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Reply #20 on: April 30, 2014, 08:12:34 PM
As far as I know there is no evidence of Magic Johnson and V. Stiviano having a sexual relationship.  If anyone has an article stating otherwise, could they please link it this thread?


If anything, Sterling and Johnson had known each other for a long time.


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Reply #21 on: April 30, 2014, 08:47:24 PM
If California is a community property state, wouldn't his interest in the Clippers along with everything else but the mistress be given to his wife Shelly in a divorce? Could she then become the owner?

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Reply #22 on: April 30, 2014, 09:02:48 PM
Quote from: staci on April 30, 2014, 08:47:24 PM
If California is a community property state, wouldn't his interest in the Clippers along with everything else but the mistress be given to his wife Shelly in a divorce? Could she then become the owner?

It's possible.  It seemed as if Adam Silver didn't want anyone close to Sterling to retain ownership of the team.  Either way she's going to make a boatload of money.  Speculation is the Clippers are worth close to $575 million.
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Reply #23 on: April 30, 2014, 10:00:42 PM
 Each of the other NBA Team Owners will, if not already this week, by the time of the Vote, be reinstalling their phones with known clean lines and having their homes and offices professionally swept for bugs.

  Each will have to think, this could be me... This team owner was set to pickup another award, in a ceremony with Al Sharpton, from the NAACP. Al Sharpton said today he has known the man was racist for years, and he was OK with giving him awards... until the illegal tape surfaced... then, no longer of any value, Sharpton is OK to call him the racist pig he always knew and hated.

  Choose your friends is the message. Spike Lee can expect to hear his past comments replayed frequently as well, being the Radio guy for the NBA I expect. Many ripples to come, and the lawyers are only into this for a few days...

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Reply #24 on: May 01, 2014, 12:26:27 AM
This is without a doubt going to court.
The recording was not condoned by Sterling nor approved by him. Neither was he informed of it, nor did he give his consent to be recorded. This would be tantamount to wire tapping without a warrant. Then it was released? (leaked) to the public?...
I think that the ban should stay as is, but the recorders of the telephone conversation are going to pay dearly in court as well the NBA for using an Illegal source (the telephone conversation). No matter what happens, this is not going to turn out well for anyone.
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Reply #25 on: May 01, 2014, 03:18:34 PM
Quote from: staci on April 30, 2014, 08:47:24 PM
If California is a community property state, wouldn't his interest in the Clippers along with everything else but the mistress be given to his wife Shelly in a divorce? Could she then become the owner?

Paper said today that his wife was trying to get back all the gifts, like a house, expensive cars, etc that Sterling had given his mistress, plus money he had given her. And that what he said was taped with their knowledge in some sort of counseling and the lawyer representing the mistress maintains she did not release the tape but someone did for money.

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Reply #26 on: May 05, 2014, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: watcher1 on May 01, 2014, 03:18:34 PM
Quote from: staci on April 30, 2014, 08:47:24 PM
If California is a community property state, wouldn't his interest in the Clippers along with everything else but the mistress be given to his wife Shelly in a divorce? Could she then become the owner?

Paper said today that his wife was trying to get back all the gifts, like a house, expensive cars, etc that Sterling had given his mistress, plus money he had given her. And that what he said was taped with their knowledge in some sort of counseling and the lawyer representing the mistress maintains she did not release the tape but someone did for money.

If it was a taping of a counseling session with a licensed physician, then a slew of hippa rules were broken. This whole thing is a little interesting once you poke into it and find out 2 of the three cases against Sterling previously were settled with no admission of guilt and the 3rd was dismissed.

What I am wondering, is why no one is talking about the NAACP's plan to give him a lifetime achievement award. That leads me to believe in their eyes at least, his past transgressions were either forgiven or were never that big of a deal. Surely they wouldn't give him an award simply for donating money....


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Reply #27 on: May 05, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
The person in charge of the Los Angeles NAACP resigned a few days ago.  Probably was somewhat embarrassed I would imagine.  But then again, the only color that matters is green. To some, that is.

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Reply #28 on: May 05, 2014, 08:16:04 PM
And meanwhile, as the Clippers advance in the playoff, the teams value increases. A screwed up mess it is. Aren't there stock holders involved? Junior Partners? Can the NBA legally decree ownership? I have no idea.

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Reply #29 on: May 05, 2014, 10:44:14 PM
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And meanwhile, as the Clippers advance in the playoff, the teams value increases. A screwed up mess it is. Aren't there stock holders involved? Junior Partners? Can the NBA legally decree ownership? I have no idea.

