The Trump thread: All things Donald

[watcher1]

I am sure there will be many families where those who can vote will vote differently from their spouses or siblings.

[staci]

What happened to "United we stand" Devided we fall" smh?

[Piper-Dreams]

What happened to "United we stand" Devided we fall" smh?

It's still there under Mr. Trump! You just have to be white is all. 

[Lois]

It seems a Trump advisor, New Hampshire state representative Al Baldasaro, has made a second call for the execution of Hillary Clinton.

While there were times certain Democratic activists have called for Bush to be put on trail for war crimes, that is a far call from calling for the execution of a political opponent.

I've always said that the difference between America and some countries, is that we don't murder each other over political disagreements.  I hope that does not change. 

[herschel]

"I've always said that the difference between America and some countries, is that we don't murder each other over political disagreements.  I hope that does not change."

Tell that to JFK, JFK Jr, RFK and MLK.

[Katiebee]

There is a great difference between lone madmen, and political agents.

Perhaps the difference is that one is driven by personal belief, and the latter by personal greed.

[Lois]

What I meant is death squads, and the apparatus of the state used to jail, torture and murder political opponents.

[Lois]

Trump has called for the Russians to hack Hillary's computers to find her missing emails.  Once again, Trump is being condemned by fellow Republicans for this newest remark.  This shatters all precedent, as disaffected conservatives receive one more sign that their party’s nominee is catastrophically unfit for office.

Think about it: Trump has called for state-sponsored Russian hackers to conduct cyber espionage on the United States for his electoral benefit. (Security experts have found evidence that Russia was involved in the hack, and subsequent leak, of a cache of Democratic National Committee emails, which has cast a shadow over the Democrats’ convention in Philadelphia this week.)

William Inboden, who served on the NSC during the George W. Bush administration, said Trump’s comments were “tantamount to treason”:

“Trump’s appeal for a foreign government hostile to the United States to manipulate our electoral process is not an assault on Hillary Clinton, it is an assault on the Constitution,”

[Lois]

This reminds me of Joan, sitting at home thinking about her Great Leader. 

[joan1984]

How quickly some forget the Hollywood movies about killing W... nothing new here, Democrats kill, or try to kill Presidents, both parties... stuff happens...

It seems a Trump advisor, New Hampshire state representative Al Baldasaro, has made a second call for the execution of Hillary Clinton.

While there were times certain Democratic activists have called for Bush to be put on trail for war crimes, that is a far call from calling for the execution of a political opponent.

I've always said that the difference between America and some countries, is that we don't murder each other over political disagreements.  I hope that does not change. 

[watcher1]

The Houston Chronicle, who had endorsed Nixon every time he ran, Reagan twice and the Bushes four times are now endorsing Hillary Clinton for president, citing Trump as a "danger to the Republic."

[joan1984]

Who did the Houston Chronicle endorse during the Republican Primary?
  Jeb Bush? Ted Cruz?  Did anyone cheer for their pick at that time?

The choice we have is Hillary Clinton/Kaine vs. Donald Trump/Pence.
 
   If you liked the accomplishments of Hillary, and her actions at State,
and want more of the above (Egypt/Libya/Iran/Ukraine/Bengazi, etc.) then
Vote for Hillary... you will get four more years of low economic activity, same as we have had with Obama; four more years of racial division; four more years of no borders when it comes to the terrorists passing through Mexico; four more years of Syrian "refugees", mostly 18 to 30 year old men of fighting age, and who knows what Ideology, who knows what political intent; four more years of totally poliiticised Washington as to Congress and Executive Branch gridlock.

   Is that what you want?

   Add to that, 40 years at least of Supreme Court in the hands of the likes of Ginzberg, and Sotameyer, and whoever the Clintons owe favors to, including some of Hillary's abortionist friends... If you want Elizabeth Warren hectoring whenever you watch the News on your TV... along with Pelosi and Reid, and Chuck Schummer, and of course Obama is not going anywhere, will live in DC in a multimillion dollar house "to watch his daughter graduate HS", right, and to comment on a daily basis on every action that threatens his Agenda...

