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Reply #6440 on: September 02, 2020, 05:39:52 PM
  Actually, Trump believes peaceful protestors should be welcomed, overseen by local law enforcement, w/permits, porta-johns, organized, scheduled, not blocking traffic unless covered by their permit specifically etc... Follow the U.S. Constitution...

  Armed with any type of weapon, explosive devices, illegal fireworks, no permit, and/or in violation of curfews, in violation of demonstration permit for location, Hours and such, as well as any Looter, any Arsonist, anyone throwing bags of Urine, stones or objects, such individuals are NOT 'peaceful protestors', not entitled to Constitutional protections as such, and should, must be dealt with by local law enforcement, reinforced by State law enforcement, and if necessary to maintain the safety and order necessary in a civil environment, by National Guard resources from State Government, and as needed Federal Law Enforcement, and requested Federal assistance in ways necessary to maintain/restore order forthwith.

  Crossing State Lines to create disorder, or prior to creating disorder, is a Federal Crime, and subject to arrest and enforcement, and incarceration, fines, and so forth in all cases, to include those who conspire, or pay for support for such individuals, plane and other transport, clothing, shelter, hotels, and of course other riot support items. Conspiracy can include other support, as may be determined.

  Inquiries are under way as we chat, to determine and stop such conspirators, and to remove such financial and other support for such individuals and organizations.


Whatever.

The video shows that Trump belives demonstrators, practicing their 1st Amendment rights, should be beaten.  He calls upon his followers to do the beating. Any concern about that?

He also believes that looters should be killed.

When the looting starts then shooting starts.  Perhaps trump still think he's in the 60s and all those jive turkeys need to be executed.

If he really agrees with peaceful protests, he wouldnt have used gas and riot control officers to take a pointless stroll to a church he doesn't give a shit about.



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Reply #6441 on: September 02, 2020, 06:42:52 PM
  Attorney General Barr ordered the entire Lafayette Park area cleared, quite a while earlier than it was finally accomplished, since those present as peaceful protestors needed time to find transportation, and return to their residences, to comply with the Mayor's Curfew, as I recall.

  Peaceful Protestors follow Police commands, and want to be reminded of Curfew(s) in time to fully lawfully comply, of course, and quickly left the area, headed to their residences to comply.

  Uncooperative persons remained, violating the Police Commands, and threatening Officers who began a sweep of the Park, encouraging stragglers ahead of them to vacate, and comply lawfully... and responding to illegal activity as necessary, in order to comply with the order given by the U.S. Attorney General to clear the area.

  The Church noted, the one illegal arsonists has burned a day or more earlier, sits at the NorthEast corner of Lafayette Square, and the President decided to lead his guests to that Church, following a meeting he held at the White House.  He knew the AG had ordered the area cleared, and expected U.S. Secret Service to take the steps necessary for his Church visit, which they and Park Police did, of course.

  No peaceful protestors remained in the area, obviously, as peaceful, law abiding citizens and others had left, following Police Orders, attempting to fully comply with the Democrat Mayor of Washington, DC's Curfew Order.

  By definition, the peaceful protestors having left, the remaining persons, if any are considered willfully in violation of the Attorney General's Order, and non-lethal means were employed to remove same, and enforce the Curfew, and Police Orders.

  President Trump, and his group, not being subject to the Police Orders, or Curfew, expecting compliance by all in the area, one way or another, strolled calmly to the Church, and faced the usual Washington Press circus when Press members, crews press for space, and when 'Reporters' may vocalize random thoughts/questions.

  Leftist Reporters and Commentators characterized the events as they wished, with little regard for the reality of the day's events. I presume you read those reports.

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Reply #6442 on: September 02, 2020, 07:56:36 PM

Trump has just as many votes as Biden in this thread because there is nothing to stop people from voting twice by using additional profiles to cast their votes.  That is why it is not an "official" poll.