The NBA is in the process of appointing a CEO in the wake of Sterling's ban.  The owners will need to vote Sterling out.  There's not much they can do from him or other people owning part of the Clippers making money off the sale.  A franchise in Los Angeles with two superstars on it might sell for a hell of a lot more than $575 million.


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Reply #30 on: May 05, 2014, 11:02:16 PM
I'm still confused. The NBA will sell the team to whomever they think is acceptable. What if you were a minority owner and wanted to buy out Sterling? Would you have to sell your portion even if you didn't want to sell? Sorry guys, maybe they don't have minority owners, I remember the Texas Rangers did.

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Reply #31 on: May 05, 2014, 11:04:57 PM
Any group who wants to buy the team needs to be approved by the other NBA owners.  I believe it needs to be a 3/4ths vote.

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Reply #32 on: May 06, 2014, 01:41:15 AM
My bet it will be either Oprah with a few others or Magic Johnson, et al. Both are highly successful and have lots of money and very good name recognition.

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Reply #33 on: May 06, 2014, 01:45:08 AM
They can't steal the team from under Sterling (no matter how much they want to).
They have to pay him fair value for his team (even a court would agree to that).
The biggest problem might be value of the team (Sterling may have one price in mind and the NBA another..this is where it will get sticky and end up in court).The NBA can't just take it away from him.
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Reply #34 on: May 07, 2014, 02:16:27 AM
NBA's Sterling strategy emerges

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While the league's constitution, publicly revealed for the first time by the league last Tuesday, made it clear that grounds exist to remove an owner if that owner "fail(s) or refuse(s) to fulfill its contractual obligations to the Association," it remained unclear what contracts Sterling might have violated when he made his racist statements in a private conversation with his mistress V. Stiviano that was later published by TMZ.

But sources with knowledge of the league's strategy say there are, in fact, actual contracts that it will maintain Sterling violated should he choose to fight the league's desire to force him to sell the team if the league can get the required 75 percent of owners to agree to make the move.

One of those documents, which Sterling signed when he first bought the Clippers in 1981, and signed various amended versions since, states that an owner will not take any position or action that will materially and adversely affect a team or the league. Owners also sign morals clauses, which state that they will be upheld to the highest standard of ethical and moral behavior.

When morals clauses are enacted and result in termination of agreements, including endorsement deals, the courts are often charged with interpreting who was right, but sources with knowledge of the NBA's legal strategy believe that they have enough to force Sterling to sell.

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Reply #35 on: May 07, 2014, 08:25:04 PM
Has Sterling done anything illegal?    None of the Afro-American players or employees has accused him of discrimination against them or making racist comments to them.  Former Clippers general manager Elgin Baylor sued Sterling for wrongful termination and discrimination based on age and race -and lost in a jury trial.  Even Kareem Abdul Jabbar, who welcomed Sterling's removal, questions how the evidence was obtained.  Yes, it is hard to feel sympathy for Sterling, the creep, but is he getting a raw deal from the NBA?  Though I am sure the hundreds of millions of dollars he will walk away with would soothe the hurt some.


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Reply #36 on: May 07, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
If you buy a McDonald's franchise, you agree to their rules.  It's very similar here, yet on a larger scale.

Freedom of speech or illegally obtained evidence is irrelevant.

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Reply #37 on: May 08, 2014, 12:38:47 AM
Quote from: Athos_131 on May 07, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
If you buy a McDonald's franchise, you agree to their rules. It's very similar here, yet on a larger scale.

Freedom of speech or illegally obtained evidence is irrelevant.

Wrong....TMZ was an outside source. They did not have legal permission to post/broadcast what they did (A Private Conversation). And a court/trial could be very costly for TMZ.
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Reply #38 on: May 12, 2014, 03:33:54 PM
And the plot thickens. I believe Mark Cuban, Dallas Mavs owner, predicted  "a slippery slope". The Lawyers are salivating.

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Reply #39 on: May 12, 2014, 04:47:38 PM
Still I go back to a guy that has been involved with multiple discrimination lawsuits is telling his arm candy do not hang out with the people for whom these lawsuits involved. He didnt say dont take black people to games because they stink up my arena, far from anything of the sort. This is some what similar to anyone on the Penn State coaching staff telling their spouse, hey dont hang out with foster kids and bring them to football games...it could be taken as simply a request to avoid negative press.

Second, it is no surprise to anyone that Magic Johnson wants to buy an nba team. The relationship between him and the 'silly rabbit' is simply to good to be true for the conspiracy theorists.


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