   Add to that the spectacle of the "second" Clinton Impeachment, and all the chaos that will bring, as the FBI and others continue their criminal probes of Hillary and her emails (declined to recommend charges to date, but have not stopped, or even reached the peak of investigations into the scandal, and the investigation of The Clinton Foundation which FBI Director refused comment, as it is an active investigation... lots more to come...

If that is what you want, vote Hillary... if not, vote for the only person who can win the Presidency, of those running, and save your children, and grandchildren while you still can.

Vote Trump/Pence...

The Houston Chronicle, who had endorsed Nixon every time he ran, Reagan twice and the Bushes four times are now endorsing Hillary Clinton for president, citing Trump as a "danger to the Republic."

[Lois]

How quickly some forget the Hollywood movies about killing W... nothing new here, Democrats kill, or try to kill Presidents, both parties... stuff happens...

A movie?  Really? Made in very poor taste, I'm sure.  Thankfully, I never even heard about it and certainly never saw such a movie.  However, there is a difference between fantasy and reality. I hope you know the difference.

This Trump advisor was calling for execution.  He meant it.  He was not trying to be cute.

[Lois]

 If you liked the accomplishments of Hillary, and her actions at State,
and want more of the above (Egypt/Libya/Iran/Ukraine/Bengazi, etc.)

Are you suggesting that Hillary was responsible for the Arab Spring?  I think you are assigning her too much power. THe people in these countries were addressing grievances they had with their governments. As for the Ukraine, are you saying that Hillary is responsible for the acts of Vladimir Putin?

Regarding Benghazi, why not blame Congress for cutting funds for embassy security?  Also, Hillary certainly did not order Mr. Stevens to go to Benghazi, he went because he thought it was a good idea at the time.

Further, military actions are decided by Obama on the advisement of U.S. Defense Secretary and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, not Hillary.

Vote for Hillary... you will get four more years of low economic activity, same as we have had with Obama; four more years of racial division; four more years of no borders when it comes to the terrorists passing through Mexico; four more years of Syrian "refugees", mostly 18 to 30 year old men of fighting age, and who knows what Ideology, who knows what political intent; four more years of totally politicised Washington as to Congress and Executive Branch gridlock.

Actually the economy is doing fairly well considering the mess George Bush left of things.  Clinton left office with a surplus.  Bush squandered it with tax cuts that left America in debt, plus getting involved in two wars. I understand our actions in Afghanistan, but why the invasion of Iraq?  It has left the entire region unstabilized and led to the birth of ISIS.

And what terrorists have come in from Mexico? Plus, the refugees are well screened. The ones that have gone of the rails were radicalized after they arrived here, along with several "white" Americans that have left to fight for ISIS.

Add to that, 40 years at least of Supreme Court in the hands of the likes of Ginzberg, and Sotameyer

Just two?  I would think that the court in liberal hands meant the majority of of the seven Justices ar liberal. And yes, I would be happy with Hillary's SC picks.  I would like the SC to rule that corporations are not people, and thus Citizens United will be overturned. I also want to preserve a woman's right to choose because I believe in free will.  Such a decision is hers to make, hopefully with consultation with the father and her family.

If you want Elizabeth Warren hectoring whenever you watch the News on your TV... along with Pelosi and Reid, and Chuck Schummer, and of course Obama is not going anywhere, will live in DC in a multi-million dollar house "to watch his daughter graduate HS",

No problem with me, and actually look forward to Obama serving on the Supreme Court.  And what's the problem with Obama living in a house he can afford?  He earned his money through hard work.  Could it be partisanship?  You certainly aren't criticizing Republicans from doing the same. Have you seen Trump's residence?

Add to that the spectacle of the "second" Clinton Impeachment, and all the chaos that will bring, as the FBI and others continue their criminal probes of Hillary and her emails (declined to recommend charges to date, but have not stopped, or even reached the peak of investigations into the scandal, and the investigation of The Clinton Foundation which FBI Director refused comment, as it is an active investigation... lots more to come...