I'm shocked, just shocked that there are members here that have more then one profile. ;D ;D

Must be what Trump is thinking when he says he is worried the elections will be rigged... 8)

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Reply #6443 on: September 02, 2020, 10:28:51 PM
The dictionary defines peaceful as without War or violence.  That peace was only disturbed when law enforcement arrived and fired pepper balls at the crowd.  Holding signs and yelling or chanting does not make a peaceful protest non-peaceful.

So now the attorney general has ultimate say?  Trump didnt have the final call?

He couldn't look out at the crowd and say, "you know what? This pointless photo-OP my idiot daughter thought of, that will solve zero problems, isnt worth disrupting that peaceful protest."

Or since he isn't a scared coward and wasn't hiding in his bunker earlier.  He could have just walked to the church among the people he claims to have done more for, than any other president, "except maybe Lincoln" and held his prop bible upside down like the tremendous leader he thinks he is.

No matter your point of view, your argument, what documents you've got, He disturbed a peaceful protest by force in order to take a god damned picture.



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Reply #6444 on: September 03, 2020, 12:23:08 AM
  The 'peaceful' part of the demonstration that day ceased to exist, after any left the area in order to comply with the Democrat Mayor Bowser's city wide Curfew, and the persons who did not obey Police Orders to disperse in a timely manner, in fact were a group who chose to disobey lawful orders from Police, announced by BullHorn lots of times, but rather chose to engage the authorities enforcing such orders.

  Park Police led the clearing of Lafayette Square efforts, and the plan was for DC National Guard members to occupy the Square, and form protective cordons around infrastructure and statuary in that 'park', many of which had been defaced/damaged, and the Guard Members did their jobs well.

  Resisting anarchists and ne'er-do-well other persons, hangers' on, refused orders to disperse, and subjected themselves to forceful removal in some cases, and to non-lethal methods and munitions, as was needed, to affect the desired results.

  With the Square mostly free of illegal trespassers due to Park Police efforts, and the statuary and infrastructure occupied, made safe from further damage, National Guard members in place, U.S. Secret Service Officers, uniformed and plainclothes, were dispatched and assured the primary advanced planned paths, and alternate paths that could be necessary for the President of the United States, security and guests, so the event could proceed in the now secured space, empty of trespassers, and other unauthorized persons was assured.

  Some 'News' reports, and comments by leftist TV, and Cable show commentators not withstanding, the Presidential event was properly 'advanced' and proceeded well, without undue difficulty, in a secure manner.


 

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Reply #6445 on: September 03, 2020, 12:37:11 AM
Trump encourages North Carolina residents to vote twice to test mail-in system

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WASHINGTON —  Trump suggested that people in North Carolina should vote twice in the November election, once by mail and once in-person, escalating his attempts to cast confusion and doubt on the validity of the results.

"So let them send it in and let them go vote, and if their system's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote,” Trump said when asked whether he has confidence in the mail-in system in the battleground state.

"If it's as good as they say it is then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote. So that's the way it is. And that's what they should do," he said.

It is illegal to vote more than once in an election.

Trump has made countless false statements about the security of voting by mail ahead of the 2020 election, as much of the country braces for an increase of voters to opt for mail-in ballots amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

"I don't like that," Trump responded when a reporter told him that 600,000 voters in North Carolina, a critical battleground state, could vote absentee.

When asked about Trump's comments during an interview later Wednesday with CNN, Attorney General William Barr argued that a 2005 bipartisan report on election reform found that mail-in voting is "fraught with the risk of fraud and coercion."

Asked why there have been no findings, however, of widespread fraud, Barr responded: "We haven't had the kind of widespread use of mail-in ballots that's being proposed."

Barr said he was unaware of the specific laws in North Carolina and did not respond directly to questions about Trump's earlier comments.

Trump made similar claims about mail-in ballots during his 2016 campaign, essentially encouraging his supporters to commit voter fraud.

