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Offline Lois

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on: March 05, 2015, 03:53:43 PM
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So there's this new breed of dude out there. They call themselves "nice guys." Their hobbies are bitching about how women fall for bad-boy douchebags and claiming that they'd be SO much better for said women.

And bitter masturbation. Can't forget bitter masturbation. Beating your meat after defeat is so elite. Don't forget to bleat that you're sweet and discreet and such a treat because you're not into deceit and you don't mistreat and even put down the toilet seat.

Apparently, we have a segment of the population that thinks if you treat women as human beings rather than disposable cumdumpsters, women somehow OWE you something.

That is NOT "nice." That's fucking passive-aggressive asshattery.

What do women owe you? Common courtesy, that's about it. Your personality does not mean that an entire class of people owe you SHIT. If someone owes you something, it's part of a personal debt. An entire class of people doesn't owe you anything. Just because MOST of the 1% straight up robbed America, that doesn't mean that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet personally owe us anything (oddly enough, they seem to be the only members of the 1% who see us as human beings, rather than victims). Okay, maybe Gates owes us a little something over Windows ME, but that's a personal debt.

A part of this may be sour grapes. "Oh, he got that hot girl that I never actually made a move on! Well, I bet he's an asshole!" Um, no... he conveyed interest in a manner that was unambiguous. "See, he hit her! He's an abuser!" Without getting into the issue of if she LIKES being smacked around, didn't said "nice guy" come to this conclusion BEFORE evidence was presented? "She should've gone out with ME instead!" Uh... did you give her a reason to? No? STFU.

The passive-aggressive "nice guy" is the other side of the douchenozzle coin. Both types of guys treat women like shit, one side is just deluded into thinking he's being remotely respectful.

As an actual Nice Guy, I am getting fucking SICK of hearing about these idiots.

I'm not nice to everyone, but I try to be somewhat nice until someone gives me an engraved invitation to be Not Nice to them. I don't make it into some sociological agenda, I just naturally gravitate towards being a pleasant person to be around. I tell mean and sarcastic jokes, but I do so to entertain those I'm with. If you put me in your kitchen, I'll give you multiple shuddering mouthgasms because I like sharing good food. But if you don't put me in your kitchen, I'm not gonna become bitter and spiteful about it. Maybe you just wanna eat out, or you have your own recipe to try. The reason for not slapping an apron on me may have nothing to do with me at all.

Getting the metaphor yet, you passive-aggressive pricks? Even if you do get straight-up rejected, it might not be you at all. She might have something else going on.

Or maybe she senses that you bring nothing but bitterness and preconceived notions to the table. After all, you have deemed her worthy of dating you, therefore she should be eternally grateful and show her gratitude every day, right? Wrong.

What the fuck makes YOU so special that you don't have to offer a woman anything in a relationship, yet she is still the one who is the lesser partner?

Wait a fucking minute... the woman being the default lesser partner "just because..." hey, I've seen this movie before!

It's called MISOGYNY! Straight-up sexism! Dafuq is wrong with you? You think you're "nice" when you hold an entire gender in contempt for not automatically blowing you because you're not a 'roided up, over-aggressive Jersey Shore reject? Anyone ever tell you that the extreme opposite of something bad is almost always something equally bad?

The media used to terrify people with somewhat exaggerated mental images of black teenage boys shooting off guns and listening to a new style of music that encouraged being a crappy musician, but let's look at the opposite case: little old white lady, listens to old music and appears to mind her own business... until she gets onto the Homeowners Association and starts measuring everyone's grass with a fucking ruler to make sure it's kept withing regulation height... and gods help you if you want to remodel! And it's guaranteed that she'll vote for the most oppressive candidates out there because her church told her that this invisible sky fairy is deeply concerned about boys kissing each other and girls being punished for the horrible crime of having sex. I'd rather have the teenagers. They're young enough that their ways can be changed. Introduce them to some good music. Apologies to anyone upset over the fact that I used race to describe something. No offense was meant to anyone who wasn't one of this douchebag breed of "nice guys." I was making a point, I normally try to ignore race and I'll be quite happy when this particular divisor goes the fuck away and we're all just humans.

So, yeah. Being the complete polar opposite of something isn't automatically a good thing. Try something more moderate. You can respect women without trying to advertise it as your primary selling point (like the South likes to brag about their hospitality like they invented the concept, yet are no more hospitable than anyone else). If your primary selling point is treating people with common courtesy, then you're not a good person. Your primary selling point is one of your best features. If the best thing you have to offer is "I'm not a douchebag," then you are NOT OFFERING ANYTHING.

