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Offline Sensualtravler

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Reply #1200 on: January 29, 2017, 02:41:30 AM
A lot of these are very much the reason things have gone the way they are.

The political explanation of "US" or, who and what we
are, and why we (US) were created.

 By far the best explanation, ever.

 "US"- by Paul Genova
 
I'm noticing that a lot
of you aren't graciously accepting the fact that your
candidate lost.
 
In fact you seem to be posting even
more hateful things about
those who voted for Trump.
 
Some of you are
apparently "triggered" because you are posting how
"sick" you feel about the results.
 
How did this happen you ask?
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You created "us"
when you attacked our freedom of speech.
 
You created"us"
when you attacked our right to bear arms.
 
You created "us"
when you attacked our Christian beliefs.
 
You created "us"
when you constantly referred to us
as racists.
 
You created "us"
when you constantly called us xenophobic.
 
You created "us"
when you told us to get on board or
get out of the way.
 
You created "us"
when you forced us to buy health
care and then financially penalized us for not
participating.
 
You created "us"
when you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our
doctors.
 
You created "us"
when you allowed our jobs to
continue to leave our country.
 
You created "us"
when you attacked our flag.
 
You created "us"
when you took God out of our schools.
 
You created "us"
when you confused women's rights with
feminism.
 
You created "us"
when you began to emasculate men.
 
You created "us"
when you decided to make our
children soft.
 
You created "us"
When you decided to rewrite school
history books and remove the truth about our
founders
 
You created "us"
when you decided to vote for
progressive ideals.
 
You created "us"
when you attacked our way of life.
 
You created "us"
when you decided to let our
government get out of
control.
 
"You" created "us"
the silent majority.
 
You created "us"
when you began murdering innocent law enforcement
officers.
 
You created "us"
when you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your
hat during our National Anthem.
 
And we became fed up
and we pushed back and spoke up.
 
And we did it with
ballots, not bullets.
 
With ballots,
not riots.
 
With ballots,
not looting.
 
With ballots,
not blocking traffic.
 
With ballots,
not fires, except the one you
started inside of "us".
 
"YOU" created
"US".
 
It really is just that simple.

 

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Reply #1201 on: January 29, 2017, 02:44:58 AM

Trump's Counselor Kellyanne Conway, White House press secretary Sean Spicer, chief strategist and senior counselor Stephen Bannon and senior adviser Jared Kushner — Trump's son-in-law — all have rnchq.org email accounts, Newsweek reported Wednesday.

This is surprising, considering Trump's campaign called out Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for using a private email server while she was Secretary of State.

Shall we lock them up?



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Reply #1202 on: January 29, 2017, 03:11:03 AM
I don't know if everything you say is true or not, Joan, but it's pretty far afield from the thread topic.

A great many of Trump's snap decisions raise legal issues (including perhaps most significantly, refusing entry on religious grounds -- if it can be shown that this what he is, in fact, attempting), and I suspect that when the smoke clears Trump and his administration will find themselves mired in numerous lawsuits.

The only reason he has avoided them thus far is not because of any presidential honeymoon (which I think trump has forfeited) but because he is moving faster than the the attorneys of his opposition. But that will short itself out in pretty short order, I suspect.

I love people who attempt to mire truths with intentionally distorted facts.

At no time has Trump even implied he would ban anyone from entering our country because of their religion. Your posting doesn't begin to state the facts.

Is the country one comes from establish their religion?
Is ones doctrine a religion?

Unless you're implying Muslim extremists depicts Islam, which it certainly does not, you're only twisting facts for the sake continuing your dislike of Trump.
Grow up, get a life, and get over it.


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Reply #1203 on: January 29, 2017, 03:14:00 AM
And let's remember Muslim is not a fucking RACE. There are white, black, yellow, whatever Muslims.

People are so god damned stupid they can't figure this out.  :facepalm:



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Reply #1204 on: January 29, 2017, 03:24:10 AM
At no time has Trump even implied he would ban anyone from entering our country because of their religion. Your posting doesn't begin to state the facts...Grow up, get a life, and get over it.

Donald Trump: ban all Muslims entering US

Donald Trump, the leading contender to become the Republican party’s nominee for US presidential candidate, has called for a “total and complete shutdown” of the country’s borders to Muslims in the wake of the San Bernardino terrorist attack.

