The Trump thread: All things Donald

[Shiela_M]

One lady that is a nurse said she hopes he ends up on her floor.

Just send him back to the White House and remind him it is just a hoax.

[Lois]

Boris Johnson got Covid and it seemed to improve his character.  Maybe it would improve Trump's too, providing it does not kill him and we get stuck with Pence.

[_priapism]

Trump suffers Mother’s Day meltdown: Tweets and retweets incomprehensible gibberish 126 times from White House bunker.

[watcher1]

It is not only Mother's Day when he has had a meltdown. He is behind Biden in the polls and the economy is in the tanks and he still argues with reporters who ask him questions.

[_priapism]

It is not only Mother's Day when he has had a meltdown. He is behind Biden in the polls and the economy is in the tanks and he still argues with reporters who ask him questions.

Was it today he told an Asian reporter to “go ask China?”  I swear to fucking God, we have never had a less presidential POTUS.

[Jed_]

It is not only Mother's Day when he has had a meltdown. He is behind Biden in the polls and the economy is in the tanks and he still argues with reporters who ask him questions.

Was it today he told an Asian reporter to “go ask China?”  I swear to fucking God, we have never had a less presidential POTUS.

It was yesterday.  A disgraceful display for the orange clown.

[Hard_as_ironman]

His ignorance and his arrogance are in a 24 hour battle for control and it erupts from his cockholster (mouth) as inept gibberish.  He's been in charge of businesses for so long he isn't used to people attacking him non-stop without being able to fire them or sue them.  Now that he's in a position where he is under scrutiny from not only our entire nation, but he is being judge constantly on a global scale.  He hasn't realizes yet that he can't just keep pointing fingers and passing the blame.  He is a tremendous mistake to humanity.  The dems could put a mentally handicapped ape up for election and i would vote for that over Trump in a heartbeat

[Jed_]

I must admit I was a bit flummoxed at the references to Obamagate.  I first saw this in a couple ‘conservative’ cartoons suggesting Obama was in trouble.  I had a moment of ‘what the fuck are they going on about now?’ as I haven’t been following Fox lately.

I then realized it’s a made up thing Trump is using to distract from his ‘chaotic’ and incompetent response to the pandemic.  I get Trump is making a connection to this unmasking of that convicted criminal Flynn, but I don’t see where Trump can conceivably turn that into the conspiracy he wants.  Or that anyone but the already faithful will believe.

Despite the fact that the DOJ has said former Presidents cannot be called in for questioning by Congress and that Lindsey has already poured cold water on the idea, I think Obama should volunteer.  If Trump is dense enough to allow a precedent for former Presidents to be questioned under oath with about their conduct in office, then so be it.

[watcher1]

If Trump could somehow get rid of Dr Fauci and any other scientist who counters what Trump thinks, I think he would. Now he basically ignores what they say.

[_priapism]

I’d hate for anyone to think I’m beating up on poor Donald Trump here ?, but consider this:
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What is it that he obsesses about more than anything else? What is his “measure” of success and failure? Even when it’s not really applicable? A measurement he’ll flat out LIE about in the face of reality? How does he define winners and losers?
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? R-A-T-I-N-G-S! ? He had the biggest Inauguration turnout in history (false), the biggest parade in history (false), the crowds at his rallies are the biggest ever for each venue (false), his State of the Union speech was the highest rated ever (false), and on and on....
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Think about the conditions we’re experiencing at this moment in time. There’s a pandemic raging worldwide. On any given Saturday night under normal circumstances, in every country around the world, Saturday is the night folks are most likely to go out to dinner, dancing, concerts, parties, whatever.
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But not during the era of COVID-19. Not last night. Not even teenagers, who are especially prone to socialize.
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So last night during prime time, the “Graduate Together” television special was simulcast on ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox Broadcasting, Univisíon, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network, ESPN, The CW, Facebook, Freeform, California Music Channel, YouTube, Twitter, TikTok, and more than a dozen other media platforms.
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In prime time.

On a Saturday night.

