The Clinton Thread: All things Hillary

[joan1984]

Gee, the crowd booed the Invocation, when they mentioned Hillary's name.

I guess no one here is watching or listening to Democrats Convention, Phila, PA today, or there would be more comments here... maybe KB'ers are wading thru the salacious emails released in the first batch by WIKI Leaks, showing how Dems collude with the media, and try time after time to get Bernie Sanders out of their hair.

When Rep. Debbie Wassermann Schultz tried to speak to her own FL Delegation this morning, she was shouted down and booed by the entire Delegation.

Exit Stage Left DWS... or will she be back to close the Convention? Who cares.

Seems more are upset about the choice of a Vice Presidential contender than even about the dirty tricks and illegal behavior of the financial donor handling of the DNC and of course of the Hillary Campaign, who controlled all the strings, all the various bank accounts.

There is not a lot of NEW News here, if anyone has been paying attention, and watching the actions of this slippery bunch with anything of a skeptical view.

FEC rules were obviously broken, and it may not be swept under the rug so easy this time, when they double dip on big donors by supposedly 'sharing' the booty with the DNC and with the STATE parties. States were given NOTHING in many cases, and HILLARY Campaign got the bulk, and gets to decide who if anyone gets any of the loot.

Who cares what language Senator Kaine speaks, or when he left his Religion behind (learned Spanish fluency as a "missionary" in Central America). Seems more needs to be unearthed about that 'missionary work' eh? Wonder if the Post and Times will send the planeload of reporters they sent to look into Sarah Palin's life, to see whether drugs or weapons were involved with the CA point in his life... he is a leftist, but not left enough for many Democrats... but then Castro is not far enough left for many Democrats.

So much for a smooth start, so much for "Better Together" and Hillary says she has not been paying attention, has not seen the Wiki Leaks Emails, plays Shultz again, knowing nothing... She did hire DWS though, just to keep her from talking. Might be the first time anyone kept DWS from talking, now that I think about it. We shall see.

Bernie 'may' calm the waters with his speech tonight... or Dems could burn the place down... anyone's guess at this point, as Hillary and Kaine make themselves scarce on the first day of chaos in Philadelphia.

Good food in Philly... Delegates will be happy and sleep well tonight, anyway!

[watcher1]

I still maintain these conventions are a waste of time and money. Nothing is ever revealed in these conventions and lately it seems they are just a big show.

In saying that, I do hope Sanders sticks it to Hillary and holds out until he gets what he wants from the party, seeing as they tried so hard to sabotage him.

[Lois]

It is known that the Ruskies hacked the Hillary campaign, and that Putin and Trump are good friends.  There is no doubt about how Wikileaks then received these emails.

Personally, I don't like foreign powers trying to influence our elections

I am going to start calling Trump the Manchurian candidate.

[Lois]

Trump has often received money from Russian investors for his real estate projects.  He wants closer ties to Russia and he admires Putin greatly, and Putin admires Trump.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing

[Bexy]

Personally, I don't like foreign powers trying to influence our elections

You mean, like how the USA does in many countries? Tit for tat...

[insatiable]

Outsiders perspective: Democrats done goofed up, they done shite and got caught. Doesn't matter how. They are shite.
But till things changes you guys have only two choices, both are shite. Vote for one which is less bad shite. If you don't and the worse shitbag got selected, you gonna spent way of your life regretting it. Don't vote out of hate, there is enough of that already, rather vote for whichever shitbag is less bad. Probably nothing good is coming out of these two, but you gotta minimise the damages. Ask UK, they know the regret.

[joan1984]

  So, your issue is how the reality became public, not that the underhanded and illegal activity occurred and likely still is occurring, just change a name here and there, employ the DWS snake in the Hillary Campaign, and likely in the new Clinton Administration, as she will not be reelected for more of this by her home district, who were the ones booing her to the point Security was needed for her to leave the venue.

  Illicit, illegal, no ethics, all ok, blame Trump somehow, and move on.

  Thats the ticket!

[Katiebee]

Joan, I am very tired of your snide remarks.

Why don't you stop fucking around being a whining jerk and simply state your position?

Or is that too difficult for you?

[Lois]

Personally, I don't like foreign powers trying to influence our elections

You mean, like how the USA does in many countries? Tit for tat...

Exactly.  But the real issue here is if Americans should/would vote for a guy bought and paid for by Putin.

[Lois]

  So, your issue is how the reality became public, not that the underhanded and illegal activity occurred and likely still is occurring, just change a name here and there, employ the DWS snake in the Hillary Campaign, and likely in the new Clinton Administration, as she will not be reelected for more of this by her home district, who were the ones booing her to the point Security was needed for her to leave the venue.

  Illicit, illegal, no ethics, all ok, blame Trump somehow, and move on.

  Thats the ticket!

