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Reply #2880 on: September 03, 2017, 03:12:45 AM
Trump doesn't donate.  He just pledges donations.


Trump boasts about his philanthropy. But his giving falls short of his words.


David Fahrenthold won a Pulitzer Prize for reporting on this.

It's more than likely Trump won't donate again.

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Reply #2881 on: September 03, 2017, 03:50:19 AM
Trump doesn't donate.  He just pledges donations.


Trump boasts about his philanthropy. But his giving falls short of his words.


David Fahrenthold won a Pulitzer Prize for reporting on this.

It's more than likely Trump won't donate again.

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Exactly.



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Reply #2882 on: September 03, 2017, 08:45:20 AM
I would call Trump pond scum, but that's an insult to pond scum.



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Reply #2883 on: September 03, 2017, 10:41:30 PM
Donald Trump's EPA Is Now Attacking Journalists

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Since the EPA did not actually contest any of the facts in the AP article, this looks an awful lot like petty retaliation against journalists for having the temerity to report on things like the EPA’s response to an environmental catastrophe—or any number of other things, like Pruitt’s extremely sketchy ties to the climate change denial movement, war on environmental science or plans to eliminate huge numbers of EPA staff.

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Reply #2884 on: September 04, 2017, 04:03:01 PM
We are definitely living in a zombie apocalypse.  Idiots advocating a nuclear response to North Korea, "Because Trump's not a pussy like your Obama."  Forgive me.  I put up with "your Bush" (big and untrimmed as I recall) for eight years, but never once wished to destroy the world for a talking point. SMH.



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Reply #2885 on: September 04, 2017, 09:22:32 PM
Hey Trump.  Very fine people do not march with NAZIs.  But many fine people happen to have come to the US as children. 

This Dreamer Died Saving Harvey Flood Victims. His Body Was Found The Day Reports Surfaced Trump Will Kill DACA
Border officials have refused to let his mother into the country for his funeral.
By Alexander C. Kaufman

Alonso Guillen came to the U.S. from Mexico as a child. He died here, too: On Wednesday, he disappeared when his boat capsized while he was rescuing survivors of the flooding caused by Hurricane Harvey in the Houston area.

Family members recovered his body on Sunday from a creek in Spring, Texas, according to The Houston Chronicle ― just hours before reports emerged that President Donald Trump will end the program that shielded Guillen and others like him ― so-called Dreamers ― from deportation.

Guillen, a 31-year-old disc jockey who came to Texas from Mexico as a teenager, never became a U.S. citizen. But he had a work permit and protection from immediate deportation as part of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program ― DACA ― that then-President Barack Obama established in 2012.

Last week, he headed south from his home in Lufkin, Texas, with a borrowed boat, insisting he wanted to help rescue flood survivors. His father, a legal permanent resident, wept on the sandy banks of Cypress Creek on Sunday as his son’s body was pulled from the water, the Chronicle reported. Jesus Guillen recounted to the paper how he asked his son not to go on the rescue mission with two friends, and that he thanked God for the time he had with his son.

His mother, Rita Ruiz de Guillen, was contacted by Chronicle at her home in Piedras Negras, Mexico. “I’m asking God to give me strength,” she said.

She also told the paper that U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials denied her entry at the border, despite her pleas for a temporary visa to come to Texas for her son’s burial.

The agency did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Monday.

The boat that Alonso Guillen and his two friends were in capsized when it hit a bridge around midnight Wednesday, according to the Chronicle. One of them was rescued after clinging to a tree but the other, Tomas Carreon Jr., also was lost to the flood waters. His body was discovered Friday.

The backstory to Alonso Guillen’s arrival in the U.S. is unclear. But the timing of his death spotlights the contributions he and other Dreamers have made to the U.S.

Trump reportedly will announce on Tuesday his decision to end the DACA program. His termination order won’t be enforced for six months, according to the reports, which gives the White House or Congress time to craft an alternative to deporting the nearly 800,000 Dreamers. But that also creates little but uncertainty for those who, like Guillen,  crafted lives form themselves in the U.S.

Many leading Republicans ― including those committed to cracking down on illegal immigration ― have been urging Trump not to end DACA. In a radio interview in Janesville, Wisconsin, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said “there needs to be a legislative solution” addressing the status of Dreamers. He said he counseled Trump not to end DACA in part because “these are kids that know no other country.”