At a time when Americans are craving leadership.

During a health crisis, when EVERYONE is at home!
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I haven’t looked up the Nielsen ratings for “Graduate Together,” nor do I plan to. In fact, considering the unprecedented manner in which it was broadcast over so many outlets, I don’t think even Nielsen could gauge an audience that large. But suffice it to say, it was massive.
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At the close of the hour, the face of trust, compassion and yes, love appeared. President Obama served up words of encouragement and support to the graduates of 2020. It was like an oasis of understanding and competence in a desert of idiocy. And notably, it was also the first time Barack Obama took direct jabs—without naming names, mind you—at the Emir who reigns over that desert of despair. His words were the cool, soothing drink hundreds of millions have been yearning for for 3-1/2 long, corrupt, now-deadly years.
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For Barack Obama, the alignment of more than 30 media platforms willing to broadcast (some perhaps eagerly, others reluctantly) an uninterrupted, commercial-free hour at a time when the entire nation is in lock-down, was a gift like none other. No human being in the history of broadcasting has ever been handed such a golden opportunity. And in my opinion, he used it brilliantly. That alignment was a perfect storm.
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But for Donald Trump, obsessed with numbers, ratings and the man whose face was on every television, laptop and mobile device from sea to shining sea, it was a perfect nightmare. One he won’t soon forget.
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Barack Obama... on Fox News, yet... criticizing ME... MY competence... with possibly the biggest viewing audience of all time. And not even my friends at Fox came to my defense.
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Oh sting, where is thy death?

[Jed_]

Here’s my take on Trump being on hydroxychloroquine:

~95% chance he’s flat out lying about taking it,
~5% chance his doctor gave him a placebo (sort of like when the doc mixed cauliflower in his mashed potatoes),
~1% chance he’s telling the truth and the doc is right up there with those that over prescribed OxyContin and addicted so many.

[_priapism]

Vindictive, petty Trump breaks 40 year tradition, refusing to unveil Obama portrait in the White House.

[joan1984]

Such an unveiling may occur at any time, and has by precedent. Some never happened in the past, such as that of President Carter, with no record why. The Portrait did find its way to the White House and is/was displayed there.

President Obama is given his due, by President Trump, and will get more of the President's and everyone's attention, hopefully publicly, as History unfurls.

[Jed_]

Portrait hanging up or not, Barack Obama lives rent free in Trump’s head.

[joan1984]

 As we all know, 2019, such as it was, is now the minimum Target for making American Great Again, 2020+ the Future.

The Starting point is Now, and efforts are underway since early May, some prior, to rescue our lives and return us to prosperity, albeit with the increased "investment" made on our behalf by our elected officials and the others - you know who they are - who are among us to remove our prosperity at every opportunity.

  President Trump has been effective in recent times, driving opportunity in the proper direction, showing investors that the future is worth their efforts, and can be counted upon to continue to drive us toward excellence, and prosperity.

  Recovery hopefully can be swift, having a stronger stance than in 2016 when he began his focused attention on fixing the existing issues of the time, getting government red tape out of the way of the necessary growth of our Economy by private business, still a work in progress, and in far better shape now than then.

  Our President can expect the now 'normal' foot dragging of Congress, and of course the continued direct attacks by Democrats and other Leftists, including RINO members of his own Party, to be a drag on progress, and he has shown some ability to thwart such efforts and drag the Nation as is needed for victory.

  We wish him God Speed!

[MissBarbara]

 
As we all know...

We wish him God Speed!

Who is this "we" you are referring to?

[_priapism]

 
As we all know...

We wish him God Speed!

Who is this "we" you are referring to?

John and his little toadie.  They are the only two Koolaid drinkers here, who continue to clutter the board with their alt-right spam.  

[joan1984]

 Ms Barbara, I was speaking as an American Citizen.

Do you not want our President to lead a recovery that is successful?

Do you hope the current crisis continues, knowing the risk is no where near the projections, the Ferguson curve or projection of US Deaths, which was used to justify an economic total shutdown?

