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Reply #60 on: July 30, 2015, 09:12:22 PM
I know mental health is real after seeing some of the comments of the right wingers here

Texas Governor Vetoes Mental Health Bill Because He Doesn’t Believe Mental Illness Is Real

Even though Rick Perry has received his fair share of criticism for his actions as Governor of Texas, there are some believe that his successor, Greg Abbott, has revealed himself to have even “crazier” ideas. Examples include appointing someone who was homeschooled by Christian parents to oversee the state’s public education system and organizing the state’s guard troops to ensure that president Obama doesn’t “invade” Texas during recent military exercises. A recent investigation has uncovered an even more troubling action on Abbott’s part: shaping medical policy based on advice from Scientologists.

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http://www.greenvillegazette.com/texas-governor-vetoes-mental-health-bill-because-he-doesnt-believe-mental-illness-is-real/

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LOL.....Be careful Tom Cruise is a Scientologist.
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Reply #61 on: July 30, 2015, 11:50:25 PM
So is John Travolta and a ton of other celebrities. What's your point? :P

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Reply #62 on: July 31, 2015, 07:14:18 AM
So is John Travolta and a ton of other celebrities. What's your point? :P

You "want" them to work for the state of Texas...??
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Reply #63 on: July 31, 2015, 07:41:20 AM
My point is, please discriminate against all Scientologists equally. :P

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Reply #64 on: September 17, 2015, 04:20:11 PM
Texas Police Won't Charge Muslim Boy With Clock Possession

As you've probably heard (Dallas Morning News,  Washington Post, Popehat, everybody else who gets up earlier than I do, which is apparently everybody), police in Irving, Texas, have announced that they will not bring charges against 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed.

This is mostly because he did nothing even remotely illegal.

not a criminalThat didn't stop them from taking him away in handcuffs, though, after they decided the digital clock he built was "suspicious in nature" and that they didn't like his answers to their questions.

Just to be clear, as a New York court has just recently reaffirmed recently, you can say whatever you goddamn well please to the authorities (short of making actual credible threats, at least). Saying "the wrong thing" to a government official is not illegal. This is what the First Amendment is for.

Nor is being "suspicious" justification for an arrest, or even for stopping you on the street, unless the officer has a reasonable suspicion that crime is afoot and can actually articulate why he or she believes that. So why did they arrest him, exactly?

Well, he built this and brought it to school:

0916ahmedclock

It is a digital clock. (Ahmed likes to build things.) His English teacher thought it "look[ed] like a bomb. I'm confident that she, like virtually every other civilian, has never seen a real bomb, and this doesn't look anything like the bundle of dynamite with attached analog clock that she probably has seen in cartoons. Nor are there any explosives in this "bomb," but it does have that big digital display that we've all seen in movie bombs. The principal confirmed that this is what they had in mind. "It looks like a movie bomb to me," he reportedly told Ahmed.

But neither they nor the police ever believed it was in fact a bomb, as they all admitted later. Nor did they believe he was trying to get them to believe that. "We have no information that he claimed it was a bomb," said a police spokesman, and they never had any. "He kept maintaining it was a clock"—because it was—"but there was no broader explanation," the spokesman said. He couldn't explain what sort of "broader explanation" they were looking for, but I guess they wanted him to explain to their satisfaction that he wasn't going to use it like in the movies. The police chief seemed to confirm that this morning when he said the English teacher "was concerned that it was possibly the infrastructure for a bomb."

She almost certainly didn't use that word, for one of two reasons: either (1) it's got too many syllables for her brain to process or (2) she knows that's not what "infrastructure" even means. But the more important thing is that his statement confirms she never thought it was in fact a bomb, and the chief also admitted there was never any evidence that he "intended to create alarm" with what they insisted on calling a "hoax bomb."

He, of course, still defended what they had done, as did Irving's mayor (who has previously expressed great concern about "Sharia law" taking over in Texas, which is also stupid). This is because so many scary things have happened that "we have to err on the side of caution," he said, in this case by arresting a 14-year-old for no reason. And it was completely irrelevant, he insisted, that this particular 14-year-old was a dark-skinned Muslim named "Ahmed Mohamed." Their reaction "would have been the same" under any circumstances, he claimed.

Which is either not true or an admission that they would violate any 14-year-old's rights by arresting him or her without reasonable suspicion of a crime. Take your pick.

Source: http://www.loweringthebar.net/2015/09/texas-police-wont-charge-for-clock.html



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Reply #65 on: September 17, 2015, 04:48:01 PM
Sounds like a lawsuit is coming.

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Reply #66 on: September 17, 2015, 08:09:12 PM
Texas Police Won't Charge Muslim Boy With Clock Possession

As you've probably heard (Dallas Morning News,  Washington Post, Popehat, everybody else who gets up earlier than I do, which is apparently everybody), police in Irving, Texas, have announced that they will not bring charges against 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed.

This is mostly because he did nothing even remotely illegal.

not a criminalThat didn't stop them from taking him away in handcuffs, though, after they decided the digital clock he built was "suspicious in nature" and that they didn't like his answers to their questions.

Just to be clear, as a New York court has just recently reaffirmed recently, you can say whatever you goddamn well please to the authorities (short of making actual credible threats, at least). Saying "the wrong thing" to a government official is not illegal. This is what the First Amendment is for.

Nor is being "suspicious" justification for an arrest, or even for stopping you on the street, unless the officer has a reasonable suspicion that crime is afoot and can actually articulate why he or she believes that. So why did they arrest him, exactly?

