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Reply #2620 on: July 29, 2017, 01:37:44 AM
Trump is that Texas  saying, "all hat and no cattle. "In other words he's a hot wind with nothing behind it.

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Reply #2621 on: July 29, 2017, 01:39:51 AM
I have a feeling that should we get a scenario like the guns of August, the current White House with all of its infighting will not be able to react in a unified manner, or even measured manner. We are looking at a nightmare.


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Reply #2622 on: July 29, 2017, 03:33:24 AM
Fuck off, Athos.

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Reply #2623 on: July 29, 2017, 03:39:16 AM
Fuck off, Athos.

Why won't you provide a source proving it was fake news?

Please advise.

Thanks in advance.

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Reply #2624 on: July 29, 2017, 03:50:46 AM
Anthony Scaramucci’s wife files for divorce

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Deidre Ball, who worked as a vice president in investor relations for SkyBridge Capital, the firm he founded in 2005 and sold to ascend to the White House, has filed for divorce from “The Mooch” after three years of marriage after getting fed up with his ruthless quest to get close to President Trump, whom she despises.

One source told Page Six, “Deidre has left him and has filed for divorce. She liked the nice Wall Street life and their home on Long Island, not the insane world of D.C. She is tired of his naked ambition, which is so enormous that it left her at her wits’ end. She has left him even though they have two children together.”

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Reply #2625 on: July 29, 2017, 05:09:46 AM
Trump couldn't lead a diarrhea ward to a latrine.

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Reply #2626 on: July 29, 2017, 07:24:24 AM
I have always liked reading  Robert Heinlein novels. And I know how stoked and formulating his books are. But they always appealed to me. I remember a passage in Starship Trooper, where the hero is waxing philosophical and says that "nothing strikes fear into the heart of a sergeant than an officer who can't make a decision."

My father, once told me, that was more true than not. And should I ever come into a situation where I was in a position of leadership, to always listen to advice from those who had experience. It would serve me well.

Trump does not seem able to listen.

My father also said that even a bad decision was better than dithering. Looking at Trump, it seems that he can't do anything, make a reasoned decision or even act unless his precious ego is being tweaked.

My father commented to me today that he had seen officers like Trump before. They didn't survive in combat for long.

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Reply #2627 on: July 29, 2017, 01:09:49 PM
I have always liked reading  Robert Heinlein novels. And I know how stoked and formulating his books are. But they always appealed to me. I remember a passage in Starship Trooper, where the hero is waxing philosophical and says that "nothing strikes fear into the heart of a sergeant than an officer who can't make a decision."

My father, once told me, that was more true than not. And should I ever come into a situation where I was in a position of leadership, to always listen to advice from those who had experience. It would serve me well.

Trump does not seem able to listen.

My father also said that even a bad decision was better than dithering. Looking at Trump, it seems that he can't do anything, make a reasoned decision or even act unless his precious ego is being tweaked.

My father commented to me today that he had seen officers like Trump before. They didn't survive in combat for long.

Trump has repeatedly broken his core campaign promise

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There’s an anecdote that didn’t get much attention last week that’s relevant here. Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) was addressing a small crowd in D.C. when he told a story about a conversation between Trump and his secretary of defense, Jim Mattis. From Washingtonian’s report:

“We’re asking permission to send 50 of our soldiers into a village outside Raqqa,” Mattis told Trump, according to Graham. “Why are you calling me?” Trump replied. “I don’t know where this village is at.” Mattis told him, “Well, that’s what we’ve done for the last 8 years.”

Trump, Graham said, then asked, “Who’s asking to go into that village?” Mattis told him, “A major, first in his class at West Point.”

“’Why do you think I know more about that than he does?’” Graham said Trump asked. “And then he hung up.”

In one sense, that’s understandable: The guy on the ground has more intimate familiarity with what’s happening than does Trump. But in two senses, it’s amazing. First, Trump is the ultimate decision-maker on military matters, a role he embraces in the abstract but that, here, seemed to take him aback. But, second, we can easily see a way in which this is handled if the incursion into that village goes south: Well, Trump might say, it’s not my fault.

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Reply #2628 on: July 29, 2017, 02:02:15 PM
Hope she took the kids with her. Best for her to live her life the way she wants it and not try to adapt to the life of an Administration White House Director, in any event. Is a 24/7 kind of job, with who knows what increased demands.

Hopefully less for Anthony to be concerned about as he learns his job in DC.
Why he ever thought he could have a casual conversation with someone who he considered a person who could let him vent, is beyond me, and now beyond him, one hopes.  I expect wifey knew Anthony was a high Type A kind of guy long ago. Let's hope when he sold his company to join the Administration, he had lawyers looking out for her personal interests, leaving him less unprepared for the effects of divorce on his personal wealth.

The "russia, russia, russia" clarion call seems to have calmed this week, and I expect as additional Campaign persons of all stripes are interviewed, and a new SC gets underway, there will be less, rather then more details leaking.

