The Clinton Thread: All things Hillary

[watcher1]

So it is not question of if, but when.  FUCK YOU GOP.

AND DOUBLE FUCK YOU KENNETH STARR.  FIRED TODAY AS PRESIDENT OF BAYLOR UNIVERSITY.  AND WHY??? IGNORING A SEX SCANDAL INVOLVING THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

Suck on that irony.

That old saying, "What goes around, comes around"  applied here for Starr.  Baylor U should be ashamed.

[joan1984]

The 'meeting' was on the tarmac at Andrews AFB, as the bodies were returned, and in the light rain, Secretary Clinton's face my have appeared wet. This is the same "meeting" where VP Joe Biden told the father of one killed at Bengazi, "your son had " a great set of balls ", as part of his comforting message.

Mrs. Clinton assured the parents and relatives that "we will go after the evil man who wrote that movie", as this was still the 'talking point', that 'The Movie Did It, not terrorism which has diminished on Obama's watch'.

So, did Hillary Clinton apologize to the relatives of the dead Americans? Not so much...  Will the autopsy, and actual autopsy 'cause of death' ever be revealed about our Ambassador who died on Hillary's watch? Was his body sexually used and mutilated, torn into pieces by "our Libyan loyal friends" as has been reported, or not? Cricketts.....

Has Hillary ever apologized to the surviving family members of the Benghazi screw up.?  Just curious.

Love,
Liz

Clinton met with the families of the Benghaz deadi, three days after the attack.    Barbara Doherty, Glen Doherty’s mother, remembered Clinton as being sincere and crying, according to the Washington Post.

[Katiebee]

There is so much pure bullshit in your post that I cannot even begin to address your points, whatever they were.

[Lois]

Joan's post is full of hate and anger.  I can't even imagine being so hate-filled.  Truly we all should pity her.

Has anyone read the Silmarillion by J.R.R Tolkien?  In his book there it was a fundamental concept that evil cannot create, only corrupt.   Orcs were created from Elves by Morgoth, who captured them and twisted and corrupted them with hate and anger until they became Orcs.

Just think, Joan could have been one of the fair folk, but hate and anger has turned her into something else.

[Plato5v]

What a choice we have this year!  It will be a choice of who is liked the most since both are over 50% in the disapproved category.  I would suggest considering either the Libertarian party or the Green Party.  You can still make a statement by voting for either of these parties.  They should be on the ballot in most States.

[Lois]

It would be interesting if everyone abandoned both of the Major parties, but sadly I don't think it will happen.

[Plato5v]

No, sadly, one of those two people will be President. 

[joan1984]

How about address the FACTS, and not whimsical fantasy novel characters. You are smart enough to be repelled by Mrs. Clinton as a trusted person for any post, and know her near constant lies, coming so easy for her, will bring her down, in November, or via Impeachment when the truth surfaces.

The first Clinton Impeachment archives conveniently achieve their 25 year hold as Mrs Clinton would achieve your apparent goal, completing 8 years in office, reaping her special brand of trouble along the way, and then much Truth will come forward, from the first Clinton Impeachment files, the stuff hardly anyone and NO DEMOCRAT took time to even visit, let alone investigate in depth.

Can imagine the second Clinton Impeachment files, will simply be spectacular.

Your choice is to vote for this liar, or not vote, very simple.

Joan's post is full of hate and anger.  I can't even imagine being so hate-filled.  Truly we all should pity her.

Has anyone read the Silmarillion by J.R.R Tolkien?  In his book there it was a fundamental concept that evil cannot create, only corrupt.   Orcs were created from Elves by Morgoth, who captured them and twisted and corrupted them with hate and anger until they became Orcs.

Just think, Joan could have been one of the fair folk, but hate and anger has turned her into something else.

[Lois]

The greatest liar is Trump, pure and simple.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

[Katiebee]

Considering that Kenneth Starr had to go an a fishing trip, exceeding the scope of his investigation, of course charges were brought against Pres. Clinton. You will note that the impeachment trial was for an incident unrelated to the original investigation.

[Plato5v]

It is interesting that people are arguing who is the biggest liar.  It seems everyone agrees that they are both liars it is just a question of who is worse.

[Elizabeth]

It is interesting that people are arguing who is the biggest liar.  It seems everyone agrees that they are both liars it is just a question of who is worse.

Not only that so much, but more to the point which one of these do you want in office for the next four years. I think MissB got after me about this, but it bears worth repeating: "Given Two Really Bad Choices, Which One Is The Lesser Of Two Evils". For Me, I won't cast a vote for either one, I'm going with Bernie.

