The Clinton Thread: All things Hillary

[ChirpingGirl]

Wednesday will be end of Clinton's campaign.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/298883-roger-stone-threatens-wednesday-will-be-end-of-clinton

Sure.



For someone truly... "special".

[ChirpingGirl]

Glenn Beck: Electing Hillary Clinton "Is a Moral, Ethical Choice"

Why doesn't that moron just get down on his knees and lick her fuckin' feet?

[ChirpingGirl]

Glenn Beck: Electing Hillary Clinton "Is a Moral, Ethical Choice"

Why doesn't that moron just get down on his knees and lick her fuckin' feet?

He just did.  Breitbart is Trump's mouthpiece, so this is another salvo in the coming GOP civil war.

Indeed one is coming since that witch is constantly antagonizing Russia.

She's gonna be a cataclysm.

[Shlong Connery]

So says the lie machine supporting Trump.

[Lois]

It scares me to think Glenn Beck and I are on the same side.

[watcher1]

The Clinton campaign's fundraising will have amassed $1 billion dollars this week.  Obscene to see the cost of running for office is so out of touch with reality.

[ChirpingGirl]

[Meatbot]

The Clinton campaign's fundraising will have amassed $1 billion dollars this week.  Obscene to see the cost of running for office is so out of touch with reality.

And obscene to see someone so in love with money and power and so fundamentally corrupt  collect even more of the shit to wallow in.

Why is it worth so much to them for these people to get into these positions of power? It ain't for the simple satisfaction of a job well done, I can assure you that.

'bot

[Lois]

Without campaign finance reform, and the overturning of the Supreme court's Citizens United decision which allows unlimited campaign contributions, this will only continue.

As for judicial activism, wasn't declaring corporations "people" a prime example of this?  This opened the door for corporate financing of political campaigns.

[Lois]

I've said time and time again that much of the negativity people feel towards Hillary is because of the years of right wing vilification directed towards her.  Most of this vilification is based on falsehoods.  But if you repeat lies often enough, people begin to believe them.

A free e-book of the The Hunting of Hillary is available at: http://hillarybook.nationalmemo.com/

'Hunting of Hillary' Author on Clinton Conspiracies and Conservative Attacks
Joe Conason discusses his new book about Bill and the "vast right-wing conspiracy" against both Clintons

For weeks prior to Hillary Clinton's hasty exit from the 9/11 memorial event Sunday, surrogates for Republican rival Donald Trump were advancing conspiracy theories about her health. During an August 21st Fox News appearance, Rudy Giuliani advised viewers to "go online and [search for] 'Hillary Clinton illness.'"

"Take a look at the videos yourself," he said, referencing amateur videos that purport to prove Clinton has Parkinson's disease and a neurological disorder and that she's had multiple public seizures. (If you go down this YouTube rabbit hole, you'll also find "evidence" of Clinton being a reptilian shapeshifter.)

The fact that these videos exist at all, and that a major politician like Giuliani would endorse the theories they promote, contributed over the past several days to the transmutation of a relatively inconsequential health disclosure – Clinton having pneumonia – into a story that became emblematic of the Clintons' perceived secrecy.
"The atmosphere of conspiracy theory always colors the reception of any real news of [the Clintons], and I think that's pretty unfortunate," journalist and author Joe Conason says. "In this case, her suffering from pneumonia, which is a quickly curable illness, would be meaningless in almost every case except for two things: one, there is that little film of her stumbling, and two, this atmosphere that's being created around her supposedly being unwell or unfit for the job."

"This is somebody who underwent tremendous stress and an unbelievable work schedule for years as Secretary of State," he says. "She's continued to do that since she began the presidential campaign. She appeared for 11 hours before the Benghazi committee and barely broke a sweat."

When it comes to Clinton-related conspiracy theories, Conason, the founder and editor-in-chief of The National Memo, is something of an expert. In the Nineties, Conason was an investigative journalist known for his dogged work at the Village Voice – like his exposé of Philippines President Ferdinand Marcos' clandestine real estate deals – when he received a tip about Kenneth Starr, the special prosecutor appointed to investigate Whitewater. Starr's investigation would later expand to include the alleged sexual assault of Paula Jones, the death of White House aide Vince Foster and, eventually, Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky.

"There was a lot about the appointment of Kenneth Starr to investigate Whitewater that really stunk," Conason recalls. "Starr had a lot of conflicts of interest in being the independent council to investigate Clinton. He was very right-wing, he'd worked for the tobacco lobby. There were a lot of problems with him."

"I began to look more and more closely not just at Whitewater itself and all the so-called scandals, but really the origins of all that stuff: Where it was coming from, who was promoting it and why was the press doing such a bad job, as I discovered, covering these issues?"

The more he investigated, the more convinced Conason became that there existed a concerted, well-financed campaign to take down the Clintons. Conason, with co-author Gene Lyons, investigated the issue in the 2001 book The Hunting of the President: The Ten-Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton. (The most Hillary-centric portions were re-released as an e-book, The Hunting of Hillary, last year.)

