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watcher1 · **Reply #140 on:** October 24, 2008, 09:37:15 PM

I did take a postion. Obviously not the one you took. It would take a lot more than you and the other rantings to hurt my feelings, but if it makes you feel good, go to it. You must have slept through Philosophy 101.

Grm · **Reply #141 on:** October 24, 2008, 09:58:00 PM

Quote from: watcher1 on October 24, 2008, 07:37:53 PM

Hey RopeFiend,

I respect a person's privilege to call himself or herself an atheist, a believer, agnostic, or whatever, and I understand the so-called law of 1408, but with so many other things in the world that can be ridiculed, satired, made fun of, or just plain debased, I just think a person's religious belief is a very personal thing. Come back to me when you have experienced sitting in a bug infested jungle, eighteen years old, and seeing your best friend dying with a sucking chest wound, crying for his mother and praying the rosary. Talk is cheap when you live in the land of plenty.

I may be an Atheist/Agnostic, but I believe everyone has the privilege to decide what they want to believe in or not. I would never ridicule anyone about their beliefs. 1408 is about people being allowed to speak their mind, engage in arguments and debate without the fear of a heavy handed admin telling them they are breaking the rules.

When death is close it does often focus someone on what comes next. I have never been in a battle situation, but I can see how a mortally wounded young man, in terrible pain would ask for their mother and seek comfort in his religion.
Talk is cheap but, it is far better than war.

RopeFiend · **Reply #142 on:** October 25, 2008, 12:13:47 AM

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Watcher, you absolutely have a right to believe in WHATEVER you want to.

I also have the right to laugh my ass off if you think a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe.

However, many of your fellow Christians don't believe in the principle of "live and let live." As a result, I've gone on the offensive more than a few times just to nip any problems in the bud. Sometimes it's easiest to put out a fire using napalm.

In my (somewhat unusual) case, your fellow Christians take ME to be a larger threat to their beliefs than they do hard-core Atheists: I'm a Taoist, you see. That's MUCH worse than being a non-believer... I'm a BLOODY HEATHEN!! The most hilarious attacks I've had in the last 35+ years is when a Christian tells me that I'M GOING TO HELL!! when I think the whole concept of Heaven and Hell is utter bull meant to keep the sheep in line.

You can be any religion that you want in this country, as long as it's Christian.

If it makes you feel any better, I've read your book. Twice. I've also read 'Origin of The Species' (Charles Darwin, 1859), and of the two of them, his ideas stand the test of time. In the last 150 years, they've solidly disproven MANY of the 'miracles' in the bible as pure fiction, but there hasn't been a single viable disproof of Darwin. Scientists may have revised and refined his ideas, but the concept is fact, not fantasy.

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Gina Marie · **Reply #143 on:** October 25, 2008, 12:42:26 AM

As a fully recovered Catholic, I recommend you listen to this Jew. I love me some Lewis Black!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g

watcher1 · **Reply #144 on:** October 25, 2008, 05:08:47 PM

Hey RopeFiend,

What makes you think I am a Christian? Did I profess to being one? Seems you have included me in with the neocons, a group I have, in previous posts, condemned as bad for this country. You can believe in anything you so desire, even your flying spaghetti monster, but all I said was that a person's religious belief is a personal matter. Before throwing broad accusations around, you should know the facts. It does save embarrassment.

stefanwolf · **Reply #145 on:** November 08, 2008, 08:10:58 PM

If there is a God, I would like to think its religion is science. (note the neutral gender in my statement)

Circ · **Reply #146 on:** November 09, 2008, 07:47:31 AM

Circ · **Reply #147 on:** November 09, 2008, 07:57:38 AM

rache · **Reply #148 on:** November 21, 2008, 04:41:37 AM

Arguing about God is pretty funny. Killing people for God would be fuinny too, except it kinda hurts. Dying takes the fun out of so much otherwise cool stuff. I like God, I think He's a he and a pretty okay guy. Jesus was the Antichrist, I'm pretty sure, and I'm working on that for a NSF Grant I'm applying for in January. I think I'll get it. My theory, not the Jesus one, the God one, is that He doesn't really like being God. I mean, how much fun can that be anyway? Knowing everything, doing everything. You know, as soon as you apply a little Aquinas to the guy, He stops making sense and not in a cool way, like David Byrne, but in a sucky way like...Oh, Dan Quayle? (same time frame? close enough) See...You ask a question like, "If God can do anything, can He make a rock so big He can't lift it?" and the answer is "Who cares?" He's God. He made the universe and pushed the start button and now it's out of control. Nobody is running the show least of all Him! He has no idea what's coming next or why, he's watching us like a long, long soap opera, I bet. Probably living in Jersey, in a little studio flat above a porn theater. His girlfriend is a dancer named Molly. She's hooked on everything, but that's why He loves her. She's an angel.

That's like the very smallest little tip of my theory of God and I won't argue it one way or the other. I only refine it, day to day, hour by hour. Last week God was a woman, an older lady who washes my clothes. She wouldn't admit it, of course, but I wasn't fooled. I showed her my tattoo and she smiled. She knew.

God's a tricky bastard, but I see right through Him!

watcher1 · **Reply #149 on:** November 21, 2008, 04:51:04 PM

Interesting theory, especially with the 80's twist. Marvel at how much time has been spent over the centuries and the vast number of theories offered on whether there is a God. Keeps Philosphoy 101 profs employed.