At a rally in Colorado just days before he was elected, Trump told supporters to obtain new ballots because “do you think those (mail-in) ballots are properly counted?”

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Reply #6446 on: September 03, 2020, 05:32:50 AM
You can talk curfew and peaceful, or non cooperative persons till you are blue in the face.  Bottom line.  It was trumps call.  He had the mayor change the curfew time to 7 pm thay day so trump could take his pointless fucking walk to church he didnt give a shit about. He wanted a photo-OP pretending to be a strong and fearless leader.  A fucking statement that ment fuck all to pretty much everybody.

Who here has that picture of trump holding his prop bible and looks at it think, wow what a courageous leader.  I bet dollars to doughnuts not single fucking person does except maybe trump himself.

Let me put it plainly.  Were it up to me, I'd say hey it isnt worth making a scene just to take a god damned picture.  Let's focus on getting law and order back before I start posing for the fucking camera.  Let them peacefully protest and let's figure something else out.

Not trump though, he was probably a little disappointed that law enforcement didn't use lethal rounds.  Because you know he doesnt want them voting, because they sure as hell wont be voting for him.



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Reply #6447 on: September 03, 2020, 03:19:16 PM
  And of course little is actually up to you, thankfully.

  The Mayor sets the Curfew for our Capitol City, and when un-peaceful individuals looted, broke store windows, and assaulted business owners in the process, under the cover of "peaceful protesting" on the previous evening, and many prior to that, the Mayor recognized, perhaps with some prompting, that the 11pm Curfew was not a wise limit, for this crowd.

  7PM was given as the official limit for anyone to remain in public, without specific permission, and all in violation faced enforcement, including arrest, per her Order.

  By definition, Peaceful persons, protesting or not protesting, are expected to obey the law, and to get off the city streets so as to comply.  So, no peaceful protestors were expected to be at or on Lafayette Square in the run up to legal curfew time, and those individuals who remained were by definition disobeying the law, as well as disobeying direct issued by bullhorn Police Orders to vacate that space.

  The coordination required among law enforcement agencies and National Guard leadership and members, responding to RIOT conditions by illegally assembled men and women, and for Secret Service Advance, and Alternate Route clearing, is always tricky, and your crowd, the Biden Supporters as you self describe them, only responded to harsh non-lethal encouragement, in this instance.

  Presidents kind of expect their schedules to proceed, relatively on time, and since President Trump went directly from the White House Meeting, to lead his Cabinet and others on a tour of the damage done, including damage to Saint John's Church, not much further 'ordering' was necessary by him directly.

  The purpose of the visit was accomplished, despite best efforts of anarchists who had previously terrorized and 'occupied' the space where the tour was planned. You can usually count upon our President to carry out plans, without regard to enemies and thugs who seek disruption for their own reasons.

  Thank you for following along...

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Reply #6448 on: September 04, 2020, 01:17:28 AM
Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

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When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.

Belleau Wood is a consequential battle in American history, and the ground on which it was fought is venerated by the Marine Corps. America and its allies stopped the German advance toward Paris there in the spring of 1918. But Trump, on that same trip, asked aides, “Who were the good guys in this war?” He also said that he didn’t understand why the United States would intervene on the side of the Allies.

Trump’s understanding of concepts such as patriotism, service, and sacrifice have interested me since he expressed contempt for the war record of the late Senator John McCain, who spent more than five years as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese. “He’s not a war hero,” Trump said in 2015 while running for the Republican nomination for president. “I like people who weren’t captured.”

There was no precedent in American politics for the expression of this sort of contempt, but the performatively patriotic Trump did no damage to his candidacy by attacking McCain in this manner. Nor did he set his campaign back by attacking the parents of Humayun Khan, an Army captain who was killed in Iraq in 2004.

