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Reply #3040 on: September 28, 2017, 11:01:50 PM
WTF are you #resisting about Athos? You seem obsessed, but I guess we all knew that, but really, wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.

 Put your town service uniform on, drive half an hour, and wander around in Chicago... then you will have something to #resist. Thank you, you needed that.

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Reply #3041 on: September 28, 2017, 11:23:39 PM
Joan, did one of your neighbors cook up a new batch of meth or something? You're just on fire today.

Should we be worried? Want us to call anyone?



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Reply #3042 on: September 28, 2017, 11:27:25 PM
WTF are you #resisting about Athos? You seem obsessed, but I guess we all knew that, but really, wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.

 Put your town service uniform on, drive half an hour, and wander around in Chicago... then you will have something to #resist. Thank you, you needed that.


Oh my little racist, you are wrong on so many levels.

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Reply #3043 on: September 28, 2017, 11:32:45 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


Most Americans still want Trump to stop tweeting — and think he’s unfit for office

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Reply #3044 on: September 28, 2017, 11:34:21 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


Trump Grotesquely Blames Puerto Rico's Humanitarian Crisis on 'Broken Infrastructure' and 'Massive Debt'

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Reply #3045 on: September 28, 2017, 11:36:58 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


Trump's Puerto Rico tweets prove that Wall Street is deep in his head

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Reply #3046 on: September 28, 2017, 11:37:50 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


Trump Responds to Puerto Rico Crisis by Highlighting Its Debts

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Reply #3047 on: September 28, 2017, 11:38:18 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


Trump's lack of empathy about Puerto Rico is staggering

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Reply #3048 on: September 28, 2017, 11:39:19 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


Trump's tweets focus on Puerto Rico's debt during island's recovery


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Reply #3049 on: September 28, 2017, 11:40:05 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


Seth Meyers rips Trump's Puerto Rico response


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Reply #3050 on: September 28, 2017, 11:41:27 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


There Should Be 'Great Anger' Over Trump's Puerto Rico Response

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Reply #3051 on: September 28, 2017, 11:42:56 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


Trump's NFL and Puerto Rico tweets prove his goal is to divide, not unite the country

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Reply #3052 on: September 28, 2017, 11:43:48 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


San Juan mayor on Trump tweets: 'You don't put debt above people'

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Reply #3053 on: September 28, 2017, 11:45:21 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


TRUMP REMINDS DISASTER-STRICKEN PUERTO RICO IT HOLDS “MASSIVE DEBT”

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Reply #3054 on: September 28, 2017, 11:45:49 PM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


It’s not complicated: Trump is more interested in NFL protests than the storm in Puerto Rico

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Reply #3055 on: September 28, 2017, 11:58:28 PM
Trump Misleads on Who Benefits From Tax Plan

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President Trump and Republican leaders released their long-awaited tax plan on Wednesday, offering several misleading and false claims to bolster their framework for the overhaul. Here’s an assessment.

Mr. Trump falsely claimed “I don’t benefit” from the Republican plan.

The lack of details in the plan make it difficult to estimate how the cuts would be distributed across income levels, but Mr. Trump and the wealthy would “almost certainly benefit,” said Roberton Williams, an analyst at the Tax Policy Center.

The Republican framework would eliminate the “death tax,” which applies to estates valued over $5.49 million in 2017. Mr. Trump has an estimated net worth of $3.5 billion. He might not personally see a tax break from the repeal, Mr. Williams said, because “he’ll be dead. But his heirs will.”

The new plan also would repeal the alternative minimum tax, a parallel system of taxation that currently ensures that those who take deductions and try to exploit loopholes pay a minimum amount; it largely impacts people making between $200,000 and $1 million. Without this tax, Mr. Trump would have paid $31 million less in taxes in 2005, according to his tax return that year, which was disclosed on the “Rachel Maddow Show” in March.

Reducing the top marginal income tax rate to 35 percent from 39.6 percent would also benefit the wealthy, though the plan does not specify which income levels it would affect. Mr. Trump accurately said that the plan gives Congress leeway to raise the top rate.

Scott Greenberg, of the conservative Tax Foundation, cautioned against jumping to conclusions about who would benefit more, given the scant level of specificity released. But he said “clearly some elements” of the plan would reduce the tax liability of high-income households.

He misleadingly said that ending the “crushing” estate tax would overwhelmingly help farmers and small business owners.

The primary benefactors of an estate tax repeal would not be small businesses or farms, as Mr. Trump claimed; most farmers would not be impacted by it.

Analysts at the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center found that after deductions and exemptions, about 5,460 estates would owe a tax, paying a combined estimated $20 billion. About 80 estates facing the tax in 2017 are small businesses and farms. Their total tax liability is $30 million, “fifteen hundredths of 1 percent of the total estate tax revenue,” according to the Tax Policy Center.

