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Reply #3680 on: January 17, 2018, 03:48:01 PM
The doctor has proclaimed that Trump is incredibly healthy given his age and diet.  He also passed the cognitive tests.

Of course cognitive tests should not be relied upon too much.  You can have serious mental issues and still pass one. Such tests include:

Who is the President of the US?
What day of the week is it?
Demonstrate that you can count backwards from 100. (You only have to reach 93 or so).

I don't believe one word of what comes out of those medical reports. Every president of my lifetime has gotten a 100% perfect health report every time they have gotten a checkup, and later we find out that they had undisclosed health issues which were kept from the public.

They simply lie, and they have done so for...forever.



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Reply #3681 on: January 17, 2018, 05:24:20 PM
Good point.



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Reply #3682 on: January 17, 2018, 06:22:50 PM
I’m quite sure no cognitive tests were given to Reagan, or if any were it was held in secrecy.



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Reply #3683 on: January 17, 2018, 08:31:42 PM
If anything is wrong it would not be announced publicly. It is a matter of national security.



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Reply #3684 on: January 18, 2018, 12:57:01 AM
The doctor has proclaimed that Trump is incredibly healthy given his age and diet.  He also passed the cognitive tests.

Of course cognitive tests should not be relied upon too much.  You can have serious mental issues and still pass one. Such tests include:

Who is the President of the US?
What day of the week is it?
Demonstrate that you can count backwards from 100. (You only have to reach 93 or so).

I don't believe one word of what comes out of those medical reports. Every president of my lifetime has gotten a 100% perfect health report every time they have gotten a checkup, and later we find out that they had undisclosed health issues which were kept from the public.

They simply lie, and they have done so for...forever.

Yep!  Plus he is now reported by the doctor to be 6-3, while his license says 6-2. No one can believe anything coming out of this administration.

Trump’s Physical Revealed Serious Heart Concerns, Outside Experts Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/17/us/politics/trump-physical-heart-health-cholesterol.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

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Dr. David Maron, the director of preventive cardiology at Stanford University’s medical school, said Wednesday that it was alarming that the president’s LDL levels remain above 140 even though he is taking 10 milligrams of Crestor, a powerful drug that is used to lower cholesterol levels to well below 100.

Dr. Maron said he would “definitely” be worried about Mr. Trump’s risk for having a heart attack if the president were one of his patients. Asked if Mr. Trump is in perfect health, Dr. Maron offered a blunt reply: “God, no.”

Other cardiologists also disputed Dr. Jackson’s rosy assessment of the president’s heart health. Several said Mr. Trump’s goal should be to get his LDL below 100, or even under 70. He has a real risk of having a heart attack or stroke, especially considering his weight and lack of exercise, they said.

He added: “I would never use the words ‘excellent health.’ How you could take these indices and say excellent health? That is completely contradicted.”



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Reply #3685 on: January 18, 2018, 02:57:04 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/01/17/cnn-s-sanjay-gupta-roasted-for-stating-trump-has-heart-disease-after-white-house-doctor-gives-clean-bill-health.html

I watched the exchange between Sanjay Gupta and White House Physician Dr Ron Jackson.  During questioning Dr. Jackson got increasingly uncomfortable answering Dr. Gupta’s questions.  You could see Jackson knowing Trump’s eyes were on him while he spoke.  This is not normal.

I’m posting the Fox response only, as I saw the CNN aired interview on TV and have no link.



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Reply #3687 on: January 18, 2018, 05:04:39 AM
Another sign of malignant narcissistic personality disorder.




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Reply #3689 on: January 18, 2018, 04:00:39 PM
Another sign of malignant narcissistic personality disorder.


I think you mean ordering the White House physician to lie about his height and weight, and yes, absolutely.

Since I believe they are lying about Trump’s height and weight, it must mean I am now a full fledged member of the conspiracy theorists now known as Girthers.



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Reply #3691 on: January 19, 2018, 01:19:12 AM
Girther movement LOL!


