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Reply #1500 on: February 17, 2017, 02:17:04 PM
Trump is doing a survey that looks (to me) as if he is seeking a reason to clamp down on the media.

You can take it here:

https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/

BUT

Read every question two or three times, they are worded very badly for transparency (very well if your plan is to spin the results).

Be ready to give a false name & email address as well, just before you get asked for money...




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Reply #1501 on: February 17, 2017, 02:35:34 PM
Damn that was a creepy survey.

I have no doubt that Trump is stupid enough to try and attack the press.



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Reply #1502 on: February 17, 2017, 02:46:00 PM

Trump is doing a survey that looks (to me) as if he is seeking a reason to clamp down on the media.

You can take it here:

https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/

BUT

Read every question two or three times, they are worded very badly for transparency (very well if your plan is to spin the results).

Be ready to give a false name & email address as well, just before you get asked for money...


I noticed that in the several questions about media sources, it mentions broadcast and online sources, but no print media. Perhaps that's because Trump supporters have a hard time reading?






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Reply #1503 on: February 17, 2017, 03:51:03 PM
Trump's approval rating drops below 40% in new Pew Research Center poll.

http://www.people-press.org/2017/02/16/in-first-month-views-of-trump-are-already-strongly-felt-deeply-polarized/


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The public has a more critical view of how this executive order, which has been blocked by the courts, was implemented. Just 28% say that, regardless of their view of the policy, they believe the administration did an excellent or good job of communicating the order and putting it into effect. While 17% say the administration did only a fair job of implementing the policy, 53% say it did a poor job in this regard.
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Reply #1504 on: February 17, 2017, 05:15:30 PM

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Reply #1505 on: February 17, 2017, 05:26:53 PM
More fake news. The National Guard is a State function, Governor controlled.

Trump weighs mobilizing Nat Guad for immigration roundups

I guess martial law is next.

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Reply #1506 on: February 17, 2017, 05:47:42 PM
More fake news. The National Guard is a State function, Governor controlled.

Trump weighs mobilizing Nat Guad for immigration roundups



I guess martial law is next.

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Not Entirely True.
The President Can Call Up The National Guard.
In Fact The National Guard Was Called To Active Duty For The Vietnam War.

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Reply #1507 on: February 17, 2017, 06:06:31 PM
National Guard units were federalized for active duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. Trump can do that too.

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Reply #1508 on: February 17, 2017, 08:07:47 PM

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Reply #1509 on: February 17, 2017, 09:09:55 PM
It seems that Trump does not know the difference between fake news, facts, and conspiracy theories. 




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Reply #1510 on: February 18, 2017, 01:08:21 AM
It seems that Trump does not know the difference between fake news, facts, and conspiracy theories. 


That's a very good clip, Lois. Thanks for posting it.

It's clear that what Trump is actually trying to do, with his various pronouncements about fake news versus good news (good news being defined simply as stories which treat him favorably) is wrap the general population up into his narcissistic bubble. The goal is to make it such that reality is defined by President Trump, and President Trump alone.

The good news is that a substantial majority of Americans reject this absurdity out of hand (evidenced by Trump's plummeting approval ratings). It's still scary, however, that there is a segment of the population that appears willing to ignore the evidence of their senses and intellects and turn their cognitive functions over to Trump. I would estimate that people who fit this category represent between a quarter and a third of the population.

Unfortunately for Trump (and luckily for us) there aren't enough of these semi-conscious drones to allow Trump to prevail. At this point what power he has comes ONLY from the fact that most Republicans feel it is to their advantage to link forces with Trump in order to accomplish common goals.

But Trump's nutter army and the Republican rank and file are a lousy fit, and the relationship is already strained. I'm going to bet on divorce down the road.



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Reply #1511 on: February 18, 2017, 01:59:33 AM
Obama and Bush '43 mobilized troops at some point, and the National Guard is a State organization, so would be a State Governor who would mobilize if ever for domestic tasks, not the President.

This story is Fake News, based upon a draft doc obtained, leaked perhaps by seditious Obama folks who remain until the departments can be fully staffed.




National Guard units were federalized for active duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. Trump can do that too.

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Reply #1512 on: February 18, 2017, 02:15:46 AM

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Reply #1513 on: February 18, 2017, 02:19:29 AM

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Reply #1514 on: February 18, 2017, 03:02:51 AM
Obama and Bush '43 mobilized troops at some point, and the National Guard is a State organization, so would be a State Governor who would mobilize if ever for domestic tasks, not the President.