Love,
Liz

[joan1984]

Perjury was the main charge, as I recall. The rest of the lying and sleaziness is what caused President Clinton, the first President Clinton, to be IMPEACHED.

When the Senate failed to act, aggressively refused to even look at evidence associated with the Starr Report, it fell to the trial judge who witnessed Bill Clinton perjure himself, to find him in Contempt, see him Disbarred so taking away his lifetime status under the law, and Bill Clinton agreed to that deal.

Mrs. Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Bill's partner in crime in the White House and in the Clinton Crime Family Foundation, continues to be on the loose, and has yet to answer for her many deceptions (lies) and deflections (lies) over the years, whether as a failed lawyer, expelled/dismissed for ethical behavior from the Democrats Nixon Impeachment Committee; the brains behind the White Water "investment" she dragged her family (husband, the Governor, one of her crooked brothers, their bosses and attorneys families, and others she later abandoned, along with Bill Clinton; and the "stock" deal, where little wifey Hillary supposedly turned a few dollars into the 'golden eggs', viola, on her first stock trade ever... remember that one?

That Mrs. Clinton... being teed up for the Second Clinton Impeachment, and Senate Trial... we shall see what President Valerie Jarrett rules for the Obama DOJ, and stomping closed the FBI's conclusions, before or after the November elections.

Considering that Kenneth Starr had to go an a fishing trip, exceeding the scope of his investigation, of course charges were brought against Pres. Clinton. You will note that the impeachment trial was for an incident unrelated to the original investigation.

[Katiebee]

Yes, it was perjury. During the fishing expedition that Starr conducted when he couldn't find evidence about the primary accusation. Nothing was ever brought to charges on the primary investigation, that of Paula Jones. Lewinaki was a fishing expedition unrelated to the primary inveatigation.

[staci]

All well and good. It comes down to do the people vote to elect your asshole or everyone Else's? I think it is a given which you choose and I will counter your vote by not voting for a bigoted, blowhearted, tempermental money grabber.

Of all their evils which one is the lesser?
More prone to mess up and their duties to fumble.
When it comes to the button, and ones on the red phone,
You chose bravado and I chose humble.

[Lois]

@ Joan

If you believe these things about Mrs. Clinton, then prove them.  The worst thing you ever got on Bill is that he lied (under oath) about certain details of an affair.  Such questions should never have been asked in the first place.

As for who is the biggest liar, Trump is way way way out in front of all politicians.  Check the links I posted.  And do more, check other politicians.  Mrs. Clinton is exceptionally honest.

[Elizabeth]

Let's face it folks........
It all comes down to one day in November.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Love,
Liz

[RopeFiend]

Perjury was the main charge, as I recall. The rest of the lying and sleaziness is what caused President Clinton, the first President Clinton, to be IMPEACHED.

Why am I not surprised that Joan has it dead wrong again?

Clinton was ACQUITTED.  The first president to be impeached was Richard Nixon. He resigned before the impeachment was either concluded or acquitted.

Are we a bit *blind* when it comes to our own party?

Looking back in history, Andrew Johnson was also impeached and acquitted over how he handled the fallout from the Civil War.  So, two acquitted, one resigned in dishonor.

[joan1984]

Clinton and Johnson were Impeached. Nixon was not Impeached, and he resigned in lieu of Impeachment. The Senate acquitted in the Johnson case, and in the First Clinton Impeachment as well.

Clinton lost his law license over his Perjury, by the Judge he lied to.

Perjury was the main charge, as I recall. The rest of the lying and sleaziness is what caused President Clinton, the first President Clinton, to be IMPEACHED.

Why am I not surprised that Joan has it dead wrong again?

Clinton was ACQUITTED.  The first president to be impeached was Richard Nixon. He resigned before the impeachment was either concluded or acquitted.

Are we a bit *blind* when it comes to our own party?

Looking back in history, Andrew Johnson was also impeached and acquitted over how he handled the fallout from the Civil War.  So, two acquitted, one resigned in dishonor.

[RopeFiend]

If you're gonna play games with words to salve your conscience, then all three were 'impeached' (accused, using the dictionary definition).  The impeachment PROCESS (legal term) actually went farther with Nixon than with the other two as he removed himself from office before the trial had a chance to get started.  He was most decidedly ACCUSED though.  They filed, and it was put before the House.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_process_of_Richard_Nixon

Clinton losing his law license would have been a separate issue; only the Bar Association can remove that, unless I'm remembering wrong.  Neither the Senate nor the House can remove you from the Bar.