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Reply #1540 on: February 20, 2017, 11:39:19 PM




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Reply #1541 on: February 20, 2017, 11:47:52 PM

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Reply #1542 on: February 20, 2017, 11:48:41 PM

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Reply #1543 on: February 20, 2017, 11:49:49 PM

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Reply #1544 on: February 21, 2017, 12:02:24 AM
WTF has anything President Trump said had to do with subverting the United States Constitution? 

You guys are looking for things to complain about, and at four weeks, with only a bare skeleton of the Cabinet approved so far, by the foot dragging of Democrats in the Senate, and the Agencies running with Obama appointees retained, so not with his own people hired by the Agency heads yet to be confirmed by Congress, this White House seems to be doing just fine. 

Picking fights and nit picking one or another issue is just butt hurt.

The difference between Obama, with 100% support of the media, and a 60 seat majority in the Senate, shoving leftist solutions through a willing Congress, to spend money, the easy stuff to do for Democrats who don't need to account to anyone, those pesky questions about 'how will you pay for this' not being asked by anyone who can impact them, and today's situation is stark.

President Obama DOUBLED our debt/deficit over what his predecessor left him, with no apology for it at all, and no one seeking true accountability. The programs he pushed through have not accomplished there "stated" goals, if the goals that were stated were even real, and only paid off the Unions to retain the ongoing fund raising they provide for Democrats. A Trillion here, a Trillion there, what the hell. Obamacare is a great example of a failing program with excessive costs, demanding replacement with something that works.

Republicans in the Senate and the Congress are no bargain either, and seem unable to handle the politics of winning... unlike the lock step Democrats who simply follow their instructions, and "resist", at least for now, and hope for the President to screw up something they can get their teeth into, to distract the populace, and let them back into power, despite still having no clue what they can do to persuade people that their ideas were the cause of their losses.

President Trump is doing well, embattled on all sides by intransigence among the 'establishment' in Washington, in both Parties, while seeking to overcome that very institution, as well as the 'establishment' and leftist Press... very well.


If you would like me too, I can definitively state that the last portion of the statement I qouted from him points to an action taking place. A singular occurance of importance, not something occuring over a long period and perhaps being comprised of many unrelated occurances.

If Trump was speaking about crime statistics, then saying "look at what's happening last night" is a base canard. Or in plain speaking, a lie, propaganda.

The use of alternate facts, that this administration indulges in is nothing less than propaganda like that used by the Nazis and Soviet Russia. But it seems that the GOP and the Trump base are more or less ok with this.

The statement made by Trump on Saturday is just propaganda. And I ascribe the basest of motives to him for using this. If it isn't motivated by an intention to subvert our Constitution, then it is motivated by gross incompetence. In either case Trump is not fit to be POTUS and should be removed from office.

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Reply #1545 on: February 21, 2017, 12:14:02 AM
Turns out President Trump wasn't telling an alternative fact about terrorism in Sweden.  Swedish police have just confirmed that last weekend they prevented an attack from a cell of fanatics known as Al-Ikea



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Reply #1546 on: February 21, 2017, 12:15:41 AM
Give it up, Joan. Trump is a fucking train wreck of historic proportions, and you are showing us that your postures are completely divorced from reality.

You're far from the smartest person here (you might not even be the middle of the pack) and ALL of the evidence is on the other side. Being Trump's apologist under these conditions is a form of intellectual suicide.

If you keep this nonsense up, I'm going to take the gloves off and get rough with you. ;D

PS -- Did you watch the clip where the guy shows that Trump can't read? Seriously, Joan, you have more on the ball than little Donny.



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Reply #1547 on: February 21, 2017, 12:16:21 AM
Joan, do you know what lockstep is? You should review how the GOP has behaved. They follow dogma MUCH more rigerously than do those in the Democratic Party, where dissension is tolerated to higher degree.

As for destroying the Constitution, he is following a very clear path, one that dictators have followed in destroying other democratic governments. First discredit the press. Which is exactly what the Trump administration is doing.

His insistence that he is not to blame for his misstatements and missteps, but others who are enemies of the state, or in his words "of the American people" are also clear warning signs of ill intent.

You only get a brief hiatus when you start a job. When you continually screw up in the first 30 days, you don't get any slack. A businessman should understand that. It's common practice in the business world.

It indicates that the spoiled little boy pretending to be the POTUS has never been held accountable for his incompetence, which is exactly what he has been displaying these past weeks.