Trump made his most extreme pledge yet – in a race in which he has consistently pushed the boat out on issues of race and immigration – in a statement released to the media through his presidential campaign team.

[...]

Excerpt from:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/07/donald-trump-ban-all-muslims-entering-us-san-bernardino-shooting

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Oops.

Are you wishing now you left out the part about "Grow up, get a life, and get over it". Word to the wise; keep your words sweet, because that way they go down easier when you have to eat them.




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Reply #1205 on: January 29, 2017, 03:33:36 AM

Trump's Counselor Kellyanne Conway, White House press secretary Sean Spicer, chief strategist and senior counselor Stephen Bannon and senior adviser Jared Kushner — Trump's son-in-law — all have rnchq.org email accounts, Newsweek reported Wednesday.

This is surprising, considering Trump's campaign called out Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for using a private email server while she was Secretary of State.

Shall we lock them up?

What does that show? Are they personal mails accounts, or email for government business? How many of their positions require them to have secret or top secret clearances such as was required by Hillarios?
At no time has Trump even implied he would ban anyone from entering our country because of their religion. Your posting doesn't begin to state the facts...Grow up, get a life, and get over it.

Donald Trump: ban all Muslims entering US

Donald Trump, the leading contender to become the Republican party’s nominee for US presidential candidate, has called for a “total and complete shutdown” of the country’s borders to Muslims in the wake of the San Bernardino terrorist attack.

Trump made his most extreme pledge yet – in a race in which he has consistently pushed the boat out on issues of race and immigration – in a statement released to the media through his presidential campaign team.

[...]

Excerpt from:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/07/donald-trump-ban-all-muslims-entering-us-san-bernardino-shooting

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Oops.

Are you wishing now you left out the part about "Grow up, get a life, and get over it". Word to the wise; keep your words sweet, because that way they go down easier when you have to eat them.



Not really.

Trump has reiterated many times he did not intend a  permanently ban on Muslims. Only until the vetting issue was resolved, but I think you knew that before you posted your previous remark.

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Reply #1206 on: January 29, 2017, 03:34:37 AM
And let's remember Muslim is not a fucking RACE. There are white, black, yellow, whatever Muslims.

People are so god damned stupid they can't figure this out.  :facepalm:

Are you sure you're on the right thread, dear? You seem confused.



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Reply #1207 on: January 29, 2017, 03:35:43 AM

#BlackLivesMatter
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Reply #1208 on: January 29, 2017, 03:39:59 AM
At no time has Trump even implied he would ban anyone from entering our country because of their religion.

I realize it's been ten minutes since you wrote it, but we do have the record which you can refer back to.

I think maybe it's time for a retraction, yes?




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Reply #1209 on: January 29, 2017, 03:40:52 AM
And let's remember Muslim is not a fucking RACE. There are white, black, yellow, whatever Muslims.

People are so god damned stupid they can't figure this out.  :facepalm:

Are you sure you're on the right thread, dear? You seem confused.

You know if you were standing in front of me right now I would slap you so fucking silly everyone who was or ever would be related to you would feel it.



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Reply #1210 on: January 29, 2017, 03:44:10 AM
Breaking: Judge stays deportations; Trump order barring refugees, migrants from Muslim countries triggers chaos, outrage

Would you have the URL of that article Athos?
At no time has Trump even implied he would ban anyone from entering our country because of their religion.

I realize it's been ten minutes since you wrote it, but we do have the record which you can refer back to.

I think maybe it's time for a retraction, yes?



Which records are you referring too NW?
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Reply #1211 on: January 29, 2017, 03:44:42 AM
So are you saying "Muslim" is a race?

Is "Mexican" a race?

What other descriptives do you count as a "race"?


And let's remember Muslim is not a fucking RACE. There are white, black, yellow, whatever Muslims.

People are so god damned stupid they can't figure this out.  :facepalm:

Are you sure you're on the right thread, dear? You seem confused.

You know if you were standing in front of me right now I would slap you so fucking silly everyone who was or ever would be related to you would feel it.

Some people are like the 'slinky'. Not really good for much,
but they bring a smile to your face as they fall down stairs.


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Reply #1212 on: January 29, 2017, 03:46:03 AM
So are you saying "Muslim" is a race?

