Good Guy/Gal With A Gun

[Athos_131]

It is not needed nor desired to have neighbors commenting or advising our citizens about how to exercise their rights responsibly

I'm guessing you live in a bubble.  This is exactly how society works.

#Resist

[joan1984]

  That is your view, apparently, of how 'our' society works, and should work, and I disagree as to how 'our' society should work. Our society needs to strike laws already on the books which have not been enforced for some short period of time, a sunset should be placed on most existing laws, requiring a new action to renew, and explanation about why the law is essential to us all.

  Simply having laws for the sake of having them, encourages abuse via the selective enforcement of same. Understand this is a 'wish' and not reality in most communities, and still is my belief.

  The use of Laws to harass and complicate your neighbor's life is wrong, and such laws deserve to be overturned. New legislation should always sunset on a date certain, and require new legislative action, new on the record votes, to be perpetuated, so that legislators and politicians can be held accountable to their constituents in reasonably real time, like within 24 months in most cases.

It is not needed nor desired to have neighbors commenting or advising our citizens about how to exercise their rights responsibly

I'm guessing you live in a bubble.  This is exactly how society works.

#Resist

[Athos_131]

  That is your view, apparently, of how 'our' society works, and should work, and I disagree as to how 'our' society should work.

Yes, I denounce child rape.

You support it.

#Resist

[Katiebee]

  All people who own and use firearms should respect that accidental access and use is a potential problem, and each is responsible for taking positive actions in how the firearms are stored, and how access to others is prevented.

  Such responsibility is part of our common bond as upstanding citizens. It is not needed nor desired to have neighbors commenting or advising our citizens about how to exercise their rights responsibly, and legislation is not needed in this regard.

So you  are finally admitting that there are a great number of irresponsible gun owners who should not own guns because they either have very little knowledge of guns safety or just don’t give a crap.

[Lois]

I don't think that so much what she is saying, but rather that the irresponsibility of others is not our concern. 

She fails to realize no human is an island.  We live in societies that do what they must to protect their society.  Therefore we must be concerned with the irresponsibility of others.

[Athos_131]

I don't think that so much what she is saying, but rather that the irresponsibility of others is not our concern. 

She fails to realize no human is an island.  We live in societies that do what they must to protect their society.  Therefore we must be concerned with the irresponsibility of others.

There are more regulations to operate and own an automobile than a firearm.

#Resist

[joan1984]

http://www.wftv.com/news/local/intruder-killed-70-year-old-homeowner-injured-in-orange-county-armed-burglary-deputies-say_/677272934 

Wounded 70yo homeowner protects his domain, uses his 2nd Amendment Right to protect himself and his home/family from invaders.

[Elizabeth]

Joan...
Once again you have come up with a "Good Guy Story" that did the right thing.
And "Once Again".....that's NOT the problem. You have yet to address the problem of the innocent's that get wounded or killed. You have yet to address the Law Officers (other thread) that leave there weapons lying around and then can't find them....
You have yet to address the "Good Guys" with guns whose kids get ahold of them.
The "List of Failures" is far longer than your list of "Good Guys".
I'm a gun owner, and I don't / haven't done even half of the stupid things I've read about (just in KB). I will concede one point though, There are a few people (very few) that should be allowed to own guns, the rest should definitely not be allowed to own slingshots let alone a weapon of any kind.
And this thread of "Good Guy / Gal With A Gun" in all honesty is just "plain bullshit".....because you and I both know that for every "Good Guy" you find, you are being a coward and not saying anything about the dozens of failures that occur to your one good guy. Your posts are unrealistic, you want to find "that one" good guy, yet you skip (deliberately) over the ten deaths that should not have occurred because of guns in the wrong hands or guns being misused.
Sorry About That.....Truth Can Hurt.

Love,
Liz

   

[joan1984]

  I began posting the stories about a 'good guy with a gun', to counter the constant  barrage here and in mainstream media, certainly in TV "News" about how "gun confiscation" or some variant of that goal is what is needed, and how any "rights" are a simplification to be dismissed, Constitution or not.

  Responsible people act responsibly, generally, and irresponsible actions by irresponsible people are not welcomed, by anyone, including me. Taking some steps to assure that people tell the truth, and act responsibly is reasonable, in many endeavors, to include gun purchase, carrying a firearm, voting, being a citizen or otherwise a valid for employment person, etc.
 
  To that end, valid Identification is a great first step, and necessary step, for all, so at least the eligibility of persons in our community are established, or not eligible status is established, for many issues, including firearm ownership and self defense and the future of our Nation.

[Athos_131]

Responsible people act responsibly, generally, and irresponsible actions by irresponsible people are not welcomed, by anyone, including me.

This is a stunning sentence from someone who supports racism and pedophilia.

#Resist

[Jed_]

  I began posting the stories about a 'good guy with a gun', to counter the constant  barrage here and in mainstream media, certainly in TV "News" about how "gun confiscation" or some variant of that goal is what is needed, and how any "rights" are a simplification to be dismissed, Constitution or not.

What ‘barrage’ of ‘gun confiscation’ are you referring to, since as a gun owner I’ve seen nothing of that nature in the media or here?

[Athos_131]

Obama is still coming to take your guns.

#Resist

[MissBarbara]

  I began posting the stories about a 'good guy with a gun', to counter the constant  barrage here and in mainstream media, certainly in TV "News" about how "gun confiscation" or some variant of that goal is what is needed, and how any "rights" are a simplification to be dismissed, Constitution or not.