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) told The Washington Examiner Sunday evening he would support legalization for Dreamers if Congress also took action to toughen other parts of immigration policy. “We ought to take care” of the Dreamers, he said, adding that they weren’t to blame for coming to the country illegally.

But Trump has used the immigration issue to build a political base since he began his presidential campaign with a 2015 speech in which he called some Mexican immigrants “rapists” and called for a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border. As president, he has beefed up the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which boasted a 41 percent increase in arrests during Trump’s first 100 days in office. Arrests of non-criminal offenders doubled.

The White House plan to eliminate DACA puts Republicans in the House and Senate in a bind, forcing them to either act to stop the president or renege on public statements promising a compassionate approach to Dreamers.

Guillen’s family, meanwhile, is left to mourn him. “When we are with God, there are no borders,” his mother told the Chronicle. “Man made borders on this earth.”

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Reply #2886 on: September 04, 2017, 10:54:58 PM
We are definitely living in a zombie apocalypse.  Idiots advocating a nuclear response to North Korea, "Because Trump's not a pussy like your Obama."  Forgive me.  I put up with "your Bush" (big and untrimmed as I recall) for eight years, but never once wished to destroy the world for a talking point. SMH.

Not surprisingly one poster on this board suggested the death of 25 million North Koreans is acceptable.

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Reply #2887 on: September 04, 2017, 11:36:01 PM
  No mention of the fate of the 'borrowed' boat. I hope some kind soul found it and recovered it, shipping it back to it's rightful owner.

Some people are like the 'slinky'. Not really good for much,
but they bring a smile to your face as they fall down stairs.


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Reply #2888 on: September 05, 2017, 01:37:43 AM
And it just had to be stolen, eh Joan?  Because you can't conceive that someone with brown skin could borrow or own anything of their own?



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Reply #2889 on: September 05, 2017, 05:02:38 PM
And it just had to be stolen, eh Joan?  Because you can't conceive that someone with brown skin could borrow or own anything of their own?

I read the story, and per the Link, our dear departed "borrowed" a boat so he could go to help. Somehow, the boat hit a bridge at night, overturned, and he along with one other person from the boat were killed. One person in the boat survived.

And, the story does not detail what happened to the borrowed boat. Goes on to speak of his father, etc., but not any further mention of the boat, and where it is today. Hopefully the survivor secured the borrowed boat, and arrangement has been made for it's safe return.

Never saw any mention of brown skin in the story. Did you, Lois? Certainly hope those who were saved by these volunteers will contribute toward his, their costs, and for recovery of the borrowed boat.

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Reply #2890 on: September 05, 2017, 05:41:29 PM
People dying all around, but there are several sentences expressing concern that the fucking boat made it back to its owner?

Jesus, Joan; you are an embarrassment to the species. Your values are so warped that you lack even basic human decency. But you are so oblivious of the fact that you speak about it openly and without apparent shame.

You lack of empathy is not strength, Joan. It's a sign that something within you is broken.






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Reply #2891 on: September 05, 2017, 06:30:22 PM
@ Joan:

Placing the word "borrowed" in quotes is a way of implying the boat was stolen. That one person was originally from Mexico was the basis of the brown skin reference. You don't have to say things explicitly for it to be understand what you meant.

And Northwest is right, your concern for property over human life indicates a mental defect. Or in the alternative, smoke a joint.



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Reply #2892 on: September 05, 2017, 06:56:03 PM
And it just had to be stolen, eh Joan?  Because you can't conceive that someone with brown skin could borrow or own anything of their own?



Never saw any mention of brown skin in the story. Did you, Lois? Certainly hope those who were saved by these volunteers will contribute toward his, their costs, and for recovery of the borrowed boat.


Then you must not have read this.
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Alonso Guillen came to the U.S. from Mexico as a child.

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Reply #2893 on: September 05, 2017, 07:09:42 PM
Mexican is not a Race, just an 'ethnicity', and Mexicans span a variety of skin melanin levels, Light to Medium to Darker. I had no intention to imply theft of the boat, or disparage the individual to 'borrowed' it, and the quotes mean no nefarious intent, unless the person reading has a bias, that they may infer.

Just seemed a loose end, that if they mention the borrowed boat in the story, some disposition of that asset, return to it's owner, lost at sea, whatever could be offered.  I feel strongly about the people of Texas, and the losses of life and property there, and your presuming my intention to be otherwise is insulting.