Is "Mexican" a race?

What other descriptives do you count as a "race"?


And let's remember Muslim is not a fucking RACE. There are white, black, yellow, whatever Muslims.

People are so god damned stupid they can't figure this out.  :facepalm:

Are you sure you're on the right thread, dear? You seem confused.

You know if you were standing in front of me right now I would slap you so fucking silly everyone who was or ever would be related to you would feel it.

Who are you addressing?



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Reply #1213 on: January 29, 2017, 03:48:34 AM
Trumps ban on Muslims are from nations that were in a list previously compiled by the Obama administration for additional scrutiny. Unfortunately they do not include other Muslim nations, some of which have had terrorists originating from them. However, those nations not on the list also have Trump enterprise efforts.

Conflict of interest applies to the President in terms of emoluments. And income from those could be interpreted as emollients.

Conflict of interest may be perceived as well as actual. In either case he now has engineered his own initial scandal.

Welcome to reality.
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Reply #1214 on: January 29, 2017, 03:49:21 AM
You know if you were standing in front of me right now I would slap you so fucking silly everyone who was or ever would be related to you would feel it.

LOL...




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Reply #1215 on: January 29, 2017, 03:51:43 AM

Conflict of interest applies to the President in terms of emoluments. And income from those could be interpreted as emollients.

Conflict of interest may be perceived as well as actual. In either case he now has engineered his own initial scandal.

Welcome to reality.

Countries where Trump does business are not hit by new travel restrictions

#BlackLivesMatter
Arrest The Cops Who Killed Breonna Taylor

#BanTheNaziFromKB


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Reply #1216 on: January 29, 2017, 03:52:51 AM

Conflict of interest applies to the President in terms of emoluments. And income from those could be interpreted as emollients.

Conflict of interest may be perceived as well as actual. In either case he now has engineered his own initial scandal.

Welcome to reality.

Countries where Trump does business are not hit by new travel restrictions

Well what a fuckin' surprise.

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Reply #1217 on: January 29, 2017, 03:53:25 AM
I believe each of Trump's Executive Actions addresses enforcement of existing law, where sometimes there was lower priority on that, perhaps. That Trump and Obama agreed on certain Nations that require additional vetting makes sense, and even more vetting than last year makes eminent sense to me.

So not all Mulsims are banned, exactly as intended. Actors from Nations with reason to believe all may not have Americans best interests in mind are the focus, seems, and seems like a great start.


Trumps ban on Muslims are from nations that were in a list previously compiled by the Obama administration for additional scrutiny. Unfortunately they do not include other Muslim nations, some of which have had terrorists originating from them. However, those nations also have Trimo enterprise effortsz

Conflict of interest applies to the President in terms of emoluments. And income from those could be interpreted as emollients.

Conflict of interest may be perceived as well as actual. In either case he now has engineered his own initial scandal.

Welcome to reality.

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Reply #1218 on: January 29, 2017, 03:59:39 AM
No Joan, you are missing the point. Trump is now positioned to financially benefit from that executive order. That is specifically not allowed in the constitution. Trump is engineering a Constitutional crisis.

This could actually be an impeachable offense.

From inauguration to impeachable offense in 7 days. A new record.

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Reply #1219 on: January 29, 2017, 04:03:30 AM
I believe each of Trump's Executive Actions addresses enforcement of existing law, where sometimes there was lower priority on that, perhaps. That Trump and Obama agreed on certain Nations that require additional vetting makes sense, and even more vetting than last year makes eminent sense to me.

So not all Mulsims are banned, exactly as intended. Actors from Nations with reason to believe all may not have Americans best interests in mind are the focus, seems, and seems like a great start.


Trumps ban on Muslims are from nations that were in a list previously compiled by the Obama administration for additional scrutiny. Unfortunately they do not include other Muslim nations, some of which have had terrorists originating from them. However, those nations also have Trimo enterprise effortsz

Conflict of interest applies to the President in terms of emoluments. And income from those could be interpreted as emollients.

Conflict of interest may be perceived as well as actual. In either case he now has engineered his own initial scandal.

Welcome to reality.

Wondering how easily a terrorist would be able to enter from a higher priority to a lesser priority country, thus gain entry into the US though? Such as Mexico.
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