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Reply #300 on: August 18, 2011, 03:48:10 PM



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Reply #301 on: August 23, 2011, 01:27:13 PM
I'll have cake, please.

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Reply #302 on: August 23, 2011, 01:31:01 PM



oooh NOW I understand circumcision - it's to make cleaning easier after anal sex. (can I say "butt-fucking" in here?). Wait, that can't be right, the Catholic church doesn't promote it.....

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Reply #303 on: August 24, 2011, 03:53:46 AM



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Reply #304 on: September 08, 2011, 09:43:09 AM
yes......I can't imagine finding within myself the faith to believe that this earth/ universe is all a coincidence....so complex, yet simple...



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Reply #305 on: September 09, 2011, 02:09:16 AM
..one person with an imaginary friend is nuts - a million is a religion...

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Reply #306 on: September 11, 2011, 09:04:15 PM

Remember the Golden Rule: you do me, and I\'ll do you (paraphrased)


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Reply #307 on: September 16, 2011, 06:39:28 PM
A good friend of mine has offices and a condo in Shanghai. He used to have to visit the Russian embassy to attend church, but now there are numerous choices. He says, regrettably, that Evangelicalism is on the rise... lot of Bible thumpers over there.


You're right. And not only there, but in many other places around the globe as well. Shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Evangelical Christian missionaries poured into the former Soviet republics and have since made significant gains there, both in at least nominally Catholic countries like Lithuania and Georgia, as well as more Muslim-leaning countries like Kazakhstan. And they've been making significant inroads in many African and Latin American countries as well.


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Reply #309 on: September 26, 2011, 11:38:52 PM


Will ewe call me tomorrow?

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Reply #310 on: September 26, 2011, 11:44:16 PM
Best bits of The Life of Brian




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Reply #313 on: October 04, 2011, 08:18:53 PM
When I first saw this post it looked like toe was getting contributions from Joan in yellow.



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Reply #314 on: October 04, 2011, 10:07:58 PM
At last some good news, there is hope after all.

Rising atheism in America puts 'religious right on the defensive'

High profile of faith-based politicians such as Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry masks a steady growth in secularism

About 400 people are preparing to gather for a conference in Hartford, Connecticut, to promote the end of religion in the US and their vision of a secular future for the country.

Those travelling to the meeting will pass two huge roadside billboards displaying quotes from two of the country's most famous non-believers: Katharine Hepburn and Mark Twain. "Faith is believing what you know ain't so," reads the one featuring Twain. "I'm an atheist and that's it," says the one quoting Hepburn.

At the meeting, members of the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) will hear speakers celebrate successes they have had in removing religion from US public life and see awards being presented to noted secularist activists.

The US is increasingly portrayed as a hotbed of religious fervour. Yet in the homeland of ostentatiously religious politicians such as Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, agnostics and atheists are actually part of one of the fastest-growing demographics in the US: the godless. Far from being in thrall to its religious leaders, the US is in fact becoming a more secular country, some experts say. "It has never been better to be a free-thinker or an agnostic in America," says Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the FFRF.

The exact number of faithless is unclear. One study by the Pew Research Centre puts them at about 12% of the population, but another by the Institute for the Study of Secularism in Society and Culture at Trinity College in Hartford puts that figure at around 20%.

Most experts agree that the number of secular Americans has probably doubled in the past three decades – growing especially fast among the young. It is thought to be the fastest-growing major "religious" demographic in the country.

Professor Barry Kosmin of Trinity College, who conducts the national Religious Identification Survey, believes up to a quarter of young people in the US now have no specific faith, and scoffs at the idea, prevalent in so much US media and culture, that the country is highly religious or becoming more so. "The trending in American history is towards secularisation," Kosmin said.

He cites the example of the changing face of Sunday in the country. It was not too long ago when many sporting events were banned on Sundays and most shops were closed too. Now the opposite is largely true.

