The Clinton Thread: All things Hillary

[Sensualtravler]

Just more BS from her for the uneducated masses who's naive enough to swallow it. She doesn't explain where and how the money will be raised to finance her grandiose plan, nor how she plans on enticing kids  back into school that make more money selling drugs  than they can with a college degree. Print more money and further devalue our already almost worthless dollar, so the drug dealers can further cut cocaine and  heroin, for more profit, with even deadlier poisons to kill the their buyers? Smart move Hillary, but the Clinton's have never bothered by conscience as long as they raked in profit and power. Good thing they have the Revvvverend Jackson and the inscrutable Al Sharpton to guide them.

[Sensualtravler]

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Also, $250,000 a year is not middle class. It is a quarter million dollars a year.  According to the experts, middle class is $47,000 to $140,000 per year.  So is Hillary planning to raise taxes on people making this amount?  I would also like to see the sources you used.[/color]



Boushey, however, did offer some sympathy for Trump’s efforts to address workers impacted by previous free trade deals.

“There is a lot of new research documenting how when you open U.S. trade, that can actually lead to negative outcomes for workers,” she said. “And that’s why this anger from Trump supporters is real even if you don't support his policy proposals.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-economy-217496#ixzz4Flo4SLN2
 
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How about her saying it in her own words?

http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/04/hillary-clinton-raise-taxes/

[Sensualtravler]

She looked great.  She did great.  Let's just fucking vote and end this charade.

If you believe looking: smug, self rightest and egotistical looks good, vote for her.

[Sensualtravler]

The latest polls are too close to predict.


http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/09/latest_odds_on_presidential_el.html

[ChirpingGirl]

She looked great.  She did great.  Let's just fucking vote and end this charade.

If you believe looking: smug, self rightest and egotistical looks good, vote for her.

Let's remember people have suddenly died after crossing the Clinton's.

[Lois]

 

I think you are confusing me with Joan, who declared those making $25,000 a year as middle-class.  In fact, I used the same figures you did to define middle class.

As for what I posted in my last post above, it came directly from Hillary's website.

[Elizabeth]

$140,000 a year is middle class...??
No one I know makes that kind of money and calls themselves "middle class".
WTH.....??

Love,
Liz

[ChirpingGirl]

Let's take everything a habitual liar puts on her website as absolute facts.

 

[MissBarbara]

$140,000 a year is middle class...??

No one I know makes that kind of money and calls themselves "middle class".
WTH.....??

Love,
Liz

What would you consider it?

If you live in any major city in the U.S., someone with an annual gross income of $140,000 is decidedly middle class.

[Elizabeth]

$140,000 a year is middle class...??

No one I know makes that kind of money and calls themselves "middle class".
WTH.....??

Love,
Liz

What would you consider it?

If you live in any major city in the U.S., someone with an annual gross income of $140,000 is decidedly middle class.

Without a doubt....."Upper Middle Class" in fact way upper middle class and even higher than that. But then I may be looking at that amount of money through what I see where I live. A house (3 bedroom) in Warren County NJ goes from 250 - 350 so at 140 per year you are making very very good money. 

Love,
Liz

[MissBarbara]

$140,000 a year is middle class...??

No one I know makes that kind of money and calls themselves "middle class".
WTH.....??

Love,
Liz

What would you consider it?

If you live in any major city in the U.S., someone with an annual gross income of $140,000 is decidedly middle class.

Without a doubt....."Upper Middle Class" in fact way upper middle class and even higher than that. But then I may be looking at that amount of money through what I see where I live. A house (3 bedroom) in Warren County NJ goes from 250 - 350 so at 140 per year you are making very very good money. 

Love,
Liz

In both of your posts you used the phrase "where I live." I think that's the problem.

It's a big country out there, and while an gross annual salary of $140,000 might be "upper middle class" and "very very good money" in your little corner of the country, it's decidedly not "upper middle class" in most parts of the country. (And I assume we're speaking of 2016, right?)

[Elizabeth]

Correct -----2016
So I have to ask, since you would know better than I would.
What is the average for living in New York City, I know it's expensive to live there, but just how much does it take to live there.?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking what you make for a year, just what it cost to live there (middle class for example), I mean I've heard stories about brownstones cost millions of dollars but that certainly isn't middle class.

Love,
Liz

[ChirpingGirl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XSuG5aCFGs&feature=youtu.be

[Lois]

Let's take everything a habitual liar puts on her website as absolute facts.

