Confessions

[psiberzerker]

 I don't know many that do like being tied up.  At least of my friends that have spoken about it.  Perhaps they're not being truthful?  Even friends of these friends, none have admitted to enjoying it.

I have been three or four times.  Only one time was it with a person that I didn't know if I could completely trust, where things could have gone bad.  It just happened, but at the end of the day, it was a very exciting experience.

Sorry, didn't mean to stray from the discussion you two were speaking of.

Well, it's still a couple of confessions, so it's still on topic.

A poll of friends who have talked about it isn't much of a sample size, there's just too many factors that may skew it, and Jed is the kinda guy that knows what to look for in a woman.  Who likes being tied up, or can be talked into trying it, AND careful enough to make it an enjoyable experience, so she's willing to try it again...

Just "He tied me up," is a bit of an over-simplification.  "And then what...?"  There's very few women that enjoy Just being tied up, but an experienced couple knows how to work that into the scene, as Part of the scene.  If he just tied her up, then I'm not surprised she didn't enjoy it.

Is that confusing at all?

[Jed_]

In my relationships, it’s a rare girl that doesn’t like being tied up once in a while, or for some, all the time.  

Really?  I don't know many that do like being tied up.  At least of my friends that have spoken about it.  Perhaps they're not being truthful?  Even friends of these friends, none have admitted to enjoying it.

I have been three or four times.  Only one time was it with a person that I didn't know if I could completely trust, where things could have gone bad.  It just happened, but at the end of the day, it was a very exciting experience.

Sorry, didn't mean to stray from the discussion you two were speaking of.

The first time I tied a girl up, she was a rape survivor and requested it.  I found I liked it, and it led me down that path.  As far as doing that to other girls, it doesn’t always come up right away, and in my past the girl wasn’t necessarily around long enough for it to come up.  But I don’t recall ever getting a flat out ‘no’ on the subject, which I guess leads me to think girls enjoying it is common.

My deceased wife was open to experimentation, and I wish we took that further than we did.  I tied her up a lot in the early years, but unfortunately that faded away.  Being on sites like this has been educational, so wish I knew then what I know now.

Like some other girls in my past, my Peruvian is a bit conservative.  It’s been nearly 7 months since she first shared my bed and no rope or cuffs yet.  I pin her wrists frequently, but that’s out of self preservation.  Not only do her claws hurt, but once she’s really wound up she gets some hysterical strength and is really hard to keep a grip on.

I don’t know if I sought girls that were into that as Psi suggests.  I was told by a few friends, including women, that I seemed to seek out or at least end up with ‘crazy’.  Maybe?

As far as your friends not being truthful Jules, maybe some of them.  I know of a few girls that didn’t want their friends to think they were in an abusive relationship, so they lied about such things.  These girls didn’t think their significant other was abusive, they enjoyed it being rough and were worried their friends wouldn’t get that.  Bruised tities and bum can be hard to explain as something you like.  As far as bruised tities in my current relationship, that would be mine; damn that girl can get a vise-like grip and twist really hard, reason I pin her wrists when I can and also try and take her from behind.

[Elizabeth]

So....??
Does all this "I hate being tied up" include fuzzy handcuffs..??
Just being nosey.........
 

Love,
Liz

[_priapism]

I don’t seek it, and I don’t “try to convince.”  I think maybe I am just attracted to that type of person.  I have a broken wing, and recognize those traits in others.  We feel dirty, and seek absolution.  The humiliation, the confession, the atonement, the release.  It’s a psycho sexual liturgy, and I am the high priest.

[_priapism]

If anybody wants to know, yes.  I played with myself three times today.

[Remington555]

TMI friend. TMI. 

(Only 3 times?)

Remmy

[msslave]

Oh Damn, three times in one day.  I kinda remember when I could do that.

I'm happy if I can get off three times in a week.

[_priapism]

I think that was the Bourbon bragging. I got pretty shit faced last night.  Then up at 5:30 am for academic scholastic competition with my nerd child.

[shaver]

I must admit that I play with my self I do like to stroke my cock when I can

[ChirpingGirl]

Though my wifey is very much not into men, she does have a daughter of her own. Won't go into details how that happened. 

But I did get her to give a blowjob... ONCE. It was Christmas eve 2017. I guided her, and the person who got his dick sucked said it was a dream CUM true because I've blown him countless times, but he always wanted the two of us to do it together to him.  And he said wifey is the hottest Asian girl he'd ever seen, so that boosted her ego enough to do it.

Long story short he fucked her mouth, and we both got a mess on our faces. 

She says she'll never do it again. But she watched me do that and way more this past Christmas eve to the same cock. 

[psiberzerker]

Sorry for speaking.

It's quoted on the next page.  Not that anyone wants to read it anyway.