John Kelly should be interesting as Chief of Staff. Will see who remains as the direct report list, which itself is hopefully kept close to the vest from now on.



Anthony Scaramucci’s wife files for divorce

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Deidre Ball, who worked as a vice president in investor relations for SkyBridge Capital, the firm he founded in 2005 and sold to ascend to the White House, has filed for divorce from “The Mooch” after three years of marriage after getting fed up with his ruthless quest to get close to President Trump, whom she despises.

One source told Page Six, “Deidre has left him and has filed for divorce. She liked the nice Wall Street life and their home on Long Island, not the insane world of D.C. She is tired of his naked ambition, which is so enormous that it left her at her wits’ end. She has left him even though they have two children together.”

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Reply #2629 on: July 29, 2017, 05:30:23 PM
At least we know you'll never be burdened with compassion, ethics or morality.

When do you plan on providing the credible source about your claim of fake news?

A link to the source is requested.

Thanks in advance.

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Reply #2630 on: July 29, 2017, 10:09:51 PM
I suspect now that Scaramucci had gotten rid of Priebus and Spicer he'll go after Bannon next.  He means to be the only fox in the henhouse.



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Reply #2631 on: July 29, 2017, 10:51:19 PM

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Reply #2632 on: July 29, 2017, 10:52:52 PM
Anthony Scaramucci Set To Make Up To $77 Million In Hedge Fund Sale That Has Yet to Close

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The Chinese buyer has been under some scrutiny for its opaque financial and ownership structure. HNA Capital, a New York-based subsidiary of HNA Group, is a Chinese conglomerate that conducts business in a variety of sectors including real estate, aviation, shipbuilding, finance and more. The company picked up a 9.92% stake in Deutsche Bank, Germany’s largest bank, in May 2017. The European Central Bank, a regulatory institution that watches over central banks in the eurozone, is reportedly considering opening an inquiry into HNA’s financial standing as a result of the company’s Deutsche ownership. Officials are worried that HNA’s capital is fueled by large loans from the Chinese state banks.

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Reply #2633 on: July 29, 2017, 10:55:28 PM

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Reply #2634 on: July 30, 2017, 07:56:58 AM
How low can he go? Still lower, apparently. I'm posting this one in its entirety because, damn it, she absolutely nails it on the head. Trump is a big fucking loser, and we need to get the clown off the boat before he drowns us all.

President Trump’s Really Weak Week
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WASHINGTON — Donald Trump was promising to destroy a vile criminal cartel.

Unfortunately, not his own.

But one could be forgiven for mistaking the vicious tactics of the MS-13 gang, as described by the president in a Long Island speech on Friday, with those of the Trump White House.

“They don’t like shooting people because it’s too quick, it’s too fast,” Trump said, adding: “They like to knife them and cut them, and let them die slowly because that way, it’s more painful, and they enjoy watching that much more. These are animals.”

The president could have been describing his own sadistic assault on Jeff Sessions, “as flies to wanton boys,” as Shakespeare said. Trump turned Sessions — with all his backward views on gays, drugs and criminal justice — into an unlikely hero for lawmakers from both parties who began hailing him as a crown jewel of American jurisprudence.

In his speech, Trump encouraged police brutality and said he was “the big, big believer and admirer of the people in law enforcement, O.K.?” He said that he’s protecting the backs of law enforcement “100 percent.” Except for Sessions, Sally Yates, Preet Bharara and Robert Mueller.

As two people close to Trump told The Times’s Maggie Haberman when asked why he was tormenting Sessions instead of firing him: Because he can.

Six months in, Trump has pushed out a staggering number of top people, culminating with Reince Priebus. And in his paranoid, aggrieved isolation, he’s even thinking about nixing Steve Bannon, nemesis of the Mooch, and mulling firing the one who could get him fired, Mueller, and pardoning himself for possible charges.

Trump learned his technique of publicly criticizing and freely firing from George Steinbrenner, one of the ruthless, towering characters he modeled himself on when he started hanging out at Yankee Stadium in the ’70s.

The dark pandemonium of the Trump West Wing has become a wormy scene worthy of Hieronymus Bosch. As Trump Fox News cheerleader Katrina Pierson likes to say, “People have to get comfortable being uncomfortable.”

Trump unleashed his Mini-Me pit bull Anthony Scaramucci to maul Priebus, and The Mooch cast himself as Cain to Priebus’s Abel, eviscerating him in a lewd rant to, of all places, The New Yorker. Then Trump delivered the coup de graceless Friday evening, tweeting from Air Force One as Priebus deplaned that he was replacing the chief of staff with Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly.

Trump had always resented Priebus for advising him to get out of the race after the Billy Bush “Access Hollywood” tape story broke — known as Priebus’s “scarlet A.H.,” according to The Washington Post — and for not understanding that Trump is not a mere Republican; he’s the head of his own “beautiful,” us-against-them movement, “the likes of which the world has never seen.”

