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Reply #20 on: September 01, 2015, 05:57:49 PM
My guess would be that "not present" means dead. You can still hold political office in jail, others have before and will again.


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Reply #21 on: September 01, 2015, 06:02:13 PM
Quote from: thetaxmancometh on September 01, 2015, 05:57:49 PM
My guess would be that "not present" means dead. You can still hold political office in jail, others have before and will again.

I don't know what it means. If it's ambiguous, like most statutes are, then the Court will likely rule that her not being there counts as absent. If it physically requires her to be there then her being in jail will force the alternate judge into power. Either was the will of the Court is going to be imposted here.


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Reply #22 on: September 01, 2015, 06:39:41 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/clerk-issue-gay-marriage-licenses-court-ruling-083217111.html


Seems that the Judge is not going to play with this lady.


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Reply #23 on: September 01, 2015, 06:52:52 PM
It will be interesting to follow. The courts have historically had a hard time holding elected officials responsible when they refuse to follow a law.


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Reply #24 on: September 01, 2015, 06:57:31 PM
Quote from: thetaxmancometh on September 01, 2015, 06:52:52 PM
It will be interesting to follow. The courts have historically had a hard time holding elected officials responsible when they refuse to follow a law.

Yes, but usually it's not them being in contempt of court. It's never a wise thing to essentially tell a Judge to go fuck themselves.


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Reply #25 on: September 01, 2015, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: thetaxmancometh on September 01, 2015, 05:29:41 PM

Ya MB, Piper posted that yesterday.


Wait: Piper posted yesterday an article that appeared in USA Today this morning? I mean, I know Piper's a smart and insightful person, but that's REAL talent!


Quote from: thetaxmancometh on September 01, 2015, 05:29:41 PM

Piper, you seem to have read more on this then I have... does she HAVE an alternate who could issue licenses?


If you had actually read the article, rather than dismissing it out of hand, you would have found the answer to your question.





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Reply #26 on: September 01, 2015, 08:55:03 PM
Sorry you choose to post something without reading the thread MB, your mistake. Piper posted a link about the EXACT same thing that your link was about yesterday.... that is what we were talking about.

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Reply #27 on: September 01, 2015, 08:55:40 PM
Quote from: MissBarbara on September 01, 2015, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: thetaxmancometh on September 01, 2015, 05:29:41 PM

Ya MB, Piper posted that yesterday.


Wait: Piper posted yesterday an article that appeared in USA Today this morning? I mean, I know Piper's a smart and insightful person, but that's REAL talent!


Quote from: thetaxmancometh on September 01, 2015, 05:29:41 PM

Piper, you seem to have read more on this then I have... does she HAVE an alternate who could issue licenses?


If you had actually read the article, rather than dismissing it out of hand, you would have found the answer to your question.






No, mine was a huffpo article. I don't know when I posted it though. Might of been this morning for all I know.


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Reply #28 on: September 01, 2015, 09:00:00 PM
Time stamp, it was yesterday afternoon. And your piece talked about the exact same thing.

The problem is that MB got her feelings hurt in a debate she lost and wants to continue the fight here. That is fine, though I thought she said that she wasn't going to talk to me anymore. Oh well, I didn't expect too much consistency :P You and I were having a decent discussion, she wants to be an ass and add nothing. Par.
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Reply #29 on: September 01, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
Quote from: thetaxmancometh on September 01, 2015, 09:00:00 PM

You and I were having a decent discussion, she wants to be an ass and add nothing.


Then why did you object to my posting that article -- an article that expands upon and provides more detail than the previous article?






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Reply #30 on: September 01, 2015, 11:11:44 PM
thetaxmancometh, please read the articles provided in the thread before acting butthurt.
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Reply #31 on: September 02, 2015, 12:43:01 AM
Athos, thanks for your "wisdom", I knew we could count on you  :emot_laughing:.

MB, you posted an article saying the same thing that we were already talking about. I pointed that out. I didn't object to you giving a link, but I let you know it was already being discussed.

"Ya MB, Piper posted that yesterday."

Nothing hostile in what I said at all.
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Reply #32 on: September 02, 2015, 01:23:25 AM
GB, sorry little man, but I suggest you look at the facts. I was having a good discussion with one of the few intelligent posters on the board. MB came and posted what we were already talking about. I told her that in a completely non-aggressive way:

"Ya MB, Piper posted that yesterday."

and then she went snarkmode and I responded.

This may be tough for you to understand, but just because someone is your friend or you agree with them politically is no reason to be blind to their actions.

Pearls before swine, I know.


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Reply #33 on: September 02, 2015, 01:31:29 AM
Quote from: thetaxmancometh on September 02, 2015, 01:23:25 AM

This may be tough for you to understand, but just because someone is your friend or you agree with them politically is no reason to be blind to their actions.


And this may be tough for you to understand, but just because you CAN be a troll and a condescending asshole, doesn't mean you HAVE to be.





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Reply #34 on: September 02, 2015, 02:36:17 AM
Would you people just relax? It ain't that Damn important.


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Reply #35 on: September 02, 2015, 02:41:26 AM
Quote from: MissBarbara on September 02, 2015, 01:31:29 AM
And this may be tough for you to understand, but just because you CAN be a troll and a condescending asshole, doesn't mean you HAVE to be.


Likewise, MB. If you were honest, you would admit to starting the snark in this thread.... if you were honest. And if GB were honest, he would admit that too (and trying to act the victim when he was the aggressor? Different guy, same gameplan) :p


Piper, I apologize on behalf of them, it was a good discussion. Thanks.
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Reply #36 on: September 05, 2015, 08:25:18 AM
It looks like they have tossed her ass in jail because folks were paying her fines for her.  Accordingly, the Judge felt that he had to punish her in some other way.

I respect that she feels that same sex marriage is wrong.  But freedom of religion does not mean imposing your religious beliefs on others. We have separation of church and state in this country for a reason.


If she felt she could not do the job because of this issue she should have resigned.


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Reply #37 on: September 05, 2015, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Lois on September 05, 2015, 08:25:18 AM
It looks like they have tossed her ass in jail because folks were paying her fines for her.  Accordingly, the Judge felt that he had to punish her in some other way.

I respect that she feels that same sex marriage is wrong.  But freedom of religion does not mean imposing your religious beliefs on others. We have separation of church and state in this country for a reason.


If she felt she could not do the job because of this issue she should have resigned.



Even crazier was the fact that he offered to let her out if she would agree to not interfere with her deputies issuing licenses, and she refused. She hasn't resigned because of dat pay I'm sure. In Kentucky 80 k a year is a nice healthy salary. It probably doesn't hurt that her Mother was the clerk before her, or that her son also works there as well.
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Reply #38 on: September 07, 2015, 03:12:35 PM

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Reply #39 on: September 07, 2015, 07:13:05 PM
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