The Trump thread: All things Donald

[_priapism]

My son is traveling to Tanzania this summer on an education mission.  Fuck Trump for undermining their efforts and endangering the safety of all who visit “shithole” countries.  Time to place him in one, and let everyone empty their bowels on his spray tan and combover orange hair.  Really, fuck him.

[Athos_131]

Sara is just an idiot......
I just hope she doesn't actually believe the crap she spews at those press conferences. I actually feel sorry for her, when Trump leaves office, she not only will not have a job (well maybe at Fox) but she will be the laughing stock of the news / press media (most likely untouchable to any news station that has a decent reputation).

She didn't have to take the job. 

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[Jed_]

Sara is just an idiot......
I just hope she doesn't actually believe the crap she spews at those press conferences. I actually feel sorry for her, when Trump leaves office, she not only will not have a job (well maybe at Fox) but she will be the laughing stock of the news / press media (most likely untouchable to any news station that has a decent reputation).

She didn't have to take the job.  

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She did it for daddy Huckabee.

[Athos_131]

Eric Trump charity paid Trump Organization companies $150K during election

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[Northwest]

This article is worth a read (and from an uber-conservative, no less):

Authentic Asininity

67 percent disapprove of Trump

75 percent say he does not share their values

81 percent feel Trump isn’t level-headed

72 percent believe he isn’t honest

69 percent say Trump doesn’t care about average Americans

http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/455420/trump-shithole-comments-authenticity-misunderstanding

[Athos_131]

The false alarm in Hawaii revealed an abdication of leadership by Trump

At the time the incorrect alert went out Trump was finishing up a round of golf at Trump National Golf Course in Florida.

Consider his responses. First that statement, which has one obvious aim: To assure the American people that it wasn’t his fault that the false alert went out — it was Hawaii’s. Then, that tweet, which shows what was preoccupying the president at the moment. Not that one of the 50 states had been briefly wracked with terror after a mistake was made by the people whose job it is to keep them safe. Instead, an insistence to the American people that the media is “fake news,” which was probably a response to the reports that trickled out bolstering a story from the Wall Street Journal that Trump had allegedly paid hush money to a porn star with whom he’d had an affair.

That was the thing that Trump urgently wanted to clear up: The media couldn’t be trusted when it reported on him.

Trump could have tweeted as soon as possible that the alert was a false alarm, sharing that information with millions of Americans immediately. He could have additionally shared information about what went wrong, and assured people that he would work to make sure that no such error happened again in the future. He could, at the very least, have sought to offer some emotional support to the people of Hawaii. He did none of these. He has, as of writing, done none of these.

Since the beginning of his presidency, Trump has rarely assumed that traditional leadership role of the presidency. He’s always taken a hostile attitude toward those who opposed his candidacy, certainly, but he’s also been apathetic about stepping up more broadly to inform, guide and assure the American public. The primary concerns Trump conveys to Americans are about Trump: About how he’s being treated, about how well he is doing, about the media and his opponents and how he just wants to make America great again. The White House releases statements and, as he did on Friday in recognizing Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Trump will read them or tweet about them. But it’s clearly not where his heart lies.

Perhaps that the incident occurred in Hawaii plays a role. It seems odd to have to note that, but it’s certainly defensible. From his attorney general at one point dismissing the state as “an island in the Pacific” to Trump’s general focus on states he won to, we have to note, the gulf between his responses to the hurricanes that struck Texas and Florida and the one that nearly wiped Puerto Rico clean — there is plenty of evidence that can be cited for Trump’s not necessarily having the state of Hawaii at the forefront of his thoughts. Normally, one wouldn’t even assume that a president might be indifferent to one of the 50 states; here, it’s impossible not to wonder if it’s the case.

This is not a high hurdle for a president to face. Should a state be informed that a missile is inbound, it seems self-evident that the president should be made aware of this as rapidly as possible — even if golfing — and act quickly to confirm or rebut the claim. To then quickly inform the public that the story is not true and insist that a review will be undertaken nationally to prevent such a thing from happening again. Perhaps a photo of the president, stern look on his face, speaking with the governor of Hawaii.

An assurance that the government recognizes that a mistake was made and that it is handling things. That didn’t happen.

Trump does not want to be President, he merely wants to be called President.

He should resign.