I was the one who began the thread, it so disturbed me. Not everything need be confrontational, even as virtually any story today has some political aspect to it, we can share our concern about humanity.


@ Joan:

Placing the word "borrowed" in quotes is a way of implying the boat was stolen. That one person was originally from Mexico was the basis of the brown skin reference. You don't have to say things explicitly for it to be understand what you meant.

And Northwest is right, your concern for property over human life indicates a mental defect. Or in the alternative, smoke a joint.

Some people are like the 'slinky'. Not really good for much,
but they bring a smile to your face as they fall down stairs.


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Reply #2894 on: September 05, 2017, 08:16:02 PM
People dying all around, but there are several sentences expressing concern that the fucking boat made it back to its owner?

Jesus, Joan; you are an embarrassment to the species. Your values are so warped that you lack even basic human decency. But you are so oblivious of the fact that you speak about it openly and without apparent shame.

You lack of empathy is not strength, Joan. It's a sign that something within you is broken.


The incessant bombardment of the senses that *is* the "Trump Experience," has definitely had a negative effect on courtesy, empathy, optimism, or even the willingness to give a fuck.

It used to be a rare and memorable event to encounter a person with shit for brains, but now, thanks to Fox News and the Internet, it's a rare day to *not* encounter such a person daily... often more than once.

So like scar tissue forming over an open wound, we all disengage to a certain extent.  Some more than others.

I personally have come to a point in my life where I just turn a blind eye and a cold heart to 90 percent of what I encounter online.  And I guess that is what the Brietbart's wanted... to turn the rest of the world into the cold, pathetic, heartless place where they reside.
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Reply #2895 on: September 05, 2017, 11:45:32 PM
It used to be a rare and memorable event to encounter a person with shit for brains, but now, thanks to Fox News and the Internet, it's a rare day to *not* encounter such a person daily... often more than once...

Yes. And anymore, people seem to wear their inhumanity and lack of understanding with pride, as if behaving with ignorance or insensitivity was worthy of some sort of special praise.



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Reply #2896 on: September 06, 2017, 12:49:21 AM
joan1984 is a racist.  The only problem is I've been the only one willing to call joan1984 out on it around here.

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Reply #2897 on: September 06, 2017, 01:45:44 AM
joan1984 is a racist.  The only problem is I've been the only one willing to call joan1984 out on it around here.

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I think that is an overstatement; however, you have certainly been more pointedly verbal about calling a spade a spade.

I think Trump's election has taken a lot of fun and creative expression out of the Internet, as you usually have this ominous feeling that someone is looking over your shoulder.  At least I do.  I went a "little crazy" after November 7, and took down tens of thousands of posts in various forums, including this one.  I'm still deciding if I was an idiot or not.  We came very close to going into a totalitarian state at one point, but I think the push back has finally gained traction on numerous fronts.  I guess we will see what the next twelve months bring.  I hope not nuclear war.
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Reply #2898 on: September 06, 2017, 01:58:10 AM
This goes back way long before Trump was on the radar.

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Reply #2899 on: September 06, 2017, 03:51:23 AM
Mexican is not a Race, just an 'ethnicity', and Mexicans span a variety of skin melanin levels, Light to Medium to Darker. I had no intention to imply theft of the boat, or disparage the individual to 'borrowed' it, and the quotes mean no nefarious intent, unless the person reading has a bias, that they may infer.

And a skunk by any other name smells just as foul.  We know what you meant and you are the one now bringing up race.  Don't play little miss innocent.

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Just seemed a loose end, that if they mention the borrowed boat in the story, some disposition of that asset, return to it's owner, lost at sea, whatever could be offered.  I feel strongly about the people of Texas, and the losses of life and property there, and your presuming my intention to be otherwise is insulting.

All here know you better Joan. 

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I was the one who began the thread, it so disturbed me. Not everything need be confrontational, even as virtually any story today has some political aspect to it, we can share our concern about humanity.

And did you not start this thread about Trump in 1408/Politics?

Trump is bigoted bully with delusions of grandeur.  He's also a self-admitted rapist who cares nothing for the concept of consent.  And need I mention he's an unhinged narcissist who is a threat to the entire world?

So just what do you have against DACA?