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Reply #2020 on: May 18, 2017, 11:50:19 AM
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Reply #2021 on: May 18, 2017, 03:19:06 PM
  Well, now everything to do with Trump, and Russians, is in the hands of the Robert Mueller, and Congress, the WhiteHouse can get back to the President's legislative agenda, unimpeded, and draining the swamp as promised.

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Reply #2022 on: May 18, 2017, 04:07:19 PM
  Well, now everything to do with Trump, and Russians, is in the hands of the Robert Mueller, and Congress, the WhiteHouse can get back to the President's legislative agenda, unimpeded, and draining the swamp as promised.

Well, sort of.

What I see is a president who started out with a weak hand who's suddenly gotten a whole lot weaker. I'm not sure that Trump can be effective at much with all this hanging over him.

Plus there's his staggering incompetence. That's not a made up scandal, and it has nothing to do with Democrats. Trump falls into a hole which he himself dug about twice a week on average.



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Reply #2023 on: May 18, 2017, 05:26:32 PM
Robert Mueller is a fair and very competent man, has a stellar history from his High School, College and U.S. Marine Corps service. I trust him to do a stellar and fully complete review of all that is known today, and to uncover any that is not yet fully known, to record it impeccably and to determine his commission's future, whether it turns from Special Counsel, to Special Prosecutor.

First, once he finds office space and furniture, and hires his own trusted hands, investigators and lawyers, to which they have allocated 50 days and unspecified amount of money (unstated to date that I can find), he can go to the beginning and investigate which Russians or which others tampered with the U.S. Election and/or if anyone tampered at all.  That will of course require seizure, forensics on the DNC servers and computers from their offices that were used during the Campaign.

Same with RNC, I would expect, to gain a full understanding. I imagine Seth Rich will come up in his review, and WikiLeaks, et. al., and will be interesting to see where all that goes.  Presuming he finds evidence of Russians, or whoever else bugging or hacking John Podesta's group, Donna Brazille, and D.W. Schultz et al, he can see where that leads, see the level of involvement of President Trump, and others in his sphere, and follow the fact where they may lead.

Lots of depositions to follow, and follow the trail where it leads, without any reservations. There is no time limit on a Special Counsel, and if he uncovers illegality in other areas along the way, that falls into his providence as well.

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Reply #2024 on: May 18, 2017, 05:58:38 PM
  Looks like SC Mueller needs to review all elements in detail of he FBI, and the Ex-Director of the FBI, to include his private and other notes, phone record notes and so forth, since Mr. Comey is being placed in the middle by unnamed sources that have the trust of the NY Times. Whoever was reading from Comey notes will be discovered as a matter of routine, by Robert Mueller, deposed and perhaps charged if warranted, by the time this investigation is over.

  Paid speeches, donations from Russian affiliated sources, Clinton Foundation donations with Russian affiliation, all contribute to the broader truth, and if not Mr. Mueller, then WHO will follow all those trails.  Maybe an additional Special Counsel could be required, if Mr. Mueller declines to follow some trails, so the American People, to include Nancy and Chuck, get to see all the details...

  Expect the White House, and Congressional Committees, and Party Leaders on all sides will decline further discussions on these matters, defer inquiries to the Special Counsel, so regular order may resume in Congress.

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Reply #2025 on: May 18, 2017, 06:34:14 PM
  Well, now everything to do with Trump, and Russians, is in the hands of the Robert Mueller, and Congress, the WhiteHouse can get back to the President's legislative agenda, unimpeded, and draining the swamp as promised.

Draining the swamp?  They are the swamp!  This is going down as the most corrupt administration in history!




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Reply #2026 on: May 18, 2017, 07:27:04 PM
  Well, now everything to do with Trump, and Russians, is in the hands of the Robert Mueller, and Congress, the WhiteHouse can get back to the President's legislative agenda, unimpeded, and draining the swamp as promised.

Draining the swamp?  They are the swamp!  This is going down as the most corrupt administration in history!



Yup, thanks. That point needed to be made.



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Reply #2027 on: May 18, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
  Well, now everything to do with Trump, and Russians, is in the hands of the Robert Mueller, and Congress, the WhiteHouse can get back to the President's legislative agenda, unimpeded, and draining the swamp as promised.

Draining the swamp?  They are the swamp!  This is going down as the most corrupt administration in history!



He may well be draining the swamp ... but he is refilling it with even more polluted water.



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Reply #2028 on: May 18, 2017, 07:58:02 PM
Another problem with Muller is that he works for the Justice Department.  Trump and sessions are part of his chain of command.  This means the investigation will not be truly "independent" and therefore congress cannot give up their oversight or separate inquiries.



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Reply #2029 on: May 18, 2017, 08:04:49 PM
Another problem with Muller is that he works for the Justice Department.  Trump and sessions are part of his chain of command.  This means the investigation will not be truly "independent" and therefore congress cannot give up their oversight or separate inquiries.

Muller's integrity (and the fact that he's not a career employee) go a long way toward mitigating that concern. It's not a perfect setup, but, compared to where we were at this time yesterday, it's a huge leap forward.

I think the Senate, as well, is beginning to get serious about getting to the heart of this issue (Trump's declining popularity is to some extent freeing Republicans from his orbit) so I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the Senate might get there first. A little healthy competition between the various investigative bodies would suit me just fine.



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Reply #2030 on: May 19, 2017, 01:19:38 AM
Furious Trump breaks Twitter silence with misspelled tweet complaining about ‘illegal’ Obama acts

Anyone have 7:45 am in the pool for when Trump would get his phone back this morning?

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Reply #2031 on: May 19, 2017, 01:29:22 AM

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Reply #2032 on: May 19, 2017, 01:55:43 AM

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Reply #2033 on: May 19, 2017, 01:57:51 AM

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Reply #2034 on: May 19, 2017, 01:59:03 AM

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Reply #2035 on: May 19, 2017, 02:00:52 AM


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Reply #2036 on: May 19, 2017, 02:04:58 AM

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Reply #2038 on: May 19, 2017, 02:32:49 AM

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Reply #2039 on: May 19, 2017, 03:43:37 AM
ROBERT MUELLER TO HEAD RUSSIA PROBE: FIRST THOUGHTS


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This was a good read.

This is an odd metaphor to me.

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President Trump just lost a lever with which to shape his own future.

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