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[joan1984]

  So, let me understand. Someone, a State employee supposedly pushes the one button that can send a "warning" message to the entire State, in error, and somehow this is President Trump's fault?

  The satisfaction that the Obama appointed leftwing judge in HI who has been a pain in the ass this past year, was possibly screaming and pulling his hair out as he stuffed his family if he has one, into a storm drain, makes this whole mess somehow worthwhile to me.

  IF the story told is the reality, HI has some fixing up to do with how warning signals are allowed to be sent. People running in panic in the streets is not a good situation, and one hopes the Governor there takes some action to see the situation is fixed, soonest.

[Athos_131]

 So, let me understand. Someone, a State employee supposedly pushes the one button that can send a "warning" message to the entire State, in error, and somehow this is President Trump's fault?

  The satisfaction that the Obama appointed leftwing judge in HI who has been a pain in the ass this past year, was possibly screaming and pulling his hair out as he stuffed his family if he has one, into a storm drain, makes this whole mess somehow worthwhile to me.

  IF the story told is the reality, HI has some fixing up to do with how warning signals are allowed to be sent. People running in panic in the streets is not a good situation, and one hopes the Governor there takes some action to see the situation is fixed, soonest.

Breaking:  Racist Child Rape Supporter Has Zero Clue What A Leader Of State Is Supposed To Do

I know exactly what your response would have been if President Obama had remained on the golf course during such an event.

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[joan1984]

  Who elected the Governor of Hawaii? If his was a State employee, who hit the panic button, then the solution rests in her/his lap, whatever party happens to be in charge there. No?

  Are residents in HI taught to panic and run through he streets, abandon their campus locations in the case of students, and stuff underage children into the sewer manholes?  If not, wonder where some got such ideas... facebook?

  While I suppose it is possible for a U.S. enemy to launch Nuclear missiles to hit Hawaii, somewhere, and for that reason Hawaii has decided to perform the planned "drills", one would think more thought and instruction would have gone into the process, unless the process is political in nature from it's beginning, just stirring up the population, keeping folks on edge.

  No one would do such a thing... right?

  So now the people of Hawaii have experienced, just for a few minutes, what the people of Israel have experienced for many years, and live with the threat of REAL missiles being lobbed at their homes and cities, from terrorist entities who U.S. Taxpayers subsidize, the supposed "Palestinians".

 

[Athos_131]

 Who elected the Governor of Hawaii? If his was a State employee, who hit the panic button, then the solution rests in her/his lap, whatever party happens to be in charge there. No?

  Are residents in HI taught to panic and run through he streets, abandon their campus locations in the case of students, and stuff underage children into the sewer manholes?  If not, wonder where some got such ideas... facebook?

  While I suppose it is possible for a U.S. enemy to launch Nuclear missiles to hit Hawaii, somewhere, and for that reason Hawaii has decided to perform the planned "drills", one would think more thought and instruction would have gone into the process, unless the process is political in nature from it's beginning, just stirring up the population, keeping folks on edge.

  No one would do such a thing... right?

  So now the people of Hawaii have experienced, just for a few minutes, what the people of Israel have experienced for many years, and live with the threat of REAL missiles being lobbed at their homes and cities, from terrorist entities who U.S. Taxpayers subsidize, the supposed "Palestinians".

  

Seems we will have to wait for the fired Secret Service Director's book to find out exactly what our Commander In Chief was doing, between fund raising on September 11, and fund raising on September 12, other than lying to us all from the White House, along wiht Hillary that morning.

It's like Trump, there's a post for everything. 

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[Athos_131]

  The satisfaction that the Obama appointed leftwing judge in HI who has been a pain in the ass this past year, was possibly screaming and pulling his hair out as he stuffed his family if he has one, into a storm drain, makes this whole mess somehow worthwhile to me.

"People deserve to live in fear of a nuclear attack because I'm a racist."

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[Athos_131]

The satisfaction that the Obama appointed leftwing judge in HI who has been a pain in the ass this past year, was possibly screaming and pulling his hair out as he stuffed his family if he has one, into a storm drain, makes this whole mess somehow worthwhile to me.