This story is Fake News, based upon a draft doc obtained, leaked perhaps by seditious Obama folks who remain until the departments can be fully staffed.




National Guard units were federalized for active duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. Trump can do that too.
Your assumption is incorrect. The National Guard may be Federalized by the President at any time. They were during the civil rights movement during several crisis points. They are, for most parts, state militia. They answer to the local authorities until the federal government mobilizes them.

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Reply #1515 on: February 18, 2017, 03:26:18 AM
Obama and Bush '43 mobilized troops at some point, and the National Guard is a State organization, so would be a State Governor who would mobilize if ever for domestic tasks, not the President.

This story is Fake News, based upon a draft doc obtained, leaked perhaps by seditious Obama folks who remain until the departments can be fully staffed.




National Guard units were federalized for active duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. Trump can do that too.

@ Joan:

No it is not fake news, it is just news you don't like.  The Associated Press (AP) obtained the memo and asked the White House numerous times for comment.  The White House ignored the requests and so the AP ran the story. 

All the White House had to do was say that the topic came up, hence the memo, but they had never seriously considered it.

Fake News is stuff that is just made up to hurt someone, like the story about HRC running a child sex ring out of the basement of a pizza parlor.  You know, the pizza parlor that does not even have a basement?

*sigh*

No doubt you are like Trump, and you don't know the difference between conspiracy theories and facts.  No wonder no one on KB takes you seriously.



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Reply #1516 on: February 18, 2017, 03:35:03 AM

Skip to 14:40 of the video.


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Reply #1517 on: February 18, 2017, 03:58:03 AM

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Reply #1518 on: February 18, 2017, 06:17:02 AM
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Reply #1519 on: February 18, 2017, 03:22:36 PM
Fake News... certainly the Associated Press, having acquired some papers from unknown sources, not from the White House, being unable to get the desired response when asking the White House about said documents, and running the story anyway, fearing some other organization receiving the same leaked or stolen documents from whatever 'source' the AP used, blares invalid headlines about a National Guard Roundup of Illegal Aliens, is FAKE HEADLINES, and FAKE NEWS.

The White House need not respond to any request some reporter makes at all, let alone by that Reporter's "deadline" so as to protect the AP "Scoop".

The documents were not White House documents at all. Responsible journalists would confirm their stories as valid, and real, with multiple trusted sources, preferably on the record sources who can be trusted to give valid data, and will hold hysterical reports of round ups and so forth pending said valid information.

Was the story's allegation, the Headline Allegation true? NO. Fake News... no better than supermarket tabloids.  In fact, it does disservice to supermarket tabloids, when the likes of the Associated Press or the New York Times, or the Washington Post, all once venerated names of "trusted" News Organizations, allow themselves, for the sake of a 'scoop' to steal the headlines with invalid claims, and cause the resulting melee among their  competing news companies.

It took a 'supermarket' Tabloid to reveal that President Clinton was lying from the White House Podium, and in court for that matter, and resulted in his Impeachment, over the 'blue dress'. There are other stories where 'mainstream' media ignored stories, for whatever reason, resulting in suppression of public understanding, until some smaller, less agenda driven news organization revealed the truth about some politicians.

The once trusted mainstream publications and broadcast news entities are less trustworthy, and prove themselves so regularly, and so they earn the Fake News moniker that they once tried to smear legitimate organizations with.


Obama and Bush '43 mobilized troops at some point, and the National Guard is a State organization, so would be a State Governor who would mobilize if ever for domestic tasks, not the President.

This story is Fake News, based upon a draft doc obtained, leaked perhaps by seditious Obama folks who remain until the departments can be fully staffed.




National Guard units were federalized for active duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. Trump can do that too.

@ Joan:

No it is not fake news, it is just news you don't like.  The Associated Press (AP) obtained the memo and asked the White House numerous times for comment.  The White House ignored the requests and so the AP ran the story. 

All the White House had to do was say that the topic came up, hence the memo, but they had never seriously considered it.

Fake News is stuff that is just made up to hurt someone, like the story about HRC running a child sex ring out of the basement of a pizza parlor.  You know, the pizza parlor that does not even have a basement?

*sigh*

No doubt you are like Trump, and you don't know the difference between conspiracy theories and facts.  No wonder no one on KB takes you seriously.

Some people are like the 'slinky'. Not really good for much,
but they bring a smile to your face as they fall down stairs.