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Reply #1440 on: February 12, 2017, 02:44:01 AM



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Reply #1441 on: February 12, 2017, 03:39:47 AM
Or just don't spend it at all, return to the US Treasury...

haha, just kidding of course...


Hummmmmm.......If anybody is interested, I have several better ways to spend 21 billion dollars.......Education and Medicine for a start.
(Hello..?? Congress are you listening..??)

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Reply #1442 on: February 13, 2017, 12:04:52 AM

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Reply #1443 on: February 13, 2017, 01:33:09 AM
Today, I saw the following and I could not believe my eyes or ears. Theis person appeared to be reading his responses. Not only that, he would NOT answer the questions.

And he doubled down on ALL the lies.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-adviser-doubles-claims-voter-fraud-thousands-voters/story?id=45436933

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Reply #1444 on: February 13, 2017, 05:57:10 AM
Just a note. Pres. Trump now has a 40% approval rating for doing his job. This marked a steady decline since his inauguration. The poorest showing of any president in Gallups recording.

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Reply #1445 on: February 13, 2017, 04:59:13 PM
So much winning they won't be able to count it all. Winning bigly.

So Much Winning

Trump's net approval reaches -15 in latest Gallup poll.



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Reply #1446 on: February 13, 2017, 10:20:32 PM
Reality check!

Tucson leaders fret over economic impact of U.S.-Mexico feud
By Gabriela Rico Arizona Daily Star

Southern Arizona business and political leaders involved in cross-border economic initiatives are scrambling to quell resentment and fear over the feud between the U.S. and Mexican presidents.

A demand that Mexico pay for a proposed border wall resulted in Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto calling off a scheduled visit to Washington.

Closer to home, many residents in northern Mexico who would have made a trip north to Tucson’s malls this weekend stayed home and are urging friends and relatives to stop buying U.S. products or eating at U.S. chain restaurants operating in Mexico.

“There are many implications to the country as a whole, but to border communities especially,” said J. Felipe Garcia, executive vice president of Visit Tucson. “Mexicans are offended and want to stop shopping in the U.S. and stop buying U.S. products.

“We need that market of shoppers who spend $1 billion a year in Pima County.”

But, might there be some who think it’s a good thing for those shoppers to stay south of the border?

“We need those sales tax collections,” Garcia said. “If we lose that sales tax we have to make up for it somehow, like higher taxes.”

Lea Márquez-Peterson, president of the Tucson Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, said there is already concern from business owners in Tucson, Nogales, Douglas and Sierra Vista.

“We must consider the impact and threat to our local economies; to the business owner’s loss of revenues and the loss of sales tax, hotel taxes, gas taxes, etc.,” she said.

Shopping dollars lost by securing the border pale in comparison to what U.S. residents will save, said Ira Mehlman, media director with the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

“Enhanced border security needs to be brought to fruition, no matter who pays for it,” he said. “Even if U.S. citizens paid for it, it would be worth it versus what it costs to take care of illegal immigrants.”

Improved security wouldn’t just benefit U.S. residents, Mehlman said.

“It would also benefit the people coming across to shop and do legitimate things,” he said.

Garcia said there are social media efforts underway to keep Mexicans from spending money on U.S. products.

“Vamos a Tucson” (Let’s go to Tucson) signs have been photoshopped to read “íbamos a Tucson” (We used to go to Tucson).

“What’s happening is bringing out nationalism on both sides of the border,” Garcia said. “No one wins in that situation.”

TRADE RELATIONSHIP HANGS IN THE BALANCE

Manufacturers already doing business in northern Mexico are nervously watching the political drama.

As the White House throws out ideas such as a 20 percent tax on imports from Mexico to pay for the border wall, top Mexican officials say the country might simply walk away from NAFTA.

Mexico has trade agreements with 45 countries and could cozy up to the Chinese if no longer bound by NAFTA.

“China is very active in Mexico,” Garcia said. “If the U.S. decides to take a side role with trade, China is ready to step up. This is a big disruption.”

Márquez-Peterson said the chamber is working with other chambers to drive that message to D.C.

“We plan to continue our advocacy … on building rather than diminishing the relationship with Mexico to remain globally competitive against China,” she said.

Since taking office in 2011, Tucson Mayor Jonathan Rothschild has made improved relations with Mexico a top priority.

“The only remedy is constant communication, letting our friends and business partners in Mexico know that there are many of us in Arizona who believe these policies are wrong,” he said. “I will be asking Gov. Ducey, who has based much of his prosperity plans for the state on trade relations with Mexico, to speak up.

“Senators (John) McCain and (Jeff) Flake must also continue to speak up against what they know is damaging to the state and country.”

The Tucson-based Offshore Group is the largest private-sector employer in Sonora. Its manufacturing parks in Empalme and Guaymas have clients from around the world, and Offshore provides the labor and support.