At least the asshole with the loud shirt and the orange skin is offering a good time. Buys drinks, buys the occasional meal, shows off a hot bod that many women want to touch (and promises said touching). What are you offering? Nothing? How exciting. Women want to stroke your nothing. They're starved for your nothing. Your nothing gets them SO HAWT that they need to keep a bucket between their legs to keep everyone from slipping on their juices.

What am I offering? The guy writing this? I'm funny and intelligent. I'm a great cook and I will fucking prove this on demand (assuming I like you). I keep up with the news so I have things to talk about. I like to engage in philosophical discussions. I care deeply for my friends, but not above dopeslapping one if he crosses the line. I know my entertainment and am willing to share it.

Which is why I'm not exactly single right now. I have something to offer. I offered it. The offer was accepted. A lover won't just fall into your lap, go out and fucking EARN one.

Learn to tell jokes. Learn to cook (many women of this generation didn't learn to cook due to various reasons, so this can be a major turn-on). Learn to hold a conversation. Be more than "not an asshole." Become yourself, already! Become more than "Bitter Passive-Aggressive Asshole #87249!" All the world's a stage, and you insist on being a two-dimensional bit character? No wonder the heroine wants nothing to do with you!



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Reply #1 on: March 05, 2015, 05:33:37 PM
How awful. Thank god there aren't groups of women who incessantly engage in bitter tirades of whinery against men.

While you're waiting in vain for that apology, why don't you make yourself useful by getting on your knees and opening your mouth


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Reply #2 on: March 05, 2015, 05:36:14 PM

How awful. Thank god there aren't groups of women who incessantly engage in bitter tirades of whinery against men.


Yes, that was my first take-away as well....






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Reply #3 on: March 05, 2015, 06:19:44 PM

Male dickheadery isnt any more acceptable just because female dickheadery exists.


Yet, the inescapable implication of this polemic/rant is that dickheadery only exists among men.



Speaking of dickheads, a good life lesson is to be weary of anyone claiming to be nice, or kind, or otherwise saintly. That applies to both the subjects and the author of the above piece. The claim is usually made because they are either actively trying to deceive you or they are insecure and feel the need to claim goodness to justify some of their actions. In my experience, nice people prove their character through their actions, not empty words.


Sage advice. And this applies to all relationships, not just romantic ones.

Yet, isn't the whole point of dating getting to know the other person's true character? Everyone, in one way or another, tries to make a "first impression" (good, "bad," or otherwise). It isn't really "deception," but rather, presenting oneself in a light that is perceived as being appealing to the other person. And, again, both in romantic and other relationships (e.g. burnishing one's resume, striving to present the best impression in a job interview, trying to convince the auto mechanic you know a lot about cars so he won't fleece you, etc.).





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Reply #4 on: March 06, 2015, 04:40:54 AM
The title resonated with me because I once met a guy who always referred to himself as a "nice guy", but was anything but a nice guy.  He knew I was in an open relationship with someone else yet he still went to that guy and complained that I was sleeping around on him. 

When that did not get my primary BF at the time to dump me, he then attempted to black-mail me by threatening to post my private emails (he stole my password) on a forum similar to KB that I used to visit way back then.  LOL!  That did not work because I'm not ashamed of being a slut.  :emot_kiss:

After that he stalked me and told all the newbies that I was pure evil because I'd rather go out with "shit-stains" he did not approve of rather than a "nice guy" like him.

So did the rant resonate with me?  You bet it did.




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Reply #5 on: March 06, 2015, 09:26:51 PM
Lois - a "nice guy" proves he is nice by his actions and not his words.  Obviously the "nice guy" you refer to did not walk the walk.  Guys like that make it hard for those who are genuinely nice. 

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Reply #6 on: March 07, 2015, 12:51:01 AM
Errr... sounds like she needs a good fucking.   :emot_laughing:

who Lois? Damn Toe, ballsy.



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Reply #7 on: March 07, 2015, 01:12:59 AM
So, women want Alice Cooper? ;-)

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Then it's good enough for me" - Adam Ant


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Reply #8 on: March 07, 2015, 03:13:16 PM
The point is that anyone who clings to the "nice guy" label too hard has something to hide.



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Reply #9 on: March 07, 2015, 07:02:52 PM
Trust me ........


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Reply #10 on: March 10, 2015, 05:15:21 AM
I've got targets they can paste on their backs.

:)

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Reply #11 on: March 13, 2015, 11:37:06 PM
I've got targets they can paste on their backs.

:)

Always willing to sharpen your shooting skills I see...... ;D

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Reply #12 on: March 18, 2015, 05:12:53 AM
I forgot what this was about when Lois said she is not ashamed of being a slut. I try to find things I like about everyone I know. Thank you Lois. Some things like that make my world a beautiful place.