The Trump thread: All things Donald

[Northwest]

It's a subtle and slippery point the author tries to wrap his arms around, but in the end he does it. The danger with Trump is not that we will begin to believe his lies. It's in how his actions damage the entire idea that truth exists, and that careful, sincere and intelligent people can find their way to it.

"...But now I’ve let myself get distracted by fake-news shouting—which is the point of it. For the President and his adherents, appropriating and disseminating the “fake news” notion serves a dual purpose. It plays into the rampant what-aboutism that has made political arguments so much less fun in the past six months—"I'm lying? Well, they lie more!" But more importantly it muddies the very idea of truth. It leaves a little scratch on whatever lens all of us use to find the truth for ourselves. Those scratches build up; eventually the lens will be opaque. “The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth, and truth be defamed as lie,” Bok writes, “but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world—and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end—is being destroyed.”

To Trump and his followers, it doesn’t matter if we can’t believe the President as long as they ensure we can’t believe anyone else, either. Sure, the apotheosis of all this will make traditional governance—passing laws, making treaties, regulating in the public interest—impossible. But the people in charge will be able to do all kinds of other stuff while no one’s watching, or while no one can see. They can change regulations to make them more favorable to allies and donors. They can figure out how to suppress their opponents’ voters. They can embed moneymaking enterprises into governance. The tsunami of lies will recede, leaving behind only the swamp."

Excerpt from here:

https://www.wired.com/story/president-trumps-lies-and-untruths/

[Athos_131]

Justice Department's Corporate Crime Watchdog Resigns, Saying Trump Makes It Impossible To Do Job

“Trying to hold companies to standards that our current administration is not living up to was creating a cognitive dissonance that I could not overcome," Chen wrote. “To sit across the table from companies and question how committed they were to ethics and compliance felt not only hypocritical, but very much like shuffling the deck chair on the Titanic. Even as I engaged in those questioning and evaluations, on my mind were the numerous lawsuits pending against the President of the United States for everything from violations of the Constitution to conflict of interest, the ongoing investigations of potentially treasonous conducts, and the investigators and prosecutors fired for their pursuits of principles and facts. Those are conducts I would not tolerate seeing in a company, yet I worked under an administration that engaged in exactly those conduct. I wanted no more part in it.”

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[Athos_131]

Kushner told 'Morning Joe' hosts to apologize to Trump or tabloid story would run: report

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[joan1984]

When Joe Scarborough CALLED the White House, in an attempt to influence the story being prepared by The National Enquirer, he spoke with Jared Kushner, asked if the President could do anything for him about the story, and was told "you need to speak to him about that".

His presumption that an apology was in order was his own, Scarborough's own.
Also, Scarborough knew, knows, he has no favors due from Donald Trump, due to the attitude on his show displaying contempt for the President.

The story has not been challenged, is a accurate depiction of relationships that Joe and Mika and their extended families enjoy now, and enjoyed prior to their engagement announcement.

Kushner told 'Morning Joe' hosts to apologize to Trump or tabloid story would run: report

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[Northwest]

When Joe Scarborough CALLED the White House, in an attempt to influence the story being prepared by The National Enquirer, he spoke with Jared Kushner, asked if the President could do anything for him about the story, and was told "you need to speak to him about that".

His presumption that an apology was in order was his own, Scarborough's own.
Also, Scarborough knew, knows, he has no favors due from Donald Trump, due to the attitude on his show displaying contempt for the President.

The story has not been challenged, is a accurate depiction of relationships that Joe and Mika and their extended families enjoy now, and enjoyed prior to their engagement announcement.

Did all of this come to you in a dream, Joan? Without a source, it's just manure.

[joan1984]

Do your research if you seek the truth. It is not hidden, and if this is all 'new' to you, then consider your 'source' for News, and your daily diet of matching view.

[Katiebee]

Sources are required if you want people to take you seriously. Otherwise you are requiring them to trust you. Most posting without sources is inaccurate, biased, or simply wild supposition, I.e. Fake news.,

[Northwest]

Do your research if you seek the truth. It is not hidden, and if this is all 'new' to you, then consider your 'source' for News, and your daily diet of matching view.

Obviously, you made the story up.

You should be ashamed of yourself, Joan. You give knuckle draggers a bad name.

[Northwest]

Well, okay, but at least he's not black...

Donald Trump has spent more than 21 percent of his days as president at golf clubs

Trump said he’d “work my ass off” as president. He’s spent about 1 in 5 days at a golf club.



On the campaign trail, Donald Trump remarked that once in the White House, he’d never see his golf courses again — because “I want to stay in the White House and work my ass off.”

In reality, Trump has spent 35 days at a golf property since taking office, according to NBC News. That amounts to more than 21 percent of his 164 days as president so far.

The New York Times also previously found that as of April, Trump had spent much more time at the golf course than his predecessors. By April 28, Trump had spent 19 days at the golf course. In comparison, Barack Obama had spent one day at the same point in his presidency, George W. Bush had spent zero, and Bill Clinton had spent five.