Well, he built this and brought it to school:

0916ahmedclock

It is a digital clock. (Ahmed likes to build things.) His English teacher thought it "look[ed] like a bomb. I'm confident that she, like virtually every other civilian, has never seen a real bomb, and this doesn't look anything like the bundle of dynamite with attached analog clock that she probably has seen in cartoons. Nor are there any explosives in this "bomb," but it does have that big digital display that we've all seen in movie bombs. The principal confirmed that this is what they had in mind. "It looks like a movie bomb to me," he reportedly told Ahmed.

But neither they nor the police ever believed it was in fact a bomb, as they all admitted later. Nor did they believe he was trying to get them to believe that. "We have no information that he claimed it was a bomb," said a police spokesman, and they never had any. "He kept maintaining it was a clock"—because it was—"but there was no broader explanation," the spokesman said. He couldn't explain what sort of "broader explanation" they were looking for, but I guess they wanted him to explain to their satisfaction that he wasn't going to use it like in the movies. The police chief seemed to confirm that this morning when he said the English teacher "was concerned that it was possibly the infrastructure for a bomb."

She almost certainly didn't use that word, for one of two reasons: either (1) it's got too many syllables for her brain to process or (2) she knows that's not what "infrastructure" even means. But the more important thing is that his statement confirms she never thought it was in fact a bomb, and the chief also admitted there was never any evidence that he "intended to create alarm" with what they insisted on calling a "hoax bomb."

He, of course, still defended what they had done, as did Irving's mayor (who has previously expressed great concern about "Sharia law" taking over in Texas, which is also stupid). This is because so many scary things have happened that "we have to err on the side of caution," he said, in this case by arresting a 14-year-old for no reason. And it was completely irrelevant, he insisted, that this particular 14-year-old was a dark-skinned Muslim named "Ahmed Mohamed." Their reaction "would have been the same" under any circumstances, he claimed.

Which is either not true or an admission that they would violate any 14-year-old's rights by arresting him or her without reasonable suspicion of a crime. Take your pick.

Source: http://www.loweringthebar.net/2015/09/texas-police-wont-charge-for-clock.html


Of course the President had to get involved, tweeting the high school student that he liked the clock and would he like to visit the White House.  Political catering maybe?

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Reply #67 on: September 17, 2015, 08:23:52 PM
Or just emphasizing that school district and the Irving police are not smart enough or special enough to get an invitation to the WH. The school suspended him forb3 days even after he was cleared. When zero toleranceakes people not think, it's past time tondo away with zero tolerance rules.

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Reply #68 on: September 17, 2015, 08:30:03 PM
Or just emphasizing that school district and the Irving police are not smart enough or special enough to get an invitation to the WH. The school suspended him forb3 days even after he was cleared. When zero toleranceakes people not think, it's past time tondo away with zero tolerance rules.

I agree and why judges do not like set terms for crimes.  Every case is different.

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Reply #69 on: September 17, 2015, 08:37:51 PM
Makes you wonder....What if he built the clock in science class, what would have happened then?
If the kid is that good with building things, I hope his next project is building a computer, The Irvine Police will probably have a heart attack.

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Reply #70 on: September 17, 2015, 09:20:00 PM
In reality, hopefully he'll get a formal apology, lap up a little sympathy and have his initiative encouraged.

Handcuffs to White House: Ahmed Mohamed's change of fortune after clock arrest

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President Barack Obama invited him to the White House and praised his love of science. Leaders at Reddit and Twitter offered him internships. Google executives said they were reserving Ahmed a spot at their weekend science fair and MIT asked him to visit the campus.

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Reply #71 on: September 18, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
Makes you wonder....What if he built the clock in science class, what would have happened then?
If the kid is that good with building things, I hope his next project is building a computer, The Irvine Police will probably have a heart attack.

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He would be in Guantanamo right now then.



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Reply #72 on: October 20, 2015, 01:06:42 AM



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Reply #73 on: October 20, 2015, 03:01:23 AM
We only have assholes and fucking fascists in the state legislature. Sometimes they are both.

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Reply #74 on: October 20, 2015, 03:13:26 AM
What a bunch of idiots!  Someone makes a phony film and they believe it? 



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Reply #75 on: October 20, 2015, 05:09:27 AM
We only have assholes and fucking fascists in the state legislature. Sometimes they are both.

There's quite a few Morons in there as well.  I walk away shaking my head when I hear some of the gems the legislature here has pulled.

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Reply #76 on: October 24, 2015, 12:53:16 AM

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Reply #77 on: October 24, 2015, 02:13:50 AM
  It will get worse, when they find records to support the suspicion of the sale of body parts by Planned Parenthood, and the encouragement of patients to 'donate tissue', done to facilitate such sale.

  PP denies "sale", and further defines "sale" as charging for the individual parts. PP does agree that they charged between $60 and $120 per incident/sale of body parts, depending upon the tissue/parts requested by whoever was charged the fees, as 'cost recovery', by PP.

  PP now has ceased taking any fee for harvesting and shipping tissue / body parts, to clarify their position. Their claim is that only 'a few' PP offices and PP executives were involved; those were the people that were taped in the videos, one presumes, speaking cavalierly about how they could deliver 'intact' remains, and 'vary the techniques used to kill' the infants, so as not to damage specific parts, if only they knew in advance which parts to harvest.

  Thank God someone is taking harvesting of body parts seriously, as sale of such is very much against the law. Spinning by Democrats and agitators is not sufficient to those who enforce such laws, and ethics demands the investigation underway now.

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Reply #78 on: October 24, 2015, 02:42:36 AM
Thank god that the anti-abortion people won't stop at falsifying, lying, and generally showing that being "moral" doesn't also equate to being ethical.
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Reply #79 on: October 24, 2015, 02:44:28 AM
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