Trump remained fixated on McCain, one of the few prominent Republicans to continue criticizing him after he won the nomination. When McCain died, in August 2018, Trump told his senior staff, according to three sources with direct knowledge of this event, “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,” and he became furious, according to witnesses, when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. “What the fuck are we doing that for? Guy was a fucking loser,” the president told aides. Trump was not invited to McCain’s funeral. (These sources, and others quoted in this article, spoke on condition of anonymity. The White House did not return earlier calls for comment, but Alyssa Farah, a White House spokesperson, emailed me this statement shortly after this story was posted: “This report is false. President Trump holds the military in the highest regard. He’s demonstrated his commitment to them at every turn: delivering on his promise to give our troops a much needed pay raise, increasing military spending, signing critical veterans reforms, and supporting military spouses. This has no basis in fact.”)

Trump’s understanding of heroism has not evolved since he became president. According to sources with knowledge of the president’s views, he seems to genuinely not understand why Americans treat former prisoners of war with respect. Nor does he understand why pilots who are shot down in combat are honored by the military. On at least two occasions since becoming president, according to three sources with direct knowledge of his views, Trump referred to former President George H. W. Bush as a “loser” for being shot down by the Japanese as a Navy pilot in World War II. (Bush escaped capture, but eight other men shot down during the same mission were caught, tortured, and executed by Japanese soldiers.)

When lashing out at critics, Trump often reaches for illogical and corrosive insults, and members of the Bush family have publicly opposed him. But his cynicism about service and heroism extends even to the World War I dead buried outside Paris—people who were killed more than a quarter century before he was born. Trump finds the notion of military service difficult to understand, and the idea of volunteering to serve especially incomprehensible. (The president did not serve in the military; he received a medical deferment from the draft during the Vietnam War because of the alleged presence of bone spurs in his feet. In the 1990s, Trump said his efforts to avoid contracting sexually transmitted diseases constituted his “personal Vietnam.”)

On Memorial Day 2017, Trump visited Arlington National Cemetery, a short drive from the White House. He was accompanied on this visit by John Kelly, who was then the secretary of homeland security, and who would, a short time later, be named the White House chief of staff. The two men were set to visit Section 60, the 14-acre area of the cemetery that is the burial ground for those killed in America’s most recent wars. Kelly’s son Robert is buried in Section 60. A first lieutenant in the Marine Corps, Robert Kelly was killed in 2010 in Afghanistan. He was 29. Trump was meant, on this visit, to join John Kelly in paying respects at his son’s grave, and to comfort the families of other fallen service members. But according to sources with knowledge of this visit, Trump, while standing by Robert Kelly’s grave, turned directly to his father and said, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” Kelly (who declined to comment for this story) initially believed, people close to him said, that Trump was making a ham-handed reference to the selflessness of America’s all-volunteer force. But later he came to realize that Trump simply does not understand non-transactional life choices.

“He can’t fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself,” one of Kelly’s friends, a retired four-star general, told me. “He just thinks that anyone who does anything when there’s no direct personal gain to be had is a sucker. There’s no money in serving the nation.” Kelly’s friend went on to say, “Trump can’t imagine anyone else’s pain. That’s why he would say this to the father of a fallen marine on Memorial Day in the cemetery where he’s buried.”

I’ve asked numerous general officers over the past year for their analysis of Trump’s seeming contempt for military service. They offer a number of explanations. Some of his cynicism is rooted in frustration, they say. Trump, unlike previous presidents, tends to believe that the military, like other departments of the federal government, is beholden only to him, and not the Constitution. Many senior officers have expressed worry about Trump’s understanding of the rules governing the use of the armed forces. This issue came to a head in early June, during demonstrations in Washington, D.C., in response to police killings of Black people. James Mattis, the retired Marine general and former secretary of defense, lambasted Trump at the time for ordering law-enforcement officers to forcibly clear protesters from Lafayette Square, and for using soldiers as props: “When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution,” Mattis wrote. “Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.”