Here's what is being celebrated:

Huddled in fear in Hawaii during the missile scare

It was a beautiful morning, like most, on the island of Oahu: 79 degrees with a big, bright sun. I was at a marina with my family on Kaneohe Bay, blowing the last bits of air into an orange inflatable raft, when the alert came. All caps: "BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND ... NOT A DRILL."

I could feel the blood stand still in my body, the breath leaving my chest, a numbness coming over me. Is this really happening? I asked a man next to me, "You also get this?" He had. Others nearby started running. I did, too.

Find your family, I thought. My older brother, my mom and a cousin were at the car. Another cousin was missing. He's loading the boat, his wife said. I've been calling his name but I can't find him, she said. I ran for the dock. "Neal!" I shouted.

There he was. With no cell phone on him, he still had blue ocean on his mind, not impending death. I hustled him back to the car and read him the message. His jaw dropped.

Visitors to this marina in Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii, left the water and ran for cover after receiving the missile alert Saturday morning.

There was quiet and confusion. No alarms sounded or blared directions. Where do we go now? How long do we have? How long would it take for a missile to arrive from North Korea? The US would surely shoot it down, right?

One of the marina employees called us into a nearby hangar where the boats were stored. Seek shelter. Right. They rolled down the overhead doors, shutting us in with about half a dozen other families. Enclosed, in the dark, panic filled the air. It wasn't hysteria -- there were no shrieks or sobs -- but people were scared. A child sat on the concrete floor, his head in his knees, rocking back and forth. A young man appeared to have a mild panic attack, his father trying to calm him. My brother called his wife, at home with their newborn baby in Honolulu.

My breathing was ragged. My voice shook as I told a group of strangers that I worked in news. I haven't heard anything, I told them. My assignment desk is checking with the Pentagon, I said. I imagined a fiery missile hurtling through space above us. Minutes had gone by. Someone had to tell us what was happening soon. We waited in shock. I checked my work email incessantly, hoping for an update.

"We're going to war," a man next to me said. That consumed my thoughts for the next few minutes.

Then, 15 minutes after the alert arrived, the tweets came in. One from US Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii; a second, a minute later, from the state's emergency management agency. False alarm. I announced the news to the hangar. The air in the room changed. Color entered back into people's faces.

As more tweets rolled in from local officials and politicians, the reality set in. We lifted the doors back open and the sun shown in. It was still bright outside.

We emerged from the hangar, laughing nervously and shaking our heads incredulously. Before the official alert hit our phones, confirming the all clear, we were out on the water in our rented pontoon boat, speeding forward. A big, old turtle poked its head above water then resubmerged, swimming slowly on.

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[Athos_131]

The satisfaction that the Obama appointed leftwing judge in HI who has been a pain in the ass this past year, was possibly screaming and pulling his hair out as he stuffed his family if he has one, into a storm drain, makes this whole mess somehow worthwhile to me.

Here's what is being celebrated:

Being a mother in Hawaii during 38 minutes of nuclear fear

We knew there was a big swell coming in, so when the alarm blared on my phone at 8 a.m., my first sleepy thought was that we were flooding and needed to evacuate. It’s the waves, I thought drowsily. Then I read the notice on my phone.

“Emergency Alert BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.”

We’re not really disaster preppers on Oahu. Most of us grab our hurricane provisions in a mad rush to Costco and Walmart in the days before a storm hits. And we have a long history of pulling together during crisis. Aloha is a state of mind, but it’s also shown through actions. Our sense of community, known as ohana, is strong. We all sink or swim together. So that was the excuse I’d given myself for not ensuring that we were prepared as a family to shelter in place during a nuclear strike. That and a big fat case of denial that the country I love has devolved to such a place.

I was home with my daughter, my service dog Pono, and Rosie the chinchilla, who belongs to my daughter, Abby. When I read the alarm, I jump out of bed and grab my glasses. I run to Abigail’s room. “Get up honey. You have to get up right now. Right now. Grab your pillow. Go to the bathroom. Turn on the tub and run it. Turn it off when it’s full. Sit in the corner. Wait for me. Be brave. I’ll be right there.” I give her a hug and a kiss and run off.

I run past Rosie in her huge cage and make a calculated decision that she won’t come into the bathroom with us. The cage wouldn’t fit and I wasn’t about to have a loose chinchilla running around during a nuclear disaster. I think about how my daughter would never trust me again if I tell her this. I shot Rosie a look of sympathy and went to search for the dog.