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/girther-movement-questions-donald-trump-height-weight-article-1.3762215



Hysterical! Stolen to repost elsewhere..! Thanks.

These dastardly Girthers fat shaming our president, have they no decency!!!!

At what point do these idiots not realize this is tongue in cheek.  That and Trump lying about yet another thing to make himself look better than reality is news folks.


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/18/donald-trump-conspiracy-theories-democrats-216476

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/01/18/hypocritical-media-fat-shaming-president-trump-because-hes-man-commentators-say.html



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Reply #3692 on: January 19, 2018, 03:28:12 AM

#BlackLivesMatter
Arrest The Cops Who Killed Breonna Taylor

#BanTheNaziFromKB


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Reply #3693 on: January 19, 2018, 03:30:07 AM
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#BlackLivesMatter
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Reply #3694 on: January 19, 2018, 03:32:07 AM

#BlackLivesMatter
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Reply #3695 on: January 19, 2018, 03:45:02 AM

#BlackLivesMatter
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Reply #3696 on: January 19, 2018, 08:28:11 AM
This is inline with most original Trumpisms.


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Reply #3697 on: January 19, 2018, 02:50:00 PM
  2018 March For Life happens today in Washington, DC. 

Over 100,000 Catholics, others, expected for the March and Expo. Constitution Avenue will close for the March and event.

The Annual event will be addressed by President Donald J. Trump, on video from the Rose Garden. (Another first for a sitting U.S. President, by this Administration.)


http://marchforlife.org/march-life-2018/rally-march-info/

http://marchforlife.org/march-life-2018/expo/

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Reply #3698 on: January 19, 2018, 07:01:23 PM
Girther movement LOL!


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/girther-movement-questions-donald-trump-height-weight-article-1.3762215



Hysterical! Stolen to repost elsewhere..! Thanks.

These dastardly Girthers fat shaming our president, have they no decency!!!!

At what point do these idiots not realize this is tongue in cheek.  That and Trump lying about yet another thing to make himself look better than reality is news folks.


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/18/donald-trump-conspiracy-theories-democrats-216476

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/01/18/hypocritical-media-fat-shaming-president-trump-because-hes-man-commentators-say.html






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Reply #3699 on: January 19, 2018, 07:39:11 PM
I do believe the Trump administration's alignment is chaotic evil.  I hope the Democratic Party draws a red line in the sand over DACA.  People brought here as children had no choice in the matter, and for many the US is the only country they have ever known.  It would be cruel to deport them.

Lindsey Graham Thought He Had Trump Tamed—but Got Played Instead
Graham and Dick Durbin thought that they had a DACA deal with Trump—classic case of smart men, foolish choices.
By Heather Digby Parton / Salon January 18, 2018

Poor Lindsey Graham. The "maverick" senator from South Carolina had spent the last two years expressing his scorn for Donald Trump,  calling him "unfit" and "a kook." Then, sometime in the late summer, Graham apparently reconciled himself to the fact that Trump wasn't capable of growing or "pivoting" into the job, so he took it upon himself to cultivate the mercurial manchild, perhaps in the vainglorious belief he could influence Trump to become a mainstream conservative and stamp out the rapidly burning fuse that was going to blow up the presidency and likely the entire Republican Party.

Graham played golf with his president, he complimented him on his swing, he flattered his intelligence and he even agreed to throw some red meat at the base on Trump's behalf by taking up the ridiculous crusade to jail Hillary Clinton. He cajoled and he petted and he whispered the sweet nothings that the president needs to hear to make him feel powerful. Graham thought Trump trusted him and looked to him for guidance. He thought he could speak for the president in negotiations.

He was wrong -- and it was proven in classic Trump fashion last week. Like so many of Trump's close confidantes before him, Graham was stabbed in the back by the man he thought he was guiding. He was outmaneuvered by other "guides" who understand the dark impulses that drive their leader much better than Graham ever will.