 

It is what she hopes to do.  But of course if Congress remains in GOP hands there will just be more obstructionism.  Hillary is not a habitual liar.  You've been reading to much alt-con stuff.

 

[ChirpingGirl]

Let's take everything a habitual liar puts on her website as absolute facts.

 

It is what she hopes to do.  But of course if Congress remains in GOP hands there will just be more obstructionism.  Hillary is not a habitual liar.  You've been reading to much alt-con stuff.

 

You would say she wasn't a liar no matter what.

 


Did you grow up during the hippy era?

[Katiebee]

Let's take everything a habitual liar puts on her website as absolute facts.

 

It is what she hopes to do.  But of course if Congress remains in GOP hands there will just be more obstructionism.  Hillary is not a habitual liar.  You've been reading to much alt-con stuff.

 

You would say she wasn't a liar no matter what.

 


Did you grow up during the hippy era?

You seem to have never learned to do critical thinking, so perhaps your judgement is faulty.

[MissBarbara]

Correct -----2016
So I have to ask, since you would know better than I would.
What is the average for living in New York City, I know it's expensive to live there, but just how much does it take to live there.?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking what you make for a year, just what it cost to live there (middle class for example), I mean I've heard stories about brownstones cost millions of dollars but that certainly isn't middle class.

Love,
Liz

Believe me, I make far less than that figure.

Again, New York City is a big place, with a very wide variety of neighborhoods and areas, so there's no one answer to your question.

I have a co-worker who has a nice, fairly large two-bedroom apartment in a good neighborhood in Brooklyn that's about a 35 min. subway ride from where we work, and she pays something like $1,700 per month. And I have a friend who lives in Soho, a very trendy neighborhood in Manhattan. She has a tiny studio apartment (no more than 400 sq. feet) which is basically one room including a tiny kitchen and an even tinier bathroom and she pays $2,800 per month. Location.

For the sake of comparison, one of my brothers owns a house in Suburban Chicago. It has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms, a large back yard, an attached 2-car garage, and a finished basement. His monthly mortgage payment is around $950.

You have to define what you mean by "middle class." Gross annual salary is one gauge, but, as noted, it depends where you live. I would very loosely define it, purely for the sake of discussion, as a gross annual household income between $50,000 and $250,000, but even that's dependent on a number of factors.

[ChirpingGirl]

Let's take everything a habitual liar puts on her website as absolute facts.

 

It is what she hopes to do.  But of course if Congress remains in GOP hands there will just be more obstructionism.  Hillary is not a habitual liar.  You've been reading to much alt-con stuff.

 

You would say she wasn't a liar no matter what.

 


Did you grow up during the hippy era?

You seem to have never learned to do critical thinking, so perhaps your judgement is faulty.

[Elizabeth]

Correct -----2016
So I have to ask, since you would know better than I would.
What is the average for living in New York City, I know it's expensive to live there, but just how much does it take to live there.?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking what you make for a year, just what it cost to live there (middle class for example), I mean I've heard stories about brownstones cost millions of dollars but that certainly isn't middle class.

Love,
Liz

Believe me, I make far less than that figure.

Again, New York City is a big place, with a very wide variety of neighborhoods and areas, so there's no one answer to your question.

I have a co-worker who has a nice, fairly large two-bedroom apartment in a good neighborhood in Brooklyn that's about a 35 min. subway ride from where we work, and she pays something like $1,700 per month. And I have a friend who lives in Soho, a very trendy neighborhood in Manhattan. She has a tiny studio apartment (no more than 400 sq. feet) which is basically one room including a tiny kitchen and an even tinier bathroom and she pays $2,800 per month. Location.

For the sake of comparison, one of my brothers owns a house in Suburban Chicago. It has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms, a large back yard, an attached 2-car garage, and a finished basement. His monthly mortgage payment is around $950.

You have to define what you mean by "middle class." Gross annual salary is one gauge, but, as noted, it depends where you live. I would very loosely define it, purely for the sake of discussion, as a gross annual household income between $50,000 and $250,000, but even that's dependent on a number of factors.

OMG...!!!!!
Your friends rent is more than my Mortgage payments on a 40 acre horse farm.
If this comes across wrong (I'm apologizing now), but I'll stay in the country...!!!
Your prices to live in the city are insane.........
(and I know someone is going to chime in about cost in the Midwest being much lower than the east / west coast).

Love,
Liz

[Katiebee]

Chirping Girl, you do have a problem with people taking you to task for making statements that are challengeable.

Continue to make generalized blanket statements that have little veracity and you can expect someone to think you a fool or worse.