It employs more than 20,000 employees in Mexico; 14,000 of them in Sonora. The tough talk coming out of the White House has put many employees and clients on edge.

“The idea that the U.S. economy is stronger by excluding its neighbors is equivalent to the idea the U.S.’s global interests are safer without its allies around the world,” said Eduardo R. Saavedra, executive vice president of business development for Offshore. “The challenge Americans and more specifically Arizonans face today is to understand how our economic, social and political relationship with Mexico strengthens us globally.

“If we took the same energy expended today to derail what has been built over the years and instead improved upon it, logic would say we will be better off.”

He said many people lack an understanding of how the cross-border relationship is beneficial.

“We owe it to ourselves to be informed on this critical issue from reliable sources, which is proving to be harder than ever,” Saavedra said. “We must become skilled now at deciphering between fact and fiction from our political leadership.”

http://tucson.com/business/tucson/tucson-leaders-fret-over-economic-impact-of-u-s-/article_5750235e-c8c7-5973-84a0-abcf58c94303.html



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Reply #1447 on: February 13, 2017, 10:23:24 PM
Damn it these people need to be taught a lesson!!!!

Let's cut off our nose to spite our face!

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Reply #1448 on: February 14, 2017, 02:13:02 AM
I think Donald should be writing a "Fiction Book"....He could title it "My Years In The White House" .

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Reply #1449 on: February 14, 2017, 02:49:52 AM
At Mar-a-Lago, Trump tackles crisis diplomacy at close range



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As Mar-a-Lago's wealthy members looked on from their tables, and with a keyboard player crooning in the background, Trump and Abe's evening meal quickly morphed into a strategy session, the decision-making on full view to fellow diners, who described it in detail to CNN.

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Even as a flurry of advisers and translators descended upon the table carrying papers and phones for their bosses to consult, dinner itself proceeded apace. Waiters cleared the wedge salads and brought along the main course as Trump and Abe continued consulting with aides.


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Reply #1450 on: February 14, 2017, 03:58:53 AM

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Reply #1451 on: February 14, 2017, 04:23:00 AM
Now that's transparency!  But maybe a little too transparent.  Were all of the onlookers vetted?



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Reply #1452 on: February 14, 2017, 04:34:03 AM

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Reply #1453 on: February 14, 2017, 08:57:08 AM
Michael Flynn resigns as national security adviser

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In fact, U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials have said that sanctions was a main subject of Flynn’s conversation with Kislyak on the day that the Obama administration announced a series of punitive measures aimed at punishing Moscow for its meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

U.S. officials said that Flynn told Kislyak that Moscow should not overreact to the sanctions, indicating that the two sides would soon be in position to revisit the matter, presumably in Moscow’s favor.

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Reply #1454 on: February 14, 2017, 09:00:57 AM
Republicans Tweet, Then Delete, a Fake Lincoln Quote

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The false Lincoln quote was immediately picked up by President Trump, who posted the image to his Instagram account.

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Reply #1455 on: February 14, 2017, 04:06:14 PM
Flynn is gone and may face criminal charges for leaking information & dealing with the Russians, a hostile power.  This could be outright Treason folks!  Not even a full month has passed and already scandals abound.

Petraeus is now being considered for the position of National Security advisor.


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But now come some obvious, and, for Trump, perilous, questions.

What did the president know and when did he know it about Flynn’s friendly and potentially compromising calls in December with the Russian ambassador? In those conversations, Flynn allegedly told the Russian to disregard the Obama administration’s imposition of new sanctions, because Trump would lift them once he assumed office.

Is it possible Flynn would have had those conversations with the Russian ambassador and not told Trump about them? Was Trump really flying blind when he praised Putin for not reacting to those sanctions? Who else in the chain of command, as chaotic as it is, knew of Flynn’s conversations and his assurances to Russia?

Now that Flynn is out of the White House, he no longer can claim executive privilege if subpoenaed to testify before Congress. Will he take the Fifth? Possibly. Will he talk? Unlikely. 
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Reply #1456 on: February 14, 2017, 07:06:27 PM
Run Flynn Run.....................!!!!

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Reply #1457 on: February 14, 2017, 08:15:42 PM
It.'s only Tuesday, and already the week has worn me out. I suspect by next Tuesday we'll have a new batch of scandals to process.

The Embarrassment of President Trump
By Jeffrey Frank   12:00 A.M.
               