I run to the back yard. It was such a stunningly typical, beautiful Hawaiian morning. Blue sky and bird song.

“Brandon?” I try my husband on his cellphone but the line is dead. I send a text to tell him we love him and that we’d shelter in the bathroom. I pray he’s somewhere a missile wouldn’t go, and that wherever he was had thick walls and water. I grab my medications, quickly fill a jug of water, and run to drop it off and check on Abby.

“Mom? What’s happening?” She’s not crying, she’s pale, terrified, wide-eyed and wearing pajamas with cartoon characters on them. “Stay there baby. I’ll be right back.” Off again to find the dog. I grab chocolate bars that were sitting in a drawer on the way, thinking they’re quick calories.

I scan the house for Pono in a panic and realize he’s outside. I hesitate at the doorway, wondering what people would say if they learned I was nuked while trying to get the dog. I think of Dorothy chasing after Toto while the tornado is bearing down. Then I think of what a very good service dog he is, and how he wakes me up when I faint, and ran outside.

The neighborhood is silent.

Pono comes running when he hears the tone of my voice. When he sees Abby, he puts his head right next to her.

I grab pillows and quilts off the beds and run back to the bathroom. The tub is nearly overflowing because Abby is too scared to move and turn it off. I settle in next to my daughter and the dog, and see a text from my husband: “On my way home.” I write back, “No. Find a place to stay.” He had been on a rural road with no shelter on the way to town, so had turned around. “Be there in two minutes.”

I pray whatever was about to hit us was going to take longer than two minutes.

I spread the quilt out on the floor, hand Abby a pillow, and calmly ask her if they talked about duck and cover in school. I realize that I don’t know much about duck and cover because I’m only 36 years old and I grew up in a world without nuclear threats. I fake the confidence and teach my fourth-grader how to pull her knees up to her chest, lean her head down into them and cover her neck with her arms.

“Mom, why are we doing this? Please? What’s going on?” We don’t talk about our president with our daughter very much. I don’t have many good things to say about him and I don’t want her to feel the pressure of very grown-up problems.

When she asks, I try to answer her judiciously. We have never discussed the fact that for the last year we have lived in a state under nuclear threat. “Well, honey, you know that sometimes countries pick fights with each other and that’s what a war is?” “Yeah …” “Well, our president has been picking a fight with another country and they have missiles. Do you know what a missile is?” She nods. “So we just got a warning that the other country sent a missile to Hawaii. Until our military can blow it up we need to shelter somewhere safe just in case.” Another nod. Another group hug with the dog. “Where’s daddy?” Abby asks, and I note that she never calls him daddy anymore. “On his way, baby. He’ll be here any minute.”

For the first time, I wonder why the civil defense sirens didn’t go off. We’re supposed to have sirens- the state has been testing them for the last two months. The fear I felt the first time I heard the nuke test siren, it turns out, is only a modicum of the fear I feel now, cowering in a bathroom with my child.

I berate myself for not having a go-bag ready, for not having a box of emergency supplies stored in the bathroom, in the cars, in my husband’s office. I pray our failing to prepare won’t mean our deaths.

I let go of Abigail and tell her I need to check my phone. My browser is open to Twitter, so I refresh the page. I scroll past tweets about the missile alert in Hawaii. Warnings to seek shelter. Inappropriate jokes made out of stress. I refresh the page and see that Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) tweeted that it was a false alarm. I keep scrolling because I need more evidence. Another tweet from Senator Schatz, who retweeted (and has since deleted?) something from a federal agency saying that it was a false alarm. I refresh again. Major news outlets and elected government figures are saying it’s a false alarm.

I hear my husband, Brandon, drive up, and I shakily stand. I tell Abigail to stay where she is and run out to Brandon and we hug. He doesn’t know it’s over yet and we’re both shaking. “I always thought if this happened I would be with my family,” he said later, as we were sitting outside decompressing.

We lead Abigail out of the bathroom, but we’re still uneasy. We live close to a firehouse and haven’t heard trucks go out on a single call. There has been no public response from our state or federal government. Twitter is our only source. “Is my friend still having her birthday party today?” Abigail asks.