I follow this issue closely, and virtually no one who advocates for sensible gun control believes in "gun confiscation." More to the point, I've never once on KB -- and I've been here for a while -- seen anyone advocate for "gun confiscation." In fact, only a small handful of times have I seen someone advocate for an outright ban on guns.

But you're right in one respect: Right-wing crackpots certainly believe the Left is coming to confiscate their guns (from their cold, dead hands) and that belief, it's lack of truth notwithstanding, certainly fuels a lot of right-wing crackpot fires.

  Responsible people act responsibly, generally, and irresponsible actions by irresponsible people are not welcomed, by anyone, including me.

So, we should just assume responsible people will always act responsibly, generally, and the mere fact that "irresponsible people" are "not welcomed, by anyone," should suffice to eliminate this behavior? So, we should abolish laws against, say, drunk driving, or sexual assault, or murder because, well, "responsible people will always act responsibly" and "irresponsible people are not welcomed, by anyone"?
 

 

[Jed_]

  I began posting the stories about a 'good guy with a gun', to counter the constant  barrage here and in mainstream media, certainly in TV "News" about how "gun confiscation" or some variant of that goal is what is needed, and how any "rights" are a simplification to be dismissed, Constitution or not.

I follow this issue closely, and virtually no one who advocates for sensible gun control believes in "gun confiscation." More to the point, I've never once on KB -- and I've been here for a while -- seen anyone advocate for "gun confiscation." In fact, only a small handful of times have I seen someone advocate for an outright ban on guns.

But you're right in one respect: Right-wing crackpots certainly believe the Left is coming to confiscate their guns (from their cold, dead hands) and that belief, it's lack of truth notwithstanding, certainly fuels a lot of right-wing crackpot fires.

That pretty sums up the crackpots.  Doesn’t matter what people they call Liberals or snowflakes say they believe in, the crackpots will always assume hidden sinister agendas.

[Jed_]

It’s pretty much the Republican playbook, demagoguery.  They claim Liberals are out to do all these nasty, sinister, terrible things.  And that we never reveal we want these things is further proof how bad we are.  Yet absolutely no one wants to do what they claim.

The difference is, when Liberals point the finger saying this is what conservatives want to do that are actual sinister things, they say ‘Hell yeah!’

[joan1984]

http://fox13now.com/2018/02/03/good-samaritan-with-concealed-firearm-comes-to-rescue-of-utah-police-officer-during-assault/

In Utah, citizen assists, protects Police Officer under assault.

Good guy with a gun, just what was needed.

[joan1984]

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2018/02/07/escaped-inmate-custody-after-being-shot-victim-he-allegedly-carjacked/317399002/ 

Escaped convict, on the run, carjacks a carry permit holder. Felon shot, and recaptured in the process.  Thank God for the good guy with a gun.

[joan1984]

Bad guy with a knife is stopped
by a good guy with AR-15.
http://wgntv.com/2018/02/27/man-armed-with-ar-15-stops-attack-by-neighbor-in-oswego/

[Lois]

What an idiot.   

[Lois]

An article that illustrates that guns are dangerous, and that you are most likely to be safer without guns in the home that with them.

But of course Ayn Rand would say the child was just a socialist parasite that the mother would be better off without.

Ohio Police: 2-Year-Old Girl Accidentally Shot Dead By Mom
“She’s gone. My baby’s gone.”
By Mary Papenfuss

A gun being handled by a young mother in a town outside Cleveland accidentally discharged, sending a bullet into her two-year-old daughter’s chest and killing her, police said Saturday.

The mother, who investigators did not identify, owned the weapon legally and had a permit to carry a concealed gun, according to a statement from Wickliffe police.

Police and paramedics were called late Friday to an Econo Lodge in Wickliffe where they tried to resuscitate the little girl. She was pronounced dead a short time later at a local hospital. Three siblings in the hotel were unhurt.

“The safety was on when I dropped the gun and the bullet shot her,” the mother told a 911 dispatcher, Cleveland’s ABC-5 TV reported. “The gun dropped, I dropped my gun. She’s gone. My baby’s gone. She’s not breathing at all. She’s gone.”

Wickliffe investigators issued a statement extending “condolences to the family of this beautiful little girl ... all indicators are that this is the result of a tragic accident.”

An investigation is continuing. “The matter will be reviewed to determine what, if any, criminal charges should be filed,” said a police statement. “We are not releasing any names at this time as extended family is still being notified. This is truly a tragic situation; please keep this beautiful young child and her family in your thoughts and prayers.”

It was a tragic addition to grim news this week about child deaths or gun accidents. Shazeem Hayes, 19, of South Carolina, was sentenced Friday to eight years in prison for the death of his girlfriend’s son, 2-year-old Jacarion Gladden, who accidentally shot himself in the chest last year with Hayes’ 9-millimeter pistol

In another accident involving a young child, the father of a 3-year-old girl who accidentally shot and injured her pregnant mother faces trial on three felony counts. Menzo Brazier, 21, of Indiana, allegedly left a loaded gun in the car with his girlfriend and two young children when he went inside a  store Tuesday.

All told, 1,678 children age 5 and under in America died of gunshot wounds from 1999 to 2016, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/2-year-old-accidentally-shot-dead-by-mom_us_5adc0eb6e4b009869bfa07fc