No not really. No special investigator spending lots of government money to discover Bill Clinton had an affair, that was no one's business except for his wife.

If that is what you want, vote Hillary... if not, vote for the only person who can win the Presidency, of those running, and save your children, and grandchildren while you still can.

I will vote Hillary because Trump is a danger to the Republic.  I fear that Trump would bring the end of democracy as we know in the USA. He would upset the balance of powers established by the US Constitution and use his executive power to persecute his enemies in the press and political opponents.  He has already made threats that he will do so.  Is that what you want?

[joan1984]

Lois, you can answer all your own questions... would be nice to see you from your own personal point of view, but if you must quote Obama speeches, then also quote the Pinnochios associated with them.

The economy has been lower under President Obama than under virtually any other President, with GDP Growth under 3% for all his years in charge, and no prospect of going much higher in his future, or in Hillary's future, as she has pledged the Third Term of Obama!  And she wants more borrowing, more spending, more taxes, and more of all the free stuff, and NO WAY to pay for it that is realistic... not even a real attempt.

Thought you may enjoy this gem:
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July 31, 2016, 04:13 pm
Khizr Khan was tricked into
smearing Donald Trump
By Charles Hurt

Khizr Khan is a fine American and the father of a true American patriot. But now he is also everything that is wrong with American politics today.

It is not entirely his fault, though he has only himself to blame for allowing his dead son to be used for the most hideous of purposes and dragged through the gutter of nasty and dishonest partisan politics.

Khan and his wife took to the stage at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia last week to deliver an impassioned rebuke of Donald J.Trump that was universally celebrated by the media. Even Republican politicos swooned at the gambit. The Clinton campaign trotted out the Muslim couple because their son, Captain Humayun Khan, was killed by a car bomb in 2004 while guarding a base in Iraq.
“If it was up to Donald Trump, he never would have been in America,” said Khan, sliding easily into the political tradition of lying and distorting the position of one’s opponent.

“Donald Trump consistently smears the character of Muslims,” he went on. “He disrespects other minorities, women, judges, even his own party leadership. He vows to build walls and ban us from this country.”

Despite all efforts by the media to distort Trump’s position about “banning” Muslims, he has made perfectly clear time and again that he does not want to ban all Muslims. He wants to simply perform thorough and complete background checks on all immigrants coming from countries presently in the grips of violent Islamic terrorism.

Yes, that means if you are a Muslim who wants to immigrate from Syria or Afghanistan, you are going to get a lot more scrutiny than if you are a Jew trying to immigrate from Canada. That is most unfortunate, but not nearly as unfortunate as innocents getting slaughtered by 10th Century savages killing in the name of Allah.

Anyway, this higher scrutiny should be no obstacle for the likes of Khizr Khan and his family, except for the additional hassle.

So, why would Khizr Khan choose to insert himself into politics and demean his son’s sacrifice by lying at a political convention on national television?

The answer is simple: He allowed himself to be tricked into it. And the Clinton campaign was all too eager to take advantage of him and his family and Capt. Khan and use them for their own political partisan purposes.

Stop for a moment and ask yourself how exactly the Clinton campaign arrived at the decision to trot out the Khan family in the middle of their highly-choreographed, exhaustively produced convention?

Were they just looking to give voice to the parents of a soldier? That would be a first. Did they want parents of anyone who had died abroad in the defense of their country? Gee, why not pick the parents of one of the fallen warriors who died defending the U.S. consulate in Benghazi? Oh, that’s right. They would have called Hillary Clinton a liar. Can’t have that.

No. Politicians like Hillary Clinton do not see people like Capt. Humayun Khan as a soldier who made the ultimate sacrifice on a foreign battlefield in defense of his country.

Politicians like Hillary Clinton see him only a demographic, a dispensable political pawn to be scooted around an electoral map, the way generals used to move armies across giant maps of the lands they were invading.