After little more than three weeks, Trump’s behavior is no more erratic than it used to be, but in the context of the Presidency it seems so.PHOTOGRAPH BY MARIO TAMA / GETTY   

This can’t go on much longer, can it? In the past, the nation has had do-nothing Presidencies, and scandal-ridden Presidencies, and failed Presidencies, but until Donald J. Trump came along there hasn’t been a truly embarrassing Presidency. Trump himself looks out of place (that squinty-eyed frown, meant to bespeak firmness, or serious purpose, doesn’t succeed), and it’s easy to understand why he looks that way. He’s living a bachelor’s life in an unfamiliar house, in a so-so neighborhood far from his home town, surrounded by strangers who have been hired to protect him but cut him off from any sort of real privacy. His daughter Ivanka is close by, in the Kalorama neighborhood, but she has her own life to live, and her own problems—most recently, Nordstrom’s decision to stop to carrying her fashion brand. His wife, Melania, is two hundred miles away, in Trump Tower; for the time being, according to the family’s public statements, she’s there to look after her son, Barron, who’s finishing the school year in familiar surroundings.

Life in midtown Manhattan was good for a fellow like Trump, who was recognized everywhere and regarded even by his detractors more as a cartoon than a threat. He could enjoy the city’s pleasures, which included dining at San Pietro, a favorite restaurant. (Page Six’s Emily Smith recently reported that Donald Trump, Jr., may have been sending San Pietro-cooked meals to his father, but carry-out is never a match for the original.) For someone like Trump, Washington cannot be the most exciting place to live, and won’t be unless he begins to thrive in the company of world leaders who don’t speak English, and philosophers like Paul D. Ryan, the Speaker of the House, who could probably go on for hours about, say, how a medical savings account offers tax relief for low-income workers who are about to lose their affordable health insurance. Then there are the briefings and hours of meetings and piles of memoranda, but having to read more than a page, or too many bullet points, is said to test the limits of Trump’s attention—and the camera demands the image of stern attention. That, at least, seems to be one of his core beliefs.

After little more than three weeks, Trump’s behavior is no more erratic than it used to be, but in the context of the Presidency it seems so. This year’s “Saturday Night Live” season has been very funny, but the most startling moment was not a sketch but a depiction of something real: Trump’s obsessive tweeting, four years ago, about the end of the relationship between Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson. It’s been fascinating to watch him change policies in the twinkling of a tweet, as with his briefly confrontational China policy, inaugurated in December with a telephone call to Taiwan’s leader, and then reversed; or to witness his cobra-like lunges at newfound enemies, including Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal, who revealed that Neil Gorsuch, Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, had told him that he found the President’s attacks on the courts “demoralizing.” Trump just can’t seem to stop himself. Three months after the election, which he won, he’s still talking about those mythical fraudulent voters, and still calling Senator Elizabeth Warren “Pocahontas.” When he did so recently, in a room filled with senators, it got awkward; one attendee told Politico that “an uncomfortable silence” filled the room.

Those uncomfortable silences accompany chatter about Trump’s state of mind, which is abetted by talk from a leaky White House and even from a Trump doctor, Harold Bornstein, who may have crossed a doctor-patient confidentiality line when he told the Times that Trump has been taking the drug finasteride, to preserve his unique haircut. Writing in the Washington Post, Daniel Marchalik, a urologist at the MedStar Washington Hospital Center, discussed what he called “potentially life-changing and irreversible side effects that may be associated with these medications,” and which may include sexual, physical, and psychological changes, pretty much none of them good. It’s hard to dismiss all of this.

CBS’s Scott Pelley recently began his evening broadcast in a way that no evening news in this nation has ever begun: “It has been a busy day for Presidential statements divorced from reality.” He went on to give several now familiar examples, such as Trump’s insistence, contrary to all available evidence, that the press hasn’t reported on a number of terrorist attacks, or that opinion polls showing high levels of Trumpian disapproval are “fake news.” Perhaps there is some causal link between Trump’s distance from the recognizable world and his bodily distance from what once were the landmarks of his life, apart from brief treks to Mar-a-Lago. Living inside what Harry Truman called “the great white sepulcher of ambitions and reputations” (although Truman, for most of his Presidency, lived in the cozier Blair House), and not inclined to drop by the Situation Room when an anti-terror Navy SEAL mission in Yemen was about to go terribly wrong, it’s hard not to wonder where this Presidency will go next. The mood inside the gates is said to be distressed. “Really hard to overstate level of misery radiating from several members of White House staff over last few days,” the Times’ Maggie Haberman recently tweeted. Outside, those who worry about all this are worrying less about policies—even those that are regarded with revulsion—but, rather, about how much longer someone who controls the power to destroy the world will be able to control himself.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-embarrassment-of-president-trump



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Reply #1458 on: February 14, 2017, 09:42:47 PM
Oh Great......Adolph Hitler was a drug dependent idiot also.
When can we start comparing the two (or have we been).
Just what America needs a president who could go off the deep end..........

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Reply #1459 on: February 15, 2017, 03:38:17 AM
For all of the people who thought that nothing could be worse than a Clinton presidency, you have been sadly proven wrong. You voted in an incompetent who may also be mentally incompetent.

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