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Reply #1480 on: February 16, 2017, 03:49:29 AM
You are so full of shit Chirpinggirl it's no wonder your computer was full of crap.

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Reply #1481 on: February 16, 2017, 03:58:50 AM
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Triggered rainbow.   8)

You are so much fun to play with. You sparkle for all to see.



Rainbow.

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Reply #1482 on: February 16, 2017, 04:28:45 AM
Too bad you aren't even a woman.

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Reply #1483 on: February 16, 2017, 04:41:00 AM
Too bad you aren't even Human, rainbow. Or a good person. Or tolerable. Or in any way sane. You need help. Please seek it before you hurt someone. :D

You're no longer fun. You're being a meany.

I'm going to have to ignore you again until you stop being a meany. But since you're a crazy stalker I won't expect you to do the same.

Go back to being forever alone and miserable, rainbow.  :D

And you get to go back to doing what you do best, talking to nothing and no one because I won't be reading anything you post.  :emot_laughing:

Have fun, precious rainbow.  :D


Now back to Trump bashing. Ok, Katie? Can you do it? Can you go back to topic without having an insane meltdown? I have faith in you.  :emot_laughing:

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Reply #1484 on: February 16, 2017, 05:26:20 AM
You have always been a zero, chirpinggirl. You always want to be the center of attention, and you do nothing to earn what you desire. If you can't take the heat in the kitchen, then stay out of the kitchen.

There is no requirement that anyone should treat you other than as you earn it. There is no requirement that your purirle posts should get any kind of response other than the derision they elicit.

When and if you actually start posting something other than the drivel you mistakenly think is political comment, then you will get some respect.

Sensualtraveler, and Joan post political commentary and opinion. You fall so far below their abilities that one can only wonder how you make it through a day without soiling yourself.

They have my respect in this forum. You do not.

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Reply #1485 on: February 16, 2017, 03:47:34 PM

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Reply #1486 on: February 16, 2017, 03:55:45 PM

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Reply #1487 on: February 16, 2017, 06:37:08 PM
Is Dionne the first of the top level pundits to call for Trump's removal? He might be (it depends on how you define the categories). Regardless, it's significant.

Let's start a count. Dionne may be the first, but he's certainly not going to be the last.

Admit it: Trump is unfit to serve
By E.J. Dionne Jr. Opinion writer February 15 at 7:30 PM

Let’s not mumble or whisper about the central issue facing our country: What is this democratic nation to do when the man serving as president of the United States plainly has no business being president of the United States?

The Michael Flynn fiasco was the entirely predictable product of the indiscipline, deceit, incompetence and moral indifference that characterize Donald Trump’s approach to leadership.

Even worse, Trump’s loyalties are now in doubt. Questions about his relationship with Vladimir Putin and Russia will not go away, even if congressional Republicans try to slow-walk a transparent investigation into what ties Trump has with Putin’s Russia — and who on his campaign did what, and when, with Russian intelligence officials and diplomats.

Party leaders should listen to those Republicans who are already pondering how history will judge their actions in this wrenching moment. Senators such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham seem to know it is only a matter of time before the GOP will have to confront Trump’s unfitness. They also sense that Flynn’s resignation as national security adviser for lying about the nature of his contacts with Russia’s ambassador to the United States raises fundamental concerns about Trump himself.

The immediate political controversy is over how Congress should investigate this. Republican leaders say attention from Congress’s intelligence committees is sufficient, and for now Democrats have agreed to this path. But many in their ranks, along with some Republicans, argue it would be better to form a bipartisan select committee that could cross jurisdictional lines and be far more open about its work.

Those pushing for the select committee have reason to fear that keeping things under wraps in the intelligence panels could be a way to bury the story for a while and buy Trump time. Letting Americans in on what went on here, and quickly, is the only way to bolster trust in this administration, if that is even possible. And let’s face the reality here: It could also hasten the end of a presidency that could do immense damage to the United States.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions, in the meantime, must immediately recuse himself from all decisions about all aspects of the Russia investigation by the FBI and the intelligence services. Sessions should step back not simply because he is an appointee of the president but, more importantly, because he was a central figure in the Trump campaign. He cannot possibly be a neutral arbiter, and his involvement would only heighten fears of a coverup.

In this dark moment, we can celebrate the vitality of the institutions of a free society that are pushing back against a president offering the country a remarkable combination of authoritarian inclinations and ineptitude. The courts, civil servants, citizens — collectively and individually — and, yes, an unfettered media have all checked Trump and forced inconvenient facts into the sunlight.