Of 2.1 million family farms in the United States, the Department of Agriculture estimated that 38,328 estates would be created in 2016 — 0.4 percent of which owed estate taxes. The estate tax mostly impacts high-income individuals, with the top 10 percent of income earners paying nearly 90 percent of the tax, according to the Tax Policy Center.

Almost doubling the standard deduction might not amount to a tax cut for everyone.

Under his plan, Mr. Trump said, less income would be subject to taxation. He proposes to raise the standard deduction to $12,000 from $6,350 for single filers, and to $24,000 from $12,700 for married couples filing jointly. But it also eliminates personal exemptions, valued at $4,050 per person.

While the plan would double the standard deduction, people shouldn’t assume that “their income, subject to taxation income, would double” — though most taxpayers would see an increase, Mr. Greenberg said.

Under the current tax code, a single filer deducts a total of $10,400, which would increase by about 15 percent under the Republican plan.

An “archetypical American family” — which Mr. Williams described as a married couple with two children — might actually see its overall deductible income decrease. That family can deduct $28,900 under the current tax code, but just $24,000 under the Republican plan.

Taxpayers filing as the head of household are not mentioned in the plan, but if their deduction does not double or if the status is eliminated altogether, as Mr. Trump previously proposed, they, too, would see their deductions decrease. A single parent with one child, for example, can take $18,350 under the current tax code, but just $12,000 as a single filer under Mr. Trump’s plan.

The Republican plan also does propose increasing the child tax credit, so it’s possible — though currently unclear — whether the additional amount would offset these losses.

[size=12ptThe claim that workers bear the brunt of corporate taxes is disputed.[/size]

Mr. Trump claimed that slashing the corporate tax code would benefit workers. Senator Rob Portman, Republican of Ohio, said at a news conference on Wednesday that 70 percent of the benefit of lowering corporate taxes goes to workers.

Most economists agree that workers pay some portion of corporate taxes, but disagree on how much. Some analyses use economic modeling, while others focus on evidence from different countries — and make different assumptions about the mobility of capital and workers.

Mr. Portman referred to a 2006 working paper from an economist at the Congressional Budget Office as the source of his 70 percent figure.

But the C.B.O.’s most recent official estimate is that 75 percent of corporate taxes fall upon “the owners of capital,” and 25 percent on labor income. The Treasury Department in 2015 attributed an even smaller proportion — 19 percent — to workers. Nongovernment estimates can range from the independent Tax Policy Center’s 20 percent to the conservative Heritage Foundation’s 100 percent.

Comparing tax rates for small businesses around the world can be misleading.

Mr. Trump also promoted the plan as lowering the rate for pass-through businesses to 25 percent. Paul Ryan, the House speaker, justified the decrease at an August town hall by comparing America’s 44.6 percent tax for “successful small businesses” to Canada’s 15 percent, Ireland’s 12.5 percent, China’s 25 percent and the industrialized world’s average of 22.5 percent.

Most small businesses are “pass-throughs,” so they are not subject to the corporate tax rate, but rather the individual income rate.

But the vast majority of small businesses do not meet the income threshold for a rate that high. In 2014, just 3 percent of small business owners faced even the second highest top marginal rate, which applied to filers making over $405,100, according to analysts at the Treasury Department.

Like large corporations, the effective tax rates for small businesses are also lower than the statutory rates: 13.6 percent for sole proprietorships, 15.9 percent for partnerships and 25 percent for S-corporations.

The top corporate rates of other countries is an inappropriate comparison. The relevant pass-through tax rate for any other country is always its individual income tax rate for business income, said Wei Cui, an expert in international tax law at the University of British Columbia.

In Canada, sole proprietorship and partnerships that are not publicly traded are treated as pass-throughs. They face individual federal and provincial taxes that range to 54 percent from 44.5 percent, which is on par with the combined federal and state rates in the United States.

The top rates in Canada also kick in at lower income levels than in the United States. A small-business owner would face the highest possible combined Canadian rate of 54 percent in Nova Scotia, with an income over $165,500. The highest possible American rate of 51.9 percent, in California, would apply to incomes over $418,400.

Similarly, limited partners in Ireland are subject to a top income tax rate of 48 percent. China’s top marginal tax rate for pass-through income is 35 percent and kicks in at about $15,000.

“U.S. personal income tax rates are at the bottom end of O.E.C.D. countries,” Mr. Cui said, referring to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. “This is a very well-known fact among people who are acquainted with tax policy.”

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Reply #3056 on: September 29, 2017, 12:00:47 AM


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Reply #3057 on: September 29, 2017, 12:25:16 AM
wtf do you care about Trump's tweets, and the three you posted have little to offend any objective person, or little that is not true.


Rihanna Has Been Shaming Trump Over and Over Again for His Terrible Puerto Rico Response

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Reply #3058 on: September 29, 2017, 12:59:27 AM
3 Cabinet officials under fire for taking costly flights

The drain apparently is clogged.

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Reply #3059 on: September 29, 2017, 01:14:34 AM
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