Less that 2% is a generous projection, used until actual figures may be determined, which States seem to be working against by 'adjusting' to SEEM as a standard when it comes to what killed the Diabetic, Chronic Heart Failure, weak Kidney function person who was living in a Nursing Home, and caught the Virus... but in any event, say 2% deaths, 80% of whom were over 60 yo... and had other morbidity issues to boot.

Less than 3% were school age persons. Average age of Teachers is 41 yo. All schools closed, incapable students sit in front of Google Teach, as at least one parent (if they have more than one actual caregiver in the home) cannot do productive work, for the need to supervise their kids...

Tell me there is not a way to work this out.

How about warehouse the kids with younger people getting Teacher pay, add a few Security people, and let the kids watch Google Teach there in that supervised location, so the parent can go earn whatever someone will pay them based upon their supposed skills.

That could be done with some phone calls and a week's notice or less, by edict if necessary, with National Guard doing the "teach and security" if Teacher Union Employees would rather just stay home and collect full or better than full salary...

Wash your hands...

What is your plan?

 
As we all know...

We wish him God Speed!

Who is this "we" you are referring to?

[MissBarbara]

What is your plan?

I am not the U.S. president. Well at least not yet.

As a citizen, I look to the president for leadership, especially at a moment like this. Thus far, I have not seen that.

Do you not want our President to lead a recovery that is successful?

I absolutely do!

But here's the thing, Joan: You provided a long list of what the president could/might do. 
I'm looking at what the president has done -- and not done. I base my evaluation of the president on that, and not some future what if what is not in keeping with what he has done thus far.

Do you hope the current crisis continues, knowing the risk is no where near the projections?

On the one hand, it's completely idiotic to even suggest I might believe that. Then again, "competely idiiotic" describes a lot of what we've been hearing from the Right these days.

On the other hand, as of today, the official Covid-19 death count stands at 92,000. I won't pretend to understand the science, but let's say that that the actual number of deaths directly caused by Covid-19 that are not attributable to other diseases or preexisting health conditions is "only" 40,000.

Are you okay with that? Do you believe those deaths are acceptable losses that can be just waved away? And do you think that's really a "proper direction" for the president to "lead" the country?

That could be done with some phone calls and a week's notice or less, by edict if necessary, with National Guard doing the "teach and security" if Teacher Union Employees would rather just stay home and collect full or better than full salary...

While I know that the teachers' unions are the greatest bugbear of the Right, this is an area where I can speak from authority and personal experience. Since remote learning began about two months ago, American schoolteachers, unionized and non-unionized alike, are working much longer and harder than they were in, say, February. They're earning every penny of their salaries, and going above and beyond in countless ways. Again, I'm not basing this on what I read on partisan blogs and web sites, but from actual teachers, who have dedicated themselves to more week and longer hours to ensure as smooth a continuation as possible of their students' educations.

As for the union leadership itself, it's abundantly clear that they place student and teacher safety ahead of pure financial concerns. They're more interested in health and safety -- you know, keeping people from dying -- than money.

What is your plan?

My plan is to listen to health experts, and to follow their advice -- and not the blathering of politicians, and certainly not the nattering nabobs on the net.

[joan1984]

  Nice. Create a strawman of what I did not say, and attack it. No effort to deal with the reality that cannot stand the way it is, and have America survive.

  I understand there are interested people who benefit, or believe they may benefit, from the present chaos, and see no reason to interrupt, at least thru
November 2020... Then, depending upon the results that day, will begin to see about further steps.

  Oh well.

  Even at KB, the majority do not indicate a vote for Joe Biden in Lois' Poll.
Actual vote counts matter little to Democrats, I understand, and it can all be sorted in the Mail or something, but I hope some here note that their hopes are not the majority hopes... Close, but no Cigar...

  We shall see when the lawsuits get to higher courts, not likely until midway through the second Trump term, or even later, as Eric readies his Campaign...

  Wash your hands...

  Just Do It! Gretchen says.