Another explanation is more quotidian, and aligns with a broader understanding of Trump’s material-focused worldview. The president believes that nothing is worth doing without the promise of monetary payback, and that talented people who don’t pursue riches are “losers.” (According to eyewitnesses, after a White House briefing given by the then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Joe Dunford, Trump turned to aides and said, “That guy is smart. Why did he join the military?”)

Yet another, related, explanation concerns what appears to be Trump’s pathological fear of appearing to look like a “sucker” himself. His capacious definition of sucker includes those who lose their lives in service to their country, as well as those who are taken prisoner, or are wounded in battle. “He has a lot of fear,” one officer with firsthand knowledge of Trump’s views said. “He doesn’t see the heroism in fighting.” Several observers told me that Trump is deeply anxious about dying or being disfigured, and this worry manifests itself as disgust for those who have suffered. Trump recently claimed that he has received the bodies of slain service members “many, many” times, but in fact he has traveled to Dover Air Force Base, the transfer point for the remains of fallen service members, only four times since becoming president. In another incident, Trump falsely claimed that he had called “virtually all” of the families of service members who had died during his term, then began rush-shipping condolence letters when families said the president was not telling the truth.

Trump has been, for the duration of his presidency, fixated on staging military parades, but only of a certain sort. In a 2018 White House planning meeting for such an event, Trump asked his staff not to include wounded veterans, on grounds that spectators would feel uncomfortable in the presence of amputees. “Nobody wants to see that,” he said.

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Reply #6449 on: September 04, 2020, 01:59:42 AM
Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.



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Reply #6450 on: September 04, 2020, 05:15:53 AM
Trump urged his voters to vote twice in 2016 as well.  One woman who did as he instructed was thrown in jail for doing so.  Voting more than once is a crime.  He should be arrested for soliciting a crime.



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Reply #6451 on: September 04, 2020, 12:39:05 PM
Donald Trump Furious at The Atlantic Claiming He Disparaged Fallen Soldiers

President Donald Trump on Thursday night personally denounced a story published by The Atlantic, which cited anonymous sources that claim Trump described America’s fallen heroes as “suckers” and “losers.”

“To think that I would make statements negative to our military and our fallen heroes … it is a disgraceful situation by a magazine that’s a terrible magazine,” Donald Trump said. “I don’t read it, but I just heard about it.”

Trump spoke after he landed at Andrews Air Force Base after returning late from a campaign rally at an airport in Wisconsin.

“It’s a total lie; it’s fake news. It’s a disgrace, and frankly its a disgrace to your profession,” he said to reporters who did not expect him to speak after exiting Air Force One. Video footage of his remarks featured the president denouncing the story in the dark.

The Atlantic story cited anonymous sources who claimed that Trump did not want to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery at the site of Battle of Belleau Wood during his visit to Paris in 2018 and that he was worried about his hair in the rain. The sources also claimed that Trump said the cemetery was “filled with losers” and that the Marines who died at Belleau Wood were “suckers” for being killed.

But Trump was adamant that the story was completely false, calling the report “unthinkable.”

“They made it up and probably it’s a couple of people that have been failures in the administration that I got rid of and I couldn’t get rid of them fast enough,” he said. “Or it was just made up, but it’s unthinkable.”

Trump repeated the series of events that took place in Paris: his presence at the ceremony at the cemetery was canceled because it was unsafe to fly Marine One to the site due to fog and rain.
 
A presidential motorcade, he asserted, was out of the question because it would involve French police trying to shut down the busiest parts of Paris to make way for a last-minute trip.

“The Secret Service told me, ‘you can’t do it,'” he said.

The president denounced the anonymous sources for The Atlantic article as worse than animals.

“What animal would say such a thing?” he asked.

“If people really exist that would have said that, they’re lowlifes and they’re liars,” Trump said. “And I would be willing to swear on anything that I never said that about our fallen heroes. There is nobody that respects that more.”

Several members of the White House team, who were present for the trip, also publicly denounced the story on Twitter.

