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Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
  National Kumquat Day - may as well have been the bill. This is the french Republicans pulling the woolies over the eyes of all those who hired them, just a month ago, to stop the overreach of President Obama, who campaigned to do so, and who sold out well in advance with coordinated White House and Democrat deals.

  Will fully fund anything Obama has asked for, and this is a ruse, nown to be a non-starter in the Senate; blatant theater. Such a pity.

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Reply #2 on: December 05, 2014, 06:38:31 PM
I hope they do squash amnesty and if they keep calling it "immigration reform" that's what they actually do. First step should be securing the borders.



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Reply #3 on: December 05, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
I'm really tired of the vague "secure the border" talk.

Define what secure means. Define how to do it. Tally the cost.

Or shut the hell up.

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Reply #4 on: December 05, 2014, 07:04:21 PM
Remember the "Secure the Border" comes from the same people who brought you "Family Values" but couldn't keep their dicks in their pants.

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Reply #5 on: December 05, 2014, 07:20:26 PM

House blocks amnesty plan.


It's not an amnesty plan. There's nothing in Obama's plan that has anything to do with amnesty. It involves putting a temporary hold on deportations and offering conditional and temporary working permits -- which would require the payment of taxes. Nothing to do with amnesty, or naturalization, or permanent residency.

Granted, the GOP needs to frame it in those terms, to "energize their base." And the GOP has never let facts (or reality) stand in their way.

Just for fun, compare the headline:

House Rejected Illegal Orders Because 'Enough Is Enough'

With the words of the Bill's proponents:

"Though the vote seemed like a token protest that would not go any further, it allowed House Republicans to vent their outrage over Obama's orders."

"It is symbolic."

"This is a bill that basically expresses displeasure. It has no actions in it, really. It doesn't try to solve the problem."

Way to go guys! Wasting time and money on an admittedly pointless bill.


P.S. I love the ad line right in the middle of the article, "The One Thing You Should Do for Your Prostate Every Morning." Probably a good idea, since the GOP Members of Congress insist on fucking all Americans in the ass.






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Reply #6 on: December 05, 2014, 07:23:16 PM
If you stop making it so easy for illegals to exist here, stop the benefits such as education, health care, being able yo work, get housing etc then they will stop coming here. That will be the first step. Stop the attraction.

If you fine employers who hire illegals, require proof of citizenship to enroll your kids in school etc that is one of many ways to show immigration is taken seriously.

Instead we make it possible for them to get drivers license and start posting things bilingually. I can go on for a while on this.



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Reply #7 on: December 05, 2014, 07:44:17 PM
I have to agree with MissB on this. ( ducks the bolts of lightning  ;D) There was no amnesty promised.  The President laid out a criteria that about half of the undocumented living here now will be unable to meet.  His orders will be to be tough on undocuments who commit crimes and those that are not married or have  not been in the United States for over 5 years. Included also is strengthening the border. 

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Reply #8 on: December 05, 2014, 10:05:49 PM
If you stop making it so easy for illegals to exist here, stop the benefits such as education, health care, being able yo work, get housing etc then they will stop coming here. That will be the first step. Stop the attraction.

If you fine employers who hire illegals, require proof of citizenship to enroll your kids in school etc that is one of many ways to show immigration is taken seriously.

Instead we make it possible for them to get drivers license and start posting things bilingually. I can go on for a while on this.
Fistly, bi-lingual signs and documents were not put in for undocumented immigrants. Talk to the Puerto Ricans and the Cuban émigrés. As well as a myriad of other documented immigrants.

Secondly health care and education are required social services that are not tied to citizenship. Neither are housing or drivers licenses.

Are you proposing a national ID system? How about a national security police? We could name them the Security Service and give them snazzy black uniforms and Jack boots.

And to show them we really mean business about illegal immigration we can put all illegalnmgrants in camps located in remote locales.

Does any of this sound familiar?

It should, because the policies you are advocating were implemented in another country, quite effectively.

I just don't think you understand where you are headed.

Every time fines are levied on businesses that employ undicumented workers the GOP raises a a holy stink about it's not the fault of the businesses and it's anti-american and it hurts the economy.


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Reply #9 on: December 06, 2014, 12:10:44 AM
The bill that was passed does nothing, as it goes nowhere. The point was to dupe any who would listen, while doing nothing effective but talk about it, inferring there will be change coming, but meanwhile fully funding all O has requested. They are in it with him. Congress has the same responsibility as the President, takes the same oath, and is just as responsible for him acting outside the Constitution as he is.

We need to develop actions to more effectively remove and replace our Representatives, and Senators, and Article 5 of the Constitution gives use guidance and powers in that regard, at the State Legislature level.

Meanwhile, primary elections are the only effective way to change the liars, bring in different liars perhaps, and begin to right the ship.

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Reply #10 on: December 06, 2014, 04:26:57 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/immigration-illegals-executive-amnesty/2014/12/05/id/611300/?ns_mail_uid=32241109&ns_mail_job=1598299_12052014&s=al&dkt_nbr=cbdaw35e

Seems there is another similar story with a different outcome.

Maybe katiebee won't go to rediculous extremes in her comments on this one.



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Reply #11 on: December 06, 2014, 06:06:21 AM
NewsMax?  Seriously?



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Reply #12 on: December 06, 2014, 12:09:17 PM
care to elaborate a bit on your brief comment Lois? Apparently you have an opinion about the source. i'd love to hear it or other sites you may have for info.



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Reply #13 on: December 06, 2014, 01:08:01 PM
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Reply #14 on: December 06, 2014, 05:09:29 PM
care to elaborate a bit on your brief comment Lois? Apparently you have an opinion about the source. i'd love to hear it or other sites you may have for info.

They are a right-wing news source similar to Fox News and Drudge.  And, in my experience, the people that use these sites as sources of information seem to have difficulty sorting the bias from the news. 



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Reply #15 on: December 06, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
Horny guy, when the GOP actually does something about governing I will. They have had six years and the most they have done is sit on one thumb while sucking the other, and occasionally switching thumbs.
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Reply #16 on: December 06, 2014, 06:59:53 PM

Fistly, bi-lingual signs and documents were not put in for undocumented

Fistly?  I know what you have on your mind....... 8)

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Reply #17 on: December 06, 2014, 09:41:50 PM

Fistly, bi-lingual signs and documents were not put in for undocumented

Fistly?  I know what you have on your mind....... 8)
Drop trousers and bend over Watcher.

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Reply #18 on: December 06, 2014, 11:05:16 PM

Fistly, bi-lingual signs and documents were not put in for undocumented

Fistly?  I know what you have on your mind....... 8)
Drop trousers and bend over Watcher.

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Reply #19 on: December 07, 2014, 03:52:07 PM

Fistly, bi-lingual signs and documents were not put in for undocumented

Fistly?  I know what you have on your mind....... 8)
Drop trousers and bend over Watcher.

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What? Fist an old guy like me? :o  I thought you may have had Liz on your mind when typing what you did... ;D

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