Priebus wasn’t “an original,” as early Trump loyalists are known, or a populist. But he was Paul Ryan’s Wisconsin BFF, which made Trump doubt where his chief of staff’s loyalties lay when it came to Congress. And Trump and the Mooch had fingered Priebus as a leaker, which bugs them, even though they themselves are leakers extraordinaire.

As The Post reports, Trump’s delighted demeaning of Priebus included this incident: “At one point, during a meeting in the Oval Office, a fly began buzzing overhead, distracting the president. As the fly continued to circle, Trump summoned his chief of staff and tasked him with killing the insect.”

After torturing Reince for months, Trump happily gave him the final humiliating shove. As the tweets hit the White House cellphones, Priebus’s colleagues Stephen Miller and Dan Scavino jumped out of the Suburban they were sharing with Priebus, leaving the jobless man in a driving rain on the tarmac at Andrews Air Force Base, the weakest link tossed off the sled for the press wolves.

You’re a killer and a king or a loser, as Fred Trump liked to say. And anyone who doesn’t understand that Trump is more important than the G.O.P. or the institution of the presidency is, in his mind, a loser. Anyone who doesn’t get that the loyalty should be for him personally, rather than the country, is, to Trump, a loser.

Trump is trapped in a caricature of masculinity that corrodes his judgment. As red meat for his base, he tweeted that after consulting his generals he was banning transgenders from the military. But his defense secretary, James Mattis, and generals quickly pushed back on the idea.

With Priebus, The Post reported, the president obsessed on impotence. “The word was ‘weak’ – ‘weak,’ ‘weak,’ ‘weak,’ ‘Can’t get it done,’” an official told the paper.

But after all his bragging about being a great negotiator and closer, it is President Trump who can’t get it done. He couldn’t even close the deal on a pathetic, bare-bones health care bill, ineffectually bullying Lisa Murkowski, a Republican senator from Alaska, and failing to win over John McCain, who gleefully had his revenge for Trump’s mockery of him as being a loser because he was captured in war.

Trump can’t get it done for his pal, Putin, either. In fact, the biggest legislative accomplishment before Congress leaves for August will have been passing new sanctions on Russia because lawmakers don’t trust their own president. Talk about weak.

Congressional Republicans are losing their fear of Trump, making ever more snarky comments about him. North Korea is shooting off missiles and the White House is flustered. The generals are resisting Trump’s tweet edicts. The mortified leader of the Boy Scouts had to apologize for the president’s suggestive and partisan speech.

And what could be weaker than that?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/29/opinion/sunday/president-trumps-really-weak-week.html



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Reply #2635 on: July 30, 2017, 06:41:41 PM
Save the link below because it's constantly updated and you can get an aggregate view of the average of all the polls, adjusted for partisan lean to provide the most accurate view possible (created by Nate Silver's highly respected 538).

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo



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Reply #2636 on: July 30, 2017, 08:14:35 PM
He might look at the polls and decide to wag the dog.



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Reply #2637 on: July 30, 2017, 09:49:54 PM
Fun fact, when the Cubs went down 3-1 in the World Series he said Trump had a better chance of winning the election than the Cubs coming back.

I really haven't paid much attention to him since then.

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Reply #2638 on: July 30, 2017, 11:05:47 PM
The White House’s calamitous week

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Republicans failing — apparently for good — to deliver on a long-standing GOP and Trump promise to repeal Obamacare, thanks to a statement vote from none other than Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), whose war hero status Trump poo-pooed as a candidate.

Trump announcing a ban on transgender members of the military that was apparently news to both the military and Congress and still isn’t sorted out, with several GOP senators opposing it and the Joint Chiefs of Staff issuing a statement that the military would continue to work with transgender employees.

Trump delivering a highly political speech to Boy Scouts in West Virginia that had the organization’s leaders distancing themselves from his remarks and making assurances that the Boy Scouts don’t take political sides.

Trump’s new communications director, Anthony Scaramucci, talking about killing leakers and deriding Trump’s other two top White House advisers, Reince Priebus and Stephen K. Bannon, in graphic and vulgar terms.

Priebus resigning, becoming the fourth high-ranking White House staffer to exit within a little more than six months, alongside Michael Flynn, Michael Dubke and Sean Spicer.

The head of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), telling Trump that the committee would not take up a replacement for Attorney General Jeff Sessions this year if Sessions is relieved of his duties, after Trump continually undermined Sessions on Twitter and in interviews.

Rebukes from Grassley’s fellow Republican Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) and Ben Sasse (Neb.), who said Trump’s potential firings of Sessions and Russia investigation special counsel Robert S. Mueller would be beyond the pale.

More rebukes from police organizations — including the International Association of Chief of Police and the police department where Trump spoke in Suffolk County, N.Y., on Friday — for suggesting that police shouldn’t be so nice to suspected criminals being taken into custody.



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Reply #2639 on: July 30, 2017, 11:19:01 PM

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