As in Britain, Sunday in the US has become a normal shopping day for many, or a day to watch big football or baseball games. "The great secular holiday in America is Super Bowl Sunday. Even in the deep south, the biggest mega-church changes its schedule to suit the Super Bowl," Kosmin said.

He also pointed to social trends – greater divorce rates, gay marriage and much higher percentages of people having children out of wedlock – as other signs that the religious grip on society has loosened.

There are other indications, too. For a long time studies have shown that about 40% of US adults attend a church service weekly. However, other studies that actually counted those at church – rather than just asking people if they went – have shown the true number to be about half to two-thirds of that figure.

More Americans are now choosing to get married or be buried without any form of religious ceremony. At universities, departments devoted to the study of secularism are starting to appear. Books by atheist authors are bestsellers. National groups, such as the Secular Coalition of America (SCA), have opened branches across the country.

Herb Silverman, president of the Washington-based SCA, lives in Charleston, South Carolina. His local secularist group was founded in 1994 with 10 people, but now has 150 members. "I've been living here in the buckle of the Bible belt since 1976 and things are getting a lot better," Silverman said.

Yet there is little doubt that religious groups still wield enormous influence in US politics and public life, especially through the rightwing of the Republican party. Groups such as Focus on the Family are well-funded and skilful lobbyists.

Kosmin said the attention paid by politicians and the media to religious groups was not necessarily a sign of strength. "When religion was doing well, it did not need to go into politics. Secularity of our population and culture is obviously growing and so religion is on the defensive," he said.

However, it is still a brave US politician who openly declares a lack of faith. So far just one member of Congress, Californian Democrat Pete Stark, has admitted that he does not believe in God.

"Privately, we know that there are 27 other members of Congress that have no belief in God. But we don't 'out' people," said Silverman.

Others think that one day it will become politically mainstream to confess to a lack of faith as US political life lags behind the society that it represents. "Politicians have not yet caught up with the changing demographics of our society," said Gaylor.



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Reply #315 on: October 05, 2011, 04:37:56 AM
Who the F*&% cares if they're "Good For Jews"? The question should be are they "Good for Americans?

(and of course, they're not)

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Reply #316 on: October 10, 2011, 11:11:06 AM
If you are asking if god exist? You must already have a clue. He does exist in everyone who believes in something bigger than them selves. It should not matter what you call your god, or how you praise him or her. What should be most important is to believe in something.
Why is it necessary to believe in 'something'?  Human beings have a limited life span, we all know we will die, so what comes next? This is why humans have been inventing 'something to believe in' for thousands of years.

I like to think it started with love, our father dies, he was old the oldest man in the village, almost 25 years old. We leave his body on a platform of hazel so that the wolves and jackals cannot reach him. Coming back every night to leave him food in case he awakes. His body becomes bones and so the family gather them and take them to the sacred hill to rest with the others. This way we can always find father and talk with him, all of his children loved him.



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Reply #317 on: October 14, 2011, 05:28:47 AM
No.

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Reply #318 on: October 14, 2011, 08:32:46 PM

Haiku:
Five syllables here,
Seven more syllables here,
Are you happy now?


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Reply #319 on: October 15, 2011, 03:24:21 AM
It's the agnostics mostly. And the believers would hardly question the fact, would they?
I love how you tell us what God has chosen to do.
But, no, I really do see your point in trying to be as offensive as possible. It just doesn't quite cum off.
But why do you call Grm and idiot or a coward.
I wish submitters could at least have a stab at being decisively on point in their unmeasured insults.
But you all use the same set of standard phrases in your limited Americana knowledge bank.


What kind of brainless twit would open a theological discussion in the Rowdy Room of a porn site?

Of course God exists.  Chosen ones such as I myself know that very well. 

He has chosen to obscure his existence from such puny, pungent, and ineffective life forms as yourself, Grm.  But you already know that don't you?  You've been maligned and ignored for your entire worthless life, and with good reason!

Have you ever wondered why it is always the atheists that ask "Does God exist?" One would think that they would be a little more sure of their position.  It appears that you are not only an idiot, but also a coward.







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