, “God punished me.”

Last Friday, Kelly tried to explain anew the timeline of Porter’s dismissal with a group of reporters — an unprompted move that annoyed and confused some White House staffers, who thought they were finally moving past the controversy that had consumed much of February.

“Morale is the worst it’s ever been,” said a Republican strategist in frequent contact with White House staff. “Nobody knows what to expect.”

Since Trump entered presidential politics three years ago, Hicks has been his stabilizing constant, tending his moods and whims in addition to managing his image. Within the president’s orbit, many wonder whether Trump has fully absorbed the impact of Hicks’s upcoming departure.

Trump told one friend that Hicks was a great young woman, who, after three intense years, was ready to do her own thing. He told this friend that he recognized the White House was full of “tough hombres,” according to someone briefed on the conversation.

But other confidants said the president feels abandoned and alone — not angry with Hicks, but frustrated by the circumstance. Coupled with last fall’s departure of longtime bodyguard Keith Schiller, Trump will have few pure loyalists remaining.

“Losing people is too much of a story for the president,” said oil investor Dan K. Eberhart, a Trump supporter and a Republican National Committee fundraiser. “It just seems like it’s imploding . . . Trump had momentum with tax reform, the State of the Union speech. He should try to keep that going.”

On Capitol Hill, lawmakers were left in varying states of consternation by Trump’s whipsaw on guns. He suggested publicly last Wednesday that he favored tougher background checks and would forgo due process in taking away guns from the mentally ill, but then sent opposite signals after huddling with National Rifle Association lobbyists the next night.

Trump’s aides said his vacillation was a function of the controlled chaos the president likes to sow. Trump recently has come to favor opening his meetings to the media — “It’s like his own TV show,” said one adviser — where he often chews over outlandish ideas, plays to the assembled press and talks up bipartisan consensus, even if it never leads to actual policy.

Trump doesn’t see guns through the traditional prism of left vs. right, but rather as a Manhattan business developer, said one senior administration official, adding that he has told staff that he doesn’t understand why people need assault rifles.

The president’s decision last Thursday to announce steep new tariffs on aluminum and steel — and gleefully tout a possible trade war — caught almost his entire team, including some of his top trade advisers, by surprise.

Earlier in the week, Cohn was telling people he was going to continue stalling Trump on tariffs. He described the tariffs as “obviously stupid,” in the recollection of one person who spoke to him.

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Reply #3863 on: March 04, 2018, 10:02:13 PM
Good thing he is charged with control over our Environment, where his former opinions matter little, toward accomplishing his portfolio duties for the nation.

EPA Chief Doubts Evolution and Promotes Gay Marriage Ban in Unearthed Recordings

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Reply #3864 on: March 04, 2018, 10:47:53 PM
Did you ever get the feeling that someone left the doors opened at the "nut house" and some how all the nuts got put into government offices.

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Reply #3865 on: March 05, 2018, 06:17:38 AM
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Reply #3866 on: March 05, 2018, 06:23:59 AM
Good thing he is charged with control over our Environment, where his former opinions matter little, toward accomplishing his portfolio duties for the nation.

EPA Chief Doubts Evolution and Promotes Gay Marriage Ban in Unearthed Recordings

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/03/04/epa-chief-doubts-evolution-and-promotes-gay-marriage-ban-in-unearthed-recordings/



His lack of scientific grounding makes him incompetent to head an agency that deals in science.

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Reply #3867 on: March 05, 2018, 08:37:51 AM
  Actually, the Secretary was confirmed by the U.S. Senate, and is doing his job well, bringing some necessary order it seems to me. I find it refreshing, and better trust the United States will benefit from decisions made there.

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Reply #3868 on: March 05, 2018, 09:05:09 AM
Good thing he is charged with control over our Environment, where his former opinions matter little, toward accomplishing his portfolio duties for the nation.

EPA Chief Doubts Evolution and Promotes Gay Marriage Ban in Unearthed Recordings

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/03/04/epa-chief-doubts-evolution-and-promotes-gay-marriage-ban-in-unearthed-recordings/



His lack of scientific grounding makes him incompetent to head an agency that deals in science.

Well, it's not like he was in charge of HUD and tried buying a $31,000 dining room set using government money.

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Reply #3869 on: March 05, 2018, 10:12:20 AM

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Reply #3870 on: March 05, 2018, 10:25:58 AM

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Reply #3871 on: March 05, 2018, 07:34:39 PM
Trump Lawyer’s Payment to Porn Star Was Reported as Suspicious by Bank

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After Mr. Trump’s victory, Mr. Cohen complained to friends that he had yet to be reimbursed for the payment to Ms. Clifford, the people said.

Nicky Santoro { as narrator}: The only trouble was, Piscano was a disaster. This guy could fuck up a cup of coffee.

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Reply #3872 on: March 06, 2018, 07:48:50 PM
Trump Admin removing regulations that paid for themselves
Typical for this administrations versin of conservative values.