First off, we don't know if the emails were authentic.  They may have been doctored by the Russians before being released to Wikileaks.

Second, it was not "illegal", as this implies there is a federal or state law against what the emails seemed to reveal.  The violation was in regards to Democratic Party rules.

Third, there is no way Bernie would have won anyway.

And finally, if Putin had the emails hacked and released to assist the Trump campaign, it should be of concern to all of us.  Further, if Trump is receiving donations from foreigners, it is against the law and of great concern.

[Piper-Dreams]

Joan, I am very tired of your snide remarks.

Why don't you stop fucking around being a whining jerk and simply state your position?

Or is that too difficult for you?

But then she would have to read something other than the Drudge Report! 

[Lois]

And Breithate.

[TheLurker]

Just vote Bernie anyway.

Trump is going to beat Hillary no matter what. And we'll all end up paying for it.

[joan1984]

Actually, the REAL issue is whether Americans should/would vote for a Party as corrupt as the Democrats, and a person as crooked as Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Personally, I don't like foreign powers trying to influence our elections

You mean, like how the USA does in many countries? Tit for tat...

Exactly.  But the real issue here is if Americans should/would vote for a guy bought and paid for by Putin.

[GEMINIGUY]

Crooked as Hillary? Didn't you read Lois' Topic about the truth about Hillary, Joan? People are fed lies and in turn the spew shit they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

[joan1984]

Right! Exactly! Everyone loves Hillary!

Crooked as Hillary? Didn't you read Lois' Topic about the truth about Hillary, Joan? People are fed lies and in turn the spew shit they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

[Lois]

I am surprised that anyone calls Hillary "crooked" compared to Donald Trump.  Can you say "Trump University?" 

And what about encouraging his supporters to break the law by offering to pay their legal fees if they assault protesters at his rallies? This is called criminal facilitation.

And what about Trumps use of his non-profit Trump foundation to give political contributions?  This is clearly breaking the law.

Trump has also violated black-letter federal law by sending campaign fundraising emails to foreign nationals — including foreign politicians.

Also, under federal law, corporations cannot contribute money or in-kind services directly to federal candidates, yet he has used his corporate employees and resources to fund his campaign.

And what about his hiring of undocumented foreign workers?  Manhattan Judge Charles Stewart ruled against Trump saying that his representative "knew that the Polish workers were doing demolition work" and that Trump participated in a "conspiracy" to cheat the union.

Now tell me what Hillary has done that compares to Donald Trump's crookedness.

[Piper-Dreams]

Actually, the REAL issue is whether Americans should/would vote for a Party as corrupt as the Democrats, and a person as crooked as Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Personally, I don't like foreign powers trying to influence our elections

You mean, like how the USA does in many countries? Tit for tat...

Exactly.  But the real issue here is if Americans should/would vote for a guy bought and paid for by Putin.

Yeah, because a corrupt billionaire is so much better. 

[MintJulie]

I am surprised that anyone calls Hillary "crooked" compared to Donald Trump.  Can you say "Trump University?" 

And what about encouraging his supporters to break the law by offering to pay their legal fees if they assault protesters at his rallies? This is called criminal facilitation.

And what about Trumps use of his non-profit Trump foundation to give political contributions?  This is clearly breaking the law.

Trump has also violated black-letter federal law by sending campaign fundraising emails to foreign nationals — including foreign politicians.

Also, under federal law, corporations cannot contribute money or in-kind services directly to federal candidates, yet he has used his corporate employees and resources to fund his campaign.

And what about his hiring of undocumented foreign workers?  Manhattan Judge Charles Stewart ruled against Trump saying that his representative "knew that the Polish workers were doing demolition work" and that Trump participated in a "conspiracy" to cheat the union.

Now tell me what Hillary has done that compares to Donald Trump's crookedness.

And what about Trump urging Russia to release/find/hack Hillarys emails.  A presidential nominee encouraging espionage against a high ranking US official.   I sort of have a problem with that. 

NY Times

[joan1984]

Would love for Donald to request Putin hook him up with the ex IRS commissioner, Lois Lerner?, for her emails, we still have not seen them.
Seems they were "lost", some glitch or something, all on the up and up, nothing to worry our little heads about...

Why worry about Hillary's emails being made public, she has already told us they contain nothing but her exercise clothing purchases, XXXL yoga pants and the like, and Pilates plans, and wedding plans for Web Hubble's daughter to that Hedge Fund guy, whatever.

Just regular down home American personal emails, nothing to worry about there, or she would have turned them all in.

Of course she would have printed them out and shredded them first maybe, just to keep life interesting for the State Dept. I mean, why turn over the digital file in a searchable format?

Pshaw...

And what about Trump urging Russia to release/find/hack Hillarys emails.  A presidential nominee encouraging espionage against a high ranking US official.   I sort of have a problem with that. 

NY Times