Graham and Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., along with a few others, have been working for months on a bipartisan immigration deal that would save the young DACA recipients from being deported by Trump's ICE agents after his abrupt cancellation of their program. In a televised meeting last Tuesday, this group all believed they had received guidelines from the president. By Thursday, they came up with a tentative compromise deal. Graham and Durbin called Trump at 10 a.m. He sounded enthusiastic and told the two senators to come up to the White House at noon to talk about it.

When the bipartisan duo got there, the room had been stacked with hardline anti-immigration right-wingers, led by Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and Sen. David Perdue of Georgia, whom staffers had hurriedly called to get to the meeting and help run interference.

According to The Washington Post, Chief of Staff John Kelly (a well-known anti-immigrant zealot from way back) got in the president's ear and worked him up so much that when Graham and Durbin showed up to find they'd been sandbagged, he was already fuming. That's when he went off about not wanting any more immigrants from "shithole" countries. Graham and Durbin tried to fight for their deal, but they had been outplayed.

It turns out that Graham's not the only one who is trying to manipulate this president. The old-guard Breitbart "base whisperers" Steve Bannon and Sebastian Gorka have been supplanted by Kelly and professional hard-right extremists like Cotton, Perdue, Stephen Miller and Jeff Sessions, with backup from Trump's "candyman," House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy. They were more than willing to appeal shamelessly to Trump's racist id to get what they wanted. They knew it was what he really wanted too.

This bunch evidently told Trump "the base" would be thrilled if he rejected "shithole" immigrants, and he was so proud of himself for doing it, at least at first, that he called up his friends to see how they thought it was playing. It was only later that he realized he'd caused an international incident and destroyed the best hope of a bipartisan deal.

What happens now is anybody's guess. The deadline to fix this DACA problem is fast approaching and the government will shut down at the end of the week if the Congress fails to act on a budget. At the moment it's a standoff, with Republicans (and some members of the press) absurdly insisting that the Democrats will be responsible for a shutdown if they hold out for the DACA fix, even though the Republicans control both houses of Congress and the White House and can pass any bill they actually agree on. If the government turns off the lights this week, the GOP leadership needs to talk to the Republicans who refuse to vote for their own bill.

The other important question for the country is how we can preserve our democracy when one of the major parties has decided that it would rather accommodate and manipulate an unfit, unqualified and unstable president in pursuit of its white nationalist agenda than do its constitutional duty.

That's what's known as selling your soul. It would be one thing if "shithole" was the only offensive racist comment Trump has ever made. But it isn't even close.

Trump is also wholly corrupt, making millions of dollars servicing his "brand" as president. He refuses to release any information about his finances and is under intense scrutiny by the press and possibly law enforcement for past dealings that look an awful lot like money laundering for foreign criminals.

He's got absolutely no knowledge of policy, or ability to learn about it, and his nepotistic, amateurish White House is in a constant state of chaos. Trump acts belligerent toward America's allies and weirdly friendly toward many of its adversaries. He uses his Twitter feed to spew juvenile insults and, in some cases, alarming threats of nuclear war.

Trump has been credibly accused of sexual assault by nearly 20 women and was revealed just this week to have paid porn stars to keep silent about his sexual escapades with them, possibly lending credence to charges that he was a potential target of blackmail.

He is the subject of the first counterespionage investigation ever launched against a president over suspicions that he conspired with the Russian government to win the presidential election. There is ample evidence that he has obstructed justice trying to stop the probe.

If Republican officials have decided to overlook all that, it's hard to imagine what it would take to get them to do their duty.

Tuesday's Senate testimony by Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen had poor Lindsey Graham lamenting:

[Last] Tuesday we had a president who I was proud to golf with, call my friend, who understood immigration had to be bipartisan ... but he also understood the idea that we had to do it with compassion. I don't know where that guy went. I want him back.

That guy never existed. The president of the United States is a man named Donald Trump. He is a racist and a xenophobe, and the vast majority of the Republican Congress doesn't have a problem with that. In fact, they've eagerly signed on to the Trump crusade. Who's manipulating whom?

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/lindset-graham-got-played-trump-daca