But instead of liberating Europe from evil fascists, politicians like Hillary Clinton use their long, worn croupier rakes to move their pawns about with the singular goal of advancing their own personal political careers.

To her, Capt. Khan is not a just soldier who died defending his country in a foreign land. First and foremost, to her, he is a Muslim of Pakistani heritage and therefore is a perfect political pawn for just the right situation.

For just about every American alive, Capt. Khan is an inspiring and unifying figure. To Hillary Clinton, he is a tool to be used to divide people. In her false promise of unifying America, she creates a national political Babylon. Her avaricious greed for more and more power knows no bounds.

It is an open secret in Washington that politics is the last bastion of rampant racial profiling. Both parties do it, but Democrats have taken it to a whole new scientific level.

Politicians like Hillary Clinton slice and dice people into racial and gender groups. Then they toot on all their little “dog whistles” to send all their little demographic pawns scurrying in various directions. That is how you wind up with Khizr Khan standing on stage beside his head-scarved wife, waving around the U.S. Constitution and distorting Donald Trump’s position on keeping radical Islamic terrorism at bay.

Perhaps a better testimony from Khizr Khan would have been for him to talk about how Hillary Clinton was in the U.S. Senate when she voted to invade Iraq. Years later, after that position became politically unpopular, she changed her mind and joined new political forces to vacate all the land across Iraq that so many great American patriots like Capt. Humayun Khan had died for.

It was her vote that sent Capt. Khan to his death. And then it was her decisions later to render that sacrifice worthless.

Try sticking that into your dog whistle and blowing it.

Hurt writes the "Nuclear Option" column for The Washington Times. A former D.C. bureau chief for the New York Post, he has covered the White House, Congress and presidential campaigns since 2001. Follow him on Twitter @charleshurt.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/289932-khizer-khan-was-tricked-into-smearing-donald-trump

[Piper-Dreams]

Lois, you can answer all your own questions... would be nice to see you from your own personal point of view, but if you must quote Obama speeches, then also quote the Pinnochios associated with them.

The economy has been lower under President Obama than under virtually any other President, with GDP Growth under 3% for all his years in charge, and no prospect of going much higher in his future, or in Hillary's future, as she has pledged the Third Term of Obama!  And she wants more borrowing, more spending, more taxes, and more of all the free stuff, and NO WAY to pay for it that is realistic... not even a real attempt.

Sounds like pretty much every GOP President as well. 

[watcher1]

Not the first time Trump made a stupid comment relating to a veteran.  His remark about McCain was idiotic and now to go after someone who gave their life for their country borders on sheer ignorance and stupidity. 

[joan1984]

   And the ridicule of the mother of the dead in Benghazi? Chopped liver? Something stinks about this 2004 death being the focal point of a Democrat Convention in 2016. Will see as some fact check this family, and their links to the Clinton Foundation and other players.

   Medal Of Honor recipients were booed at the Democrat Convention. This was not a patriotic bunch in Philadelphia, but a smear campaign worthy of being called on it... would I rather Trump had a "James Carville" as his attack dog? of course, and what is done is done.

   This was on day 100, and am sure day 99, day 98, and so forth will each have their own anti-Trump revelations, supported by mainstream media cheer leaders and RINO Republicans, as the Hillary backers roll on.

   Jeh Johnson of Homeland Security slipped the shiv to us overnight, with over 8000 Syrian illegals being granted temporary Amnesty long into the Trump Administration to come.

[TinyDancer]

Blah, blah, blah...........................

Come on Joan, deep down, you have to admit that Trump as President would be just as bad as having Hillary.

America should just boycott the election....nobody vote.  Both parties did a piss poor job choosing nominees.  Only thing worse is if, God forbid, we go to war Obama will get a third term.

[staci]

What provisions are there for a President Elect to just quit? Trump has such short temper and a record of "bailing out" when things don't go his way. He scares me and I feel that if things get too tough, he will say "you never wanted me in the first place, Goodbye". I don't particularly like his opponent but think it will take her much longer to mess things up than him.