“The Atlantic story on Donald Trump is total BS,” wrote former White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders. “I was actually there and one of the people part of the discussion – this never happened.”

Sanders said she was “disgusted” by the attack published in The Atlantic, recalling the moments that President Trump met with veterans.

“These were some of the moments I witnessed the President show his heart and demonstrate how much he respects the selfless and courageous men and women of our military,” she said.

Jordan Karem, the president’s body man during the trip, also weighed in on Twitter.

“Again, this is 100% false. I was next to the president the whole day!” he wrote. “The President was greatly disappointed when told we couldn’t fly there. He was incredibly eager to honor our Fallen Heroes.”

Senior adviser to the president, Stephen Miller, who was also present for the trip, described the story as a “despicable lie.”

“The president deeply wanted to attend the memorial event in question and was deeply displeased by the bad weather call,” he said in comments to the Washington Examiner.

Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications Dan Scavino also said he was with the president after the trip was canceled due to bad weather.

“There is literally not one thing ‘reported’ from France that is accurate or true, 100% complete lies!” he wrote. “This is a politically motivated hit piece, on the President of the United States, 60 days before a presidential election. A total disgrace!!”

The Atlantic story also claimed that Trump said that deceased Sen. John McCain was “a fucking loser” and did not want to lower flags to half-staff when he passed away.

But Trump said that he still respected McCain despite their disagreements and approved all of the honors for his funeral.

“I disagreed with John McCain, but I still respected him and I had to approve his funeral as president,” he said.

Trump said he approved the funeral and the plane transporting his body to Washington, DC, for recognition, “without hesitation and without complaint.”

“I felt he deserved it,” Trump said. “I disagreed with him on things and he was a tough guy, and I felt he deserved it.”


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Reply #6453 on: September 04, 2020, 04:08:19 PM
Donald Trump Furious at The Atlantic Claiming He Disparaged Fallen Soldiers

President Donald Trump on Thursday night personally denounced a story published by The Atlantic, which cited anonymous sources that claim Trump described America’s fallen heroes as “suckers” and “losers.”

“To think that I would make statements negative to our military and our fallen heroes … it is a disgraceful situation by a magazine that’s a terrible magazine,” Donald Trump said. “I don’t read it, but I just heard about it.”

Trump spoke after he landed at Andrews Air Force Base after returning late from a campaign rally at an airport in Wisconsin.

“It’s a total lie; it’s fake news. It’s a disgrace, and frankly its a disgrace to your profession,” he said to reporters who did not expect him to speak after exiting Air Force One. Video footage of his remarks featured the president denouncing the story in the dark.

The Atlantic story cited anonymous sources who claimed that Trump did not want to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery at the site of Battle of Belleau Wood during his visit to Paris in 2018 and that he was worried about his hair in the rain. The sources also claimed that Trump said the cemetery was “filled with losers” and that the Marines who died at Belleau Wood were “suckers” for being killed.

But Trump was adamant that the story was completely false, calling the report “unthinkable.”

“They made it up and probably it’s a couple of people that have been failures in the administration that I got rid of and I couldn’t get rid of them fast enough,” he said. “Or it was just made up, but it’s unthinkable.”

Trump repeated the series of events that took place in Paris: his presence at the ceremony at the cemetery was canceled because it was unsafe to fly Marine One to the site due to fog and rain.
 
A presidential motorcade, he asserted, was out of the question because it would involve French police trying to shut down the busiest parts of Paris to make way for a last-minute trip.

“The Secret Service told me, ‘you can’t do it,'” he said.

The president denounced the anonymous sources for The Atlantic article as worse than animals.

“What animal would say such a thing?” he asked.

“If people really exist that would have said that, they’re lowlifes and they’re liars,” Trump said. “And I would be willing to swear on anything that I never said that about our fallen heroes. There is nobody that respects that more.”

Several members of the White House team, who were present for the trip, also publicly denounced the story on Twitter.