Psymon · **Reply #150 on:** November 23, 2008, 05:24:25 PM

Jesus tap dancing Christ on a pogo-stick. This thread is like 1 year old. Wow thats the internet for ya hehe.

I can't for the life of me remember what i posted here about... yeah 1 year ago, and god dammit if my LBS isn't acting up and i can't bring myself to go back and find out what that was. What is LBS you ask? Well thats Lazy Bastard Syndrome, but enough about my problems. I can't bring myself to adhere to one set religion. They're all way to fucked up for me to believe everything they have to say. Which you need to do to truly be part of one religion. And every day i wake up and experience life i see more and more evidence that they're just wrong. I believe there is a god, but i don't believe he's infallible or all that stuff. He kind of just a guy to me. Who got bored of being by himself so he made little people to play with . However, we weren't all that nice to him. So he probably went off to try it again some place new. He still keeps an eye on us, but leaves us to our own devices more of less of the time. For all we know he's probably a nice guy with a wife and 2 kids. He works all day building worlds and peoples then he comes home to dinner and helps his kids with their homework, then he goes upstairs to sleep with his hot wife. I'm sorry if i can't bring myself to see him as a wrathful super powerful omnipotent deity but i don't see a reason for a wrathful omnipotent super powerful deity to make us. I mean what would he get out of it.

but hey thats just me.

Grm · **Reply #151 on:** November 23, 2008, 05:59:42 PM

Quote from: Psymon on November 23, 2008, 05:24:25 PM

but hey thats just me.

Well mate that's as good a fantasy as every other god believer's. Just like any other guy, wife and two kids. He would have created them too no doubt, bet god's wife is a honey, just cooks and looks after god's house and warms his bed at night. Wow that's mind boggling, god sex must be awesome, talk about seeing stars, his must be new ones. That's it! I've got it now, that is the reason the universe is expanding, god's getting it five times a night.

darklightsun · **Reply #152 on:** November 23, 2008, 10:31:37 PM

Quote from: Grm on July 15, 2007, 08:48:30 AM

Does God exist? For anyone with an open, enquiring mind there can only be one conclusion, extremely unlikely. I think of myself as an atheist, i.e there definitely isn't a god, but no one can prove there isn't one, so I guess I'm an atheist/slightly agnostic. Those who believe, just believe, why? Their parents believed and passed on their blind faith to their offspring. The belief in god causes more horror and distress to humankind than any good it purports. Isn't it time we ditched god and started using our brains?

I personally do not believe in God, but I would have to say if there is one I think his name would have to be Q cause he really likes to fuck with Humanity.

That said, I do not fault anyone their beliefs. Pray to any imaginary person you want to, just let the rest of the people pray to their chosen imaginary without fighting about it. Also, when you want to show me the error of my ways by quoting your holy book, at least have read it yourself and not just pass on the interpretation of somebody in a funny suit that you have to give money to so "God" will hear you.

Most importantly of all the advise I can give: Avoid organized religion. Speak to your deity on your own and study your scripture yourself. That way you have no one but yourself to blame if you get it wrong.

Grm · **Reply #153 on:** November 25, 2008, 12:45:37 AM

Gina Marie · **Reply #154 on:** November 25, 2008, 01:00:15 AM

BWAHAHAHAHA! +1 Daddy!!!

Psymon · **Reply #155 on:** December 01, 2008, 10:02:39 PM

Quote from: Grm on November 23, 2008, 05:59:42 PM

Quote from: Psymon on November 23, 2008, 05:24:25 PM

but hey thats just me.
Well mate that's as good a fantasy as every other god believer's. Just like any other guy, wife and two kids. He would have created them too no doubt, bet god's wife is a honey, just cooks and looks after god's house and warms his bed at night. Wow that's mind boggling, god sex must be awesome, talk about seeing stars, his must be new ones. That's it! I've got it now, that is the reason the universe is expanding, god's getting it five times a night.

Damn straight! God cums galaxies.

Lois · **Reply #156 on:** April 14, 2010, 01:39:05 AM

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
- Thomas Jefferson

I just found this quote.

mara101 · **Reply #157 on:** April 14, 2010, 01:53:17 AM

Exist, not exist...doesn't matter. Its all the gun waving, Bible-thumping, different-from-them hating followers of whatever god they chose that are the serious chin-scratchers.

maidboy · **Reply #158 on:** April 14, 2010, 04:42:29 AM

Quote from: Emily on April 14, 2010, 01:39:05 AM

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
- Thomas Jefferson

I just found this quote.

Repent oh ye heretic! Lest the wrath of the mighty Jove be visited upon thee!
May the Gods of Mt. Olympus forgive thee for thy insolence!

RopeFiend · **Reply #159 on:** April 14, 2010, 05:16:58 AM

Quote from: Emily on April 14, 2010, 01:39:05 AM

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
- Thomas Jefferson

I just found this quote.

A *bunch* of the 'founding fathers' were... damn... forgot the term. Not quite atheists, but very distrustful of the whole religion thing. That's a strong part of the reason behind the Separation of Church and State.

Jefferson was probably closer to a Unitarian than anything else. I found it interesting that he NEVER responded when his political rivals tried to attack his somewhat peculiar religious beliefs.

Jefferson also made his own edited version of the Gospels, literally cutting and pasting bits and pieces to make a more logical whole, but without the 'mysteries' that were added by the church. No 'virgin birth', no miracles, no zombie resurrection, just the important lessons that Jesus taught. I'm quite sure that Jesus would have approved.

Does God exist?

Circ

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