George W. Bush's administration quickly came to grips with the job and had very few avoidable screw ups like the Trump administration. As much as I disagreed with Bush Policies, for the most part they displayed a much higher degree of competence and ability.

Fuck ups like Trump who think their money washes over their incompetence are likely to be disappointed in public office, because people question the actions of the government, and that is the final balance in a democratic government.


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Reply #1548 on: February 21, 2017, 12:22:26 AM
Turns out President Trump wasn't telling an alternative fact about terrorism in Sweden.  Swedish police have just confirmed that last weekend they prevented an attack from a cell of fanatics known as Al-Ikea

No, it doesn't turn out that way at all. If it was about your (currently mythical -- you got a source there buddy?) terrorist...whatever it was...Trump would have said so. He didn't. He claims he was responding to an unrelated Fox New story.

Regardless of what happened after the fact, Trump lied, or more accurately, he got muddled in the nether world where his fantasies and facts merge together into an incomprehensible soup of nonsense.

Is this the best you got, WBL? You don't get to keep rolling out new versions of a story until you find one that doesn't get shot down. People who try that lose their credibility in extremely short order.



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Reply #1549 on: February 21, 2017, 12:24:45 AM


#Resist

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Reply #1550 on: February 21, 2017, 12:30:38 AM
Turns out President Trump wasn't telling an alternative fact about terrorism in Sweden.  Swedish police have just confirmed that last weekend they prevented an attack from a cell of fanatics known as Al-Ikea

No, it doesn't turn out that way at all. If it was about your (currently mythical -- you got a source there buddy?) terrorist...whatever it was...Trump would have said so. He didn't. He claims he was responding to an unrelated Fox New story.

Regardless of what happened after the fact, Trump lied, or more accurately, he got muddled in the nether world where his fantasies and facts merge together into an incomprehensible soup of nonsense.

Is this the best you got, WBL? You don't get to keep rolling out new versions of a story until you find one that doesn't get shot down. People who try that lose their credibility in extremely short order.


Would anyone else like to  step in here - you have heard of Ikea, Sweden, meatballs, flat pack furniture.. .jokes?



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Reply #1551 on: February 21, 2017, 12:38:01 AM


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Reply #1552 on: February 21, 2017, 12:41:08 AM
Would anyone else like to  step in here - you have heard of Ikea, Sweden, meatballs, flat pack furniture.. .jokes?

I'm completely lost. Are you saying you were joking?

How about a source for your story. I visited Google's News page just now (which is an aggregation of stories from all over) and saw nothing about this.




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Reply #1553 on: February 21, 2017, 12:42:21 AM
Al-IKEA is a play upon Al-Queda. IKEA is the Swedish furniture store.

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Reply #1554 on: February 21, 2017, 12:42:39 AM
Hey....
Don't pick on IKEA they have some pretty good stuff in their store.
(I haven't found the home terrorist section yet, but I'm looking).
Meanwhile the kitchen and bath section has some pretty interesting things.
 ;D

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Reply #1555 on: February 21, 2017, 12:43:05 AM
Would anyone else like to  step in here - you have heard of Ikea, Sweden, meatballs, flat pack furniture.. .jokes?

I'm completely lost. Are you saying you were joking?

How about a source for your story. I visited Google's News page just now (which is an aggregation of stories from all over) and saw nothing about this.



 :facepalm: yes it's a joke

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Reply #1556 on: February 21, 2017, 12:44:25 AM
LOL

Very good; joke's on me. Very funny.

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Reply #1557 on: February 21, 2017, 12:52:00 AM
LOL

Very good; joke's on me. Very funny.

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You got there eventually - just follow the arrows  ( another Ikea reference) ;D



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Reply #1558 on: February 21, 2017, 01:28:57 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/727574/Sweden-chaos-Police-pushed-breaking-point-unprecedented-violence-crime

Have a look, and tell me Sweden is not struggling, being overrun by migrant crime, and lack of enough Police to reestablish safety, with 52+ "no go zones" where Police cannot assure the safety of residents.

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Reply #1559 on: February 21, 2017, 01:35:44 AM
Joan, let us review another mis-statement from Trump during his speech at the CIA. "Like I said, we should have kept the oil..."

Not a smart statement. It upset the Iraqis, and cause immense consternation with all of our mid-eastern allies.

I hold him accountable for shooting off his mouth without thinking. Very few modern era presidents have made errors like that in a public speech.

My conclusion is that Trump is either incompetent or stupid. Uniformed at the very least. Both causes make him unfit for the office of POTUS. There is NO excuse for behavior like this in ANYONE who aspires to be POTUS.

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