It is a sign of how beleaguered Trump is that his Twitter response on Wednesday morning was not to take responsibility but to assign blame. His villains are leakers and the press: “Information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes & @washingtonpost by the intelligence community (NSA and FBI?). Just like Russia.”

It is notable that in acknowledging that the news reports are based on “information,” Trump effectively confirmed them. At the same time, he was characteristically wrong about Russia, whose government prevents transparency and punishes those who try to foster it. There’s also this: Kremlin agents stole information from a political party in a free country. That is very different from the actions of the media’s informants inside our government who are holding our own officials accountable for their false denials and fictitious claims.

It will be said that Trump was elected and thus deserves some benefit of the doubt. Isn’t it rash to declare him unfit after so little time?

The answer is no, because the Trump we are seeing now is fully consistent with the vindictive, self-involved and scattered man we saw during the 17 months of his campaign. In one of the primary debates, Jeb Bush said of Trump: “He’s a chaos candidate and he’d be a chaos president.” Rarely has a politician been so prophetic.

And this is why nearly 11 million more Americans voted against Trump than for him. His obligation was to earn the trust of the 60 percent of Americans who told exit pollsters on Election Day that they viewed him unfavorably. Instead, he has ratified their fears, and then some.

As a country, we now need to face the truth, however awkward and difficult it might be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/admit-it-trump-is-unfit-to-serve/2017/02/15/467d0bbe-f3be-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html



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Reply #1488 on: February 16, 2017, 09:12:03 PM

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Reply #1489 on: February 16, 2017, 09:20:54 PM


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Reply #1490 on: February 16, 2017, 09:23:40 PM
Trump's right, of course. The blacks all know each other. All of 'em. She should just set up the meeting. It's just like with the chicks. You can talk to one chick and know what all of 'em are thinking.




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Reply #1491 on: February 16, 2017, 09:32:04 PM
Rep. Cummings Calls Trump’s Accusations Of Avoidance False

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Cummings’s office released this statement following the press conference:

“I have no idea why President Trump would make up a story about me like he did today. Of course, Senator Schumer never told me to skip a meeting with the President.

I was actually looking forward to meeting with the President about the skyrocketing price of prescription drugs. What I have been doing for the past several weeks is working closely with my partner on these efforts, Senator Bernie Sanders. My goal was to finalize our proposal to allow HHS to negotiate lower drug prices so I could present it to the President. The President has said many times that he supports this proposal, so I wanted to have our bill ready to get his support.

I also sincerely have no idea why the President made this claim in response to an unrelated question about the Congressional Black Caucus. I am sure members of the CBC can answer these questions for themselves.

The skyrocketing price of prescription drugs is an issue that affects every American family—not just people of color—and I hope the President will make good on his promise to finally allow HHS to negotiate lower drug prices on behalf of American families. I look forward to meeting with him on this issue and others.”

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Reply #1492 on: February 16, 2017, 11:11:41 PM


#Resist
I think this is the Trump equivalent of the Nüremburg War Crimes Defense, "I was only following orders."

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Reply #1493 on: February 17, 2017, 12:50:51 AM
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Reply #1494 on: February 17, 2017, 12:51:51 AM
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Reply #1495 on: February 17, 2017, 12:59:34 AM

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Reply #1496 on: February 17, 2017, 01:06:27 AM
Robert Harward turns down Trump’s national security offer

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“Harward is conflicted between the call of duty and the obvious dysfunctionality,” said one person with first hand knowledge of the discussions between Mr Trump and Mr Harward.

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Reply #1497 on: February 17, 2017, 01:24:34 AM
Robert Harward turns down Trump’s national security offer

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“Harward is conflicted between the call of duty and the obvious dysfunctionality,” said one person with first hand knowledge of the discussions between Mr Trump and Mr Harward.

Just a heads up, Athos. Financial Times content is subscriber only, so I suspect that most of us will be unable to view it.



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Reply #1498 on: February 17, 2017, 06:04:02 AM
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
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Reply #1499 on: February 17, 2017, 01:17:18 PM
  Admiral Harward declined the offer, for a number of reasons HE cited, including family obligations. Less discussed was Admiral Harward's request to be able to name his own Staff, which was not agreed to sufficiently by the White House, at least in their preliminary discussions.

  The fact that General Flynn did nothing wrong, per the President, yet his resignation was sought by President Trump (and others in the WH Staff) had to be a giant red flag for anyone considering tossing away a lucrative current job, doing what he likes to do for lots of money, and throwing his lot in with the new Administration without choosing his own loyal staff, is not remarkable.

  There are others far more qualified than Susan Rice, for instance, who will do this job well, and the vetting will continue to find a good fit. Meanwhile, we have very competent people in place, and no shortage of talent in the current Acting General, who is very competent in his own right.

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