Thirty minutes after the alert and still no all-clear. Thirty-five minutes. Finally, 38 minutes after the false alarm, we receive emergency text alerts stating the all-clear. It takes even longer for the state to send notices out over the radio and television. Both firetrucks leave, sirens blaring, on calls.

It’s only been a few hours, but the sense of unease is still there.

Brandon and I have decided to make emergency kits and go-bags and I’ll be researching how to buy iodine in bulk. We’ll have a conversation with Abby, and have drills as a family.

Not right now though.

Right now we’re sitting on the lanai, enjoying being together, dog snoring at our side, while our kid runs in and out of the yard, wearing a unicorn headband, helping her friend get ready for her birthday party.

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[joan1984]

FCC Chairman Ajit Pae - To the rescue...

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) announced Saturday that it will begin an investigation into a false alarm from U.S. Pacific Command claiming a ballistic missile was headed to Hawaii.

FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr said in a statement Saturday afternoon that the FCC would fully investigate why the initial message was sent and was left uncorrected for nearly 40 minutes, sending residents into a panic.

"The FCC has begun a full investigation into the FALSE missile alert in Hawaii," Carr said, retweeting a similar message from FCC chief of staff Matthew Berry.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368909-fcc-commissioner-we-will-investigate-hawaii-missile-false-alarm

No worries, Pai will get this resolved, save the snowflakes...

[Athos_131]

No worries, Pai will get this resolved, save the snowflakes...

You mean the ex-Verizon lawyer who forced an anti-net neutrality agenda through based on fake comments on the FCC's website?

You've yet to defend Trump's actions.

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[joan1984]

Yes, of course. Chairman of FCC, Ajit Pai.

Will save HI from itself, hopefully, so they can stop the nonsense and allow people to spend their new tax savings to visit HI as tourists, without all the Democrat drama they seem to foist upon tourists.

No worries, Pai will get this resolved, save the snowflakes...

You mean the ex-Verizon lawyer who forced an anti-net neutrality agenda through based on fake comments on the FCC's website?

You've yet to defend Trump's actions.

#Resist

[Northwest]

FCC Chairman Ajit Pae - To the rescue...

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) announced Saturday that it will begin an investigation into a false alarm from U.S. Pacific Command claiming a ballistic missile was headed to Hawaii.

FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr said in a statement Saturday afternoon that the FCC would fully investigate why the initial message was sent and was left uncorrected for nearly 40 minutes, sending residents into a panic.

"The FCC has begun a full investigation into the FALSE missile alert in Hawaii," Carr said, retweeting a similar message from FCC chief of staff Matthew Berry.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368909-fcc-commissioner-we-will-investigate-hawaii-missile-false-alarm

No worries, Pai will get this resolved, save the snowflakes...

A point of form, Joan.

The article title seen above (FCC Chairman Ajit Pae - To the rescue...) is NOT the correct title to the article you posted -- it's something, presumably. which you added on your own to editorialize. You did not, however, indicate in any way which parts of your post  were quotations from the article, and which parts you wrote (both the beginning and ending, as it happens, were written by you).

That's a no-no. If all you're quoting is an excerpt, you should indicate that as well. But it's not acceptable to cut an article into pieces, add your own parts without indicating that you're doing so, and then providing a link, indicating that the link was the source of what we just read.

If you add (or remove) something from an article you should indicate it. Otherwise it looks like you're trying to pull a fast one. There are any number of ways you indicate a change in who is speaking; quote boxes, quotation marks, ellipses, bold text, italicizing, etc.

I know The Hill, I visit it daily, and my hunch told me immediately that that was unlikely to be one of their headlines. They are a serious new organization, and would neither promote nor denigrate one of Trump's appointees in a headline.

[joan1984]

Get a life, please.

If you wish to read the article, I was kind enough to attach it, and put into italics some sentences from the article, so those with less interest could skip the full reading.

Do not presume to tell me what I can post, or not post, or what structure you demand. Just don't.

Read, or not; respond or not; I do not care what you think or believe, and you should know that by now.

[Athos_131]

the Democrat drama they seem to foist upon tourists.

What are you talking about?  Provide a link.  Thanks in advance.

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[Athos_131]

Do not presume to tell me what I can post, or not post, or what structure you demand. Just don't.

You mean like this?

Athos, please stop all dialog with me. Thank you.

Telling others what not to post then whining when they post is highly hypocritical.

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