It’s good for everyone, even the president, to take some time off every once in a while. You don’t want anyone at an important job to be exhausted or drained, and multiple studies suggest that vacations and breaks from work are good for productivity.

What makes Trump’s outings remarkable is that they’re just another example of how he’s lied and bullshitted to the American people. Consider this video from NBC News editor Bradd Jaffy, in which Trump repeatedly insisted that he would not take time off during his presidency — taking shots at Obama for golfing, in his view, so much:

    Today is Trump's 35th day at a golf club since taking office. He's been at a golf club on 21% of days as president.

    Watch candidate Trump: pic.twitter.com/ea72T1cBjn

    — Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) July 3, 2017

“There won’t be time to go on vacations,” Trump said on MSNBC. “There won’t be time to go golfing all the time.” At another point, he said, “You need leadership. You can’t fly to Hawaii to play golf.”

Trump has so far broken that promise to the American people.

Meanwhile, his legislative promises have fallen apart too. Trump spent much of the campaign contrasting himself with traditional Republicans by saying he’d take a much more compassionate view on health care, promising he would “take care of everybody,” and vowing not to cut Medicaid. Instead, the health care bill that Senate Republicans proposed and that Trump supports would, according to the Congressional Budget Office, cut 22 million people from the insurance rolls and slash Medicaid by $772 billion over 10 years.

This is the kind of stuff Trump could spend his time as president “working [his] ass off” to fix. Instead, it looks like he’s taking a lot of time off.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/3/15914664/trump-golf-president

[Elizabeth]

HEY......!!!!!!!
Let him play golf.....at least he can't fuck anything up but his golf game.......
Better yet....Keep him on the greens 365 days a year, that might save America from his goofy tweets and udder nonsense that he spouts as news.
I'm not to sure, but how much damage can he do to America while he plays golf..??

Love,
Liz

[Athos_131]

I'm not to sure, but how much damage can he do to America while he plays golf..??

Video of Trump driving on the golf green goes viral

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[Lois]

Sorry Joan.  Trump lies.  He always lies.  And he knows it doesn't matter, fools like you will believe him no matter what.

You are a tool, nothing more.  

I hope that someday you will wake up and stop being a sheep.

Trump boasted that he could get away with murder and it would not matter:
"I Could Stand In the Middle Of Fifth Avenue And Shoot Somebody And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters"

[Northwest]

HEY......!!!!!!!
Let him play golf.....at least he can't fuck anything up but his golf game.......
Better yet....Keep him on the greens 365 days a year, that might save America from his goofy tweets and udder nonsense that he spouts as news.
I'm not to sure, but how much damage can he do to America while he plays golf..??

Love,
Liz

That's a valid point, Liz.

[Athos_131]

‘Calling for a revolution!’: Trump fans ‘triggered’ after NPR tweets out the Declaration of Independence

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[Lois]

‘Calling for a revolution!’: Trump fans ‘triggered’ after NPR tweets out the Declaration of Independence

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The stupidity astounds.

[Katiebee]

You see, Joan, your comrades in submission to the alt-right aren't smart enough, nor educated in the history and values of our Nation to recognize the founding document. E.g. The Declaration of Independence.

The Trump supporters, the rabid, dyed in the wool right-wing, unthinking, fascists, whom you parrot can't recognize one of our country's most sacred documents. In fact they don't recognize the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

That's the real problem, not immigrants, not ISIS, not any of the oh so important enemies that you and your cohorts trumpet about.

You are the enemy. You are an enemy of the Constitution.

[Athos_131]

Spot on, Ms. Katiebee.

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[joan1984]

Public school education and all, perhaps they were sleeping during American History and Civics, or maybe they never had much effective American History and Civics, but instead watched videos, or slept thru movies in school, learning about how great Cuba's Health Care is, and other liberal drivel.

Am surprised anyone listening to Public Radio would be shocked, object to what they heard, since they pay for that service via their Federal income tax deductions and payment.

Good to see our founding documents being defended at KB. TY, Katiebee.

You see, Joan, your comrades in submission to the alt-right aren't smart enough, nor educated in the history and values of our Nation to recognize the founding document. E.g. The Declaration of Independence.

The Trump supporters, the rabid, dyed in the wool right-wing, unthinking, fascists, whom you parrot can't recognize one of our country's most sacred documents. In fact they don't recognize the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

That's the real problem, not immigrants, not ISIS, not any of the oh so important enemies that you and your cohorts trumpet about.

You are the enemy. You are an enemy of the Constitution.

[Katiebee]

You are incorrect, Joan. They made the decision to follow the fascists. They are unthinking drones. And you follow them.

[Athos_131]

After Years of Growth, Automakers Are Cutting U.S. Jobs

It’s happening despite President Trump’s promises to pressure automakers to save and create good-paying American factory jobs.

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