“The Atlantic story on Donald Trump is total BS,” wrote former White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders. “I was actually there and one of the people part of the discussion – this never happened.”

Sanders said she was “disgusted” by the attack published in The Atlantic, recalling the moments that President Trump met with veterans.

“These were some of the moments I witnessed the President show his heart and demonstrate how much he respects the selfless and courageous men and women of our military,” she said.

Jordan Karem, the president’s body man during the trip, also weighed in on Twitter.

“Again, this is 100% false. I was next to the president the whole day!” he wrote. “The President was greatly disappointed when told we couldn’t fly there. He was incredibly eager to honor our Fallen Heroes.”

Senior adviser to the president, Stephen Miller, who was also present for the trip, described the story as a “despicable lie.”

“The president deeply wanted to attend the memorial event in question and was deeply displeased by the bad weather call,” he said in comments to the Washington Examiner.

Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications Dan Scavino also said he was with the president after the trip was canceled due to bad weather.

“There is literally not one thing ‘reported’ from France that is accurate or true, 100% complete lies!” he wrote. “This is a politically motivated hit piece, on the President of the United States, 60 days before a presidential election. A total disgrace!!”

The Atlantic story also claimed that Trump said that deceased Sen. John McCain was “a fucking loser” and did not want to lower flags to half-staff when he passed away.

But Trump said that he still respected McCain despite their disagreements and approved all of the honors for his funeral.

“I disagreed with John McCain, but I still respected him and I had to approve his funeral as president,” he said.

Trump said he approved the funeral and the plane transporting his body to Washington, DC, for recognition, “without hesitation and without complaint.”

“I felt he deserved it,” Trump said. “I disagreed with him on things and he was a tough guy, and I felt he deserved it.”


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/03/donald-trump-furious-atlantic-claiming-disparaged-fallen-soldiers/


If John Kelly swears it didn’t happen, I’d believe it.  Except I expect him to remain silent on the issue of calling Trump a liar.



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Reply #6454 on: September 04, 2020, 04:14:42 PM
Sanders Says Trump Joked About Her ‘Taking One for the Team’ With Kim Jong-un

Sarah Huckabee Sanders writes in a new book that after Mr. Kim winked at her, President Trump joked that “you’re going to North Korea,’’ “your husband and kids will miss you, but you’ll be a hero to your country!”
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Reply #6455 on: September 04, 2020, 06:00:55 PM
The Associated Press confirmed the Belleau Wood story shortly after The Atlantic published it.

https://twitter.com/JimLaPorta/status/1301702233537605632?s=19

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Reply #6456 on: September 04, 2020, 10:20:14 PM
Fox News is now confirming Trump's disparaging remarks on veterans.

https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1301975321495973889

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Reply #6457 on: September 04, 2020, 10:28:51 PM
Veterans know a complete bullshit artist when they see one.  Trump is unfit to serve.  Unfit to lead.





President Donald Trump—who reportedly referred to injured and killed U.S. soldiers as “losers”—is also apparently confused as to why the government values finding soldiers missing in action. He told senior advisers those soldiers had performed poorly, gotten caught and therefore deserved what they got, according to The Washington Post. The account followed an explosive report by The Atlantic on Thursday that outlined Trump’s deep disdain for the military members, both dead and alive. The president, who famously dodged the Vietnam War draft due to bone spurs, called military members and marines “losers” and “suckers”—either because they died, were captured, or didn’t manage to evade the draft.



Trump has now ordered the 159 year old Stars and Stripes, the military paper for US service members since the Civil War, to stop printing by September 15.  Trump reportedly feels the paper has put him in an unfavorable light.
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Reply #6458 on: September 04, 2020, 11:30:08 PM
About an hour ago he sent out a tweet saying they are not cutting funding.  Guess he figured it would make him look even worse... if that's even possible



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Reply #6459 on: September 05, 2020, 02:07:25 AM


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