First they reduce revenue and increase spending, then they eliminate regulations that have a tangible return on invenstment. In other words they return more than they cost.

Typical for people who can’t do math, or just want to screw everyone who isn’t in their economic and social class.
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Reply #3873 on: March 07, 2018, 12:11:45 AM

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Reply #3874 on: March 07, 2018, 12:13:44 AM

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Reply #3875 on: March 07, 2018, 12:15:16 AM
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Reply #3876 on: March 07, 2018, 03:01:21 AM
Trump disrespects the presidency. So I don’t respect him.

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What respect — if any — is due President Trump?

I ask that because, ever since his State of the Union speech, I’ve been wondering if congressional Democrats were out of line when dozens of them refused to stand for him as he entered the chamber. My Post colleague, the enviably talented Dana Milbank, took the Democrats to task for their behavior. He said the office of the presidency, if not the man, deserves our respect.

I respectfully disagree. In the first place, I am unable to separate the man from the office. Trump certainly hasn’t. He has shown no respect for the presidency, not a nod of homage to the aura of his predecessors, some of whom he must have heard about. He has used foul language in describing certain emerging nations, wakes in the morning engorged with brattiness and tweets denunciations of almost anyone. In an instant abdication of all dignity, Trump began his presidency with a squalid visit to CIA headquarters, where he stood before a memorial for the fallen ranting about the size of his inaugural’s crowd. It was an epic act of civic sacrilege.

Trump is frequently dismissive of his own aides. This, though, is their own affair. They are men and women who seemingly lack pride or, in an act of self-abnegation not seen since Henry II submitted to flagellation for the murder of Thomas Becket, choose to suffer for their own foolish actions. They hitched their wagons to a star, but he was really a one-man black hole who swallows truth. Only lies peek out — white lies, black lies — a cosmos of deceit. His aides are a tawdry group, high on their own ego, low on their own self-esteem.

In assessing what respect Trump is owed, it is not the man I consider but his victims. All presidents have victims, of course. The lives of countless people, both here and abroad, were ruined or ended by George W. Bush’s Iraq War. The issue with Trump, however, is not over policy. It is about empathy. Bush himself was wrong about so much, but he is a courteous man who treated everyone with dignity. That is not the case with Trump. With enemies or mere critics, he picks at their scabs.

This, in fact, is Trump’s true talent, honed during his years as the host of “The Apprentice.” At a glance, he sizes up an opponent. “Crazy Bernie, “Crooked Hillary,” “Little Marco,” “Lyin’ Ted,” “Low-energy Jeb,” “Pocahontas” and now “Mister Magoo” for Attorney General Jeff Sessions. These are not mere nicknames; they are stinging tags that validate what the public is beginning to think — half-realized thoughts that Trump cements into judgments.

The politicians, however, can take care of themselves. It is Trump’s other victims that I have in mind when I consider if the man deserves any show of respect. Should I stand for a president who has called Mexican immigrants criminals? If I do, does it show respect for some abstraction called the office of the president or a lack of respect for the actuality of the Mexican people?

Similarly, do we ignore how Trump mocked the physical disability of a New York Times reporter or attacked Gold Star parents Khizr and Ghazala Khan? What about the Charlottesville protesters who Trump equated to neo-Nazis? I envision all these people feeling abandoned when Trump is cheered.

Trump himself is largely immune to criticism. Not showing him respect — as opposed to being disrespectful — is not going to change his behavior or prompt him to show remorse. But, as opposed to him, his aides are stalked by their former selves.

Whenever they accompany Trump anywhere, they should feel the contempt they have diligently earned by putting themselves at the service of a man who will sooner or later reward their stupidity with disdain. These are people who, in many cases, knew Trump was hugely unsuited for the presidency but let their demented hatred of Hillary Clinton and their personal greed blind them to the consequences. When they accompany Trump, they should feel the contempt Trump himself feels for people he’s bought. They are bimbos in Brooks Brothers suits.

There will be a presidency after Trump. With any luck, the next president will restore the dignity of the office, not merely with appropriate ceremony, but by acknowledging the honor and obligation of precedence. But until that happens, Trump gives us no choice. At the next state of the union speech, I’d like to see even more members rise to the occasion — by keeping their seats.

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Reply #3878 on: March 07, 2018, 06:31:00 PM
No one ever said Trump was bright enough to do more than tie his own shoes.

“Who knew health care was so complicated?”

That quote from Trump can be applied to the economy and trade.

Remember, Trump has all the best words.

But then, so do a room full of chimpanzees banging away on typewriters.
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Reply #3879 on: March 07, 2018, 08:39:05 PM
No one ever said Trump was bright enough to do more than tie his own shows.

“Who knew health care was so complicated?”

That quote from Trump can be applied to the economy and trade.

Remember, Trump has all the best words.

But then, so do a room full of chimpanzees banging away on typewriters.

Yes.....But the difference is The Chimpanzees might actually accomplish something useful.
 :emot_laughing:  ;D  :facepalm:

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