Sequester 2013

[snowm]

Your experience in business is remarkable, not to have run into the poor excuses for management that I have.

And the comparison of social situations between the 1700's and today, while not exactly congruent is still valid. Your ideas of protection fail to take into account the constant efforts to circumvent or remove those protections.

I do not claim that some unscrupulous people or institutions shit in the nest and make things more difficult for others, that is a condition of humanity. The problem is that leverage by unscrupulous employers to do nasty things to their employees is much more prevalent than you think. The Pilgrim Chicken processing scandal of a few years ago is an example.

Who's to say I haven't? I am just not myopic enough to assume the entire business world is able to function with the inept middle managers I have had to deal with in my personal experiences.

So can I take an example of something occurring a few years ago and state that is the nature of the industry nationwide? Come on now, you can't really think I'm going to fall for that....

Of course there are bad managers, bad employees, bad employers. the difference between us is apparently you think everyone is bad and has a black heart and I lean more towards a positive outlook.

[Katiebee]

20% of the people in an organization, typically do 80% of the work.

This also applies when you look at roles separated into labor and management. When you only have 20% functioning competently in a all population you have a lot of problems.

The way organizations deal with this is through procedural rules. Though, it does seem that a lot of people have reading comprehension problems, so a lot o those rules are misapplied somewhere. Or they get ignored. And you know it happens more often than not, unless there are serious checks and balances in place.

[Partner]

That's one reason I haven't generally been in favor of bailouts.  If a company is mismanaged to the point of failure, then propping them up with external cash is just going to continue the lifespan of said mismanagement.  (If you replace the management, it's not a bailout; it's a takeover.)

Allowing failure is one of the best mechanisms to cull out bad management, but it's been largely curtailed over the last couple of administrations, especially for larger companies that can afford the kickbacks.

[Katiebee]

Makes you wonder what the board of directors is doing, doesn't it?

[Partner]

Playing golf.

[Katiebee]

Certainly not governance.

[snowm]

20% of the people in an organization, typically do 80% of the work.

This also applies when you look at roles separated into labor and management. When you only have 20% functioning competently in a all population you have a lot of problems.

The way organizations deal with this is through procedural rules. Though, it does seem that a lot of people have reading comprehension problems, so a lot o those rules are misapplied somewhere. Or they get ignored. And you know it happens more often than not, unless there are serious checks and balances in place.

preaching to the choir. In a performance review I was told "it is unfair for you to expect others to have your same work ethic." Day after that I didn't work an hour over 40 a week and once I was done with daily work, I played, waiting until something came along. I had an alpha cube: window and wall behind me, row granting me warning of any intruders...watched a bootleg copy of star wars III before it was out. Great fun.