Conason's new book, Man of the World: The Further Endeavors of Bill Clinton, grew out of a 2005 Esquire assignment for which he accompanied the former president on a trip to Africa to observe the Clinton Foundation's work first-hand. The foundation has, of course, recently been the subject of intense scrutiny, as well as right-wing attacks – attacks that, to Conason, feel eerily familiar.

Many of the accusations against the Clinton Foundation stem from the book and documentary Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich, which alleges that foundation donors earned preferential treatment from Hillary Clinton as secretary of State. The book was researched and written by Peter Schweizer, the president of the Government Accountability Institute, a group funded and chaired by Republican donors – including Steve Bannon, now the executive chairman of Trump's campaign.

To Conason, it's a shame that the accusations of impropriety have drowned out the good work the foundation does. "I'm pretty sure the author of Clinton Cash, and for that matter all of the journalists who have written stories that denigrate what the foundation's done, have no idea what it's really done. They've never gone to Africa, or Latin America, or any of the places where it operates. They've never talked to any of the people active in the world of AIDS treatment, the crusade to stop the AIDS pandemic, to find out what role the Clinton Foundation has played in it, or what role Clinton himself has played in it," Conason says. "The foundation has done really important work saving people's lives, and the fact that people in the press and on the Republican side of the aisle would be willing to throw that away is just immoral."

Statements like that have helped earn Conason the reputation of a Clinton apologist – a characterization he chafes at. "I wouldn't say I'm an uncritical defender of his at all, or the foundation, but I would say that given the preponderance of coverage going back to Whitewater, and now of the foundation ... my reaction to that is that honest journalism would try to correct that," Conason says. "To me the investigation of Whitewater revealed what [Hillary Clinton] called the 'vast right-wing conspiracy.' And guess what? There is such a thing. There was such a thing."

The opinion that the Clintons are fundamentally honest and good people is not a particularly popular opinion to have, even among some supporters. Case in point: while Conason was promoting his new book on Morning Joe earlier this week, hosts Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough grew impatient and incredulous as Conason tried to separate the accusations about the foundation from proven wrongdoing. "Are we all crazy, and there is just no connection" between the Clinton Foundation and the State Department under Clinton? Brzezinski asked. When Conason asked for a specific allegation, Brzezinski had none to offer – she instead referenced the general cloud of suspicion that hangs over the Clintons.

"And I want her to win!" Brzezinski said.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/hunting-for-hillary-author-on-clinton-conspiracies-w440032

[joan1984]

Unions are considered "people", when it comes to collecting dues and spending it on Democrat causes and races. Free Speech is Free Speech, and Corporations are nothing more than people who perform business functions, and pay those union members for their efforts toward the Corporation's goal of offering good products to "the people" (also 'people', get it?)... now a level playing field.

Any candidate may choose a public financing campaign, and no Democrat to date has agreed to that choice, even though it was widely promoted by Dems.
Candidates want to WIN, as they should, and the people win when all sides are heard fully. Bitching about it helps no one, just keeps radicals interested...

Without campaign finance reform, and the overturning of the Supreme court's Citizens United decision which allows unlimited campaign contributions, this will only continue.

As for judicial activism, wasn't declaring corporations "people" a prime example of this?  This opened the door for corporate financing of political campaigns.

[Katiebee]

There is a difference between a person and a legal fiction called a "person".

For clarification simply ask a lawyer.

Unfortunately, several judges don't seem to understand the difference.

[Lois]

And yet Unions are prohibited from making political contributions in many states.

People make up both corporations and unions.  So the people can make the donations, but the entities should not.

[herschel]

  I refrain from comment. It's enough for me just to know I'm right while so many are so blinded by bullshit.

[ChirpingGirl]

I refrain from comment. It's enough for me just to know I'm right while so many are so blinded by bullshit.

This.

[Katiebee]

The unfortunate part of your statement, Chirping Girl, is that in your case you are full of that bullshit.

[Sensualtravler]

And yet Unions are prohibited from making political contributions in many states.

People make up both corporations and unions.  So the people can make the donations, but the entities should not.

As they should be. (unions)

The Supreme Courts decision declaring Corporations 'people' has been one of the worst decisions the court has ever been involved in, and has lead to wide spread corruption of both parties. Neither party wants it changed from unlimited contributions.  Both parties want it for re-election money, and the many loop holes it presents for extracting personal wealth and power via even further favors to the contributors. Until someone with the integrity ( looking more and more doubtful under the present system ) to appoint to a judge(s) willing to take on the other appointees  to change the ruling, the American people will continue paying corruption monies out their asses.

[ChirpingGirl]

The unfortunate part of your statement, Chirping Girl, is that in your case you are full of that bullshit.

Only you could behave like a lunatic over a one word response.

[Katiebee]

Only you condense your political thought into banal me too responses.

[watcher1]

The Hillary camp is trying to denounce the head of the FBI for releasing the latest email problem.  The director of the FBI is in a no-win situation.  If he sat on it until after the election he would come across as favoring the Clinton camp.  By releasing the emails, he is praised by Trump and vilified by Clinton. 

No matter how stupid Trump looks and acts, he is neck and neck with Hillary.  What a sorry pair of candidates we, the voters, are faced with.