[psiberzerker]

I feel bad about individually (Mylar) wrapped ice cream novelties on economic, and ecological grounds, but I'm eating a store (HEBrand) bought sundae cone, because peanuts, fudge, and vanilla ice cream are a guilty pleasure of mine.

Back on Topic.

[MissBarbara]

I have a friend, in a lesbian marriage with a mother of a cute little girl named Willow...

At the risk of nitpicking, there's no such thing.

It's just "marriage."

[psiberzerker]

At the risk of nitpicking, there's no such thing.

It's just "marriage."

Okay?  So, there's no such thing as an Interracial Marriage, either?  No Single Paarents, just Parents.  No only children, just a child?  Of course it's "Just Marriage," but when there's another pertinent thing, then one can be more specific.  It's not just a car, it's a red sports car.

It's just a car, but it's also red, and also goes fast.  They're not just a couple, they're also lesbians, and one of them is a biological mother.

Are we done?

[MissBarbara]

At the risk of nitpicking, there's no such thing.

It's just "marriage."

Okay?  So, there's no such thing as an Interracial Marriage, either?  No Single Paarents, just Parents.  No only children, just a child?  Of course it's "Just Marriage," but when there's another pertinent thing, then one can be more specific.  It's not just a car, it's a red sports car.

It's just a car, but it's also red, and also goes fast.  They're not just a couple, they're also lesbians, and one of them is a biological mother.

Are we done?

It's a very important polemical distinction.

It's called "marriage equality" for a reason. A man and a woman are married. Two men are married. Two women are married. They're all, simply, married.

Adding the adjective can deny that equality, or relegate the marriage of two women or two men to a lower status, especially in the eyes of those who oppose marriage equality, or who oppose non-heterosexual relationships on principle.

I loved the way Mayor Bloomberg solved this conundrum where he performed the first marriage in NYC after the state established marriage equality. At the end of the ceremony, he proclaimed, simply, "I now pronounce you...married."

Of course there's such a thing as a lesbian couple, or an interracial couple, or a single parent. And yes, there are times and contexts when these additional descriptors are needed. But insisting on using these descriptions when they're not needed or the context doesn't call for them can lead to emphasizing differences, rather than celebrating them -- or, better yet, simply ignoring them. 

[psiberzerker]

Adding the adjective can deny that equality, or relegate the marriage of two women or two men to a lower status, especially in the eyes of those who oppose marriage equality, or who oppose non-heterosexual relationships on principle.

Okay, first of all, Lesbians are a Noun.  Not an Adjective, they're People.  They are married, AND they are Lesbians.  One is also a Mother, and an Artist.  So, I wasn't saying they were a "Lesbian Marriage."  I was saying they're a Lesbian Couple.  (Who're married.)  The people in the couple were the pertinent thing, in the context of the story i was sharing, and their being legally married was a footnote.  I wasn't focusing on a single fascet of her character, I was trying to give several pertinent facts about who she is as a Person.  Not just a Lesbian, but also a wife, Mother, and Artist.

Lesbians exist.  The same people who oppose same sex marriage, and transgender existence would rather we just don't talk about them, so everyone can stay in the closet, until a conservative Senator gets caught with a male prostitute.  Now, here you are, smacking me down for talking about lesbian marriage, because it's "Just marriage."

I don't need my language policed, and you know it really pisses me off.  Stop.  I know.  Thank you.

[Athos_131]

At the risk of nitpicking, there's no such thing.

It's just "marriage."

Yeah, that's up there with "having friends who are black."

#Resist

[_priapism]

I don't need my language policed, and you know it really pisses me off.  

[psiberzerker]

Fuck it, fine.  I'm gonna go play video games.  You can have this place to yourselves.  You win, I don't have the energy to explain my every word to my hate club today.  Line up to linebang somebody else.

[MissBarbara]

Adding the adjective can deny that equality, or relegate the marriage of two women or two men to a lower status, especially in the eyes of those who oppose marriage equality, or who oppose non-heterosexual relationships on principle.

Okay, first of all, Lesbians are a Noun.  Not an Adjective, they're People.  

The word "lesbian" is both a noun and an adjective. "I am a lesbian." That's the word used as a noun. "She entered into a lesbian marriage." That's the word used as an adjective. "She's a member of a lesbian couple." Again, an adjective (and an extremely awkward yet grammatically correct sentence).

Lesbians exist.  The same people who oppose same sex marriage, and transgender existence would rather we just don't talk about them, so everyone can stay in the closet, until a conservative Senator gets caught with a male prostitute.  Now, here you are, smacking me down for talking about lesbian marriage, because it's "Just marriage."

"Smacking you down"? Really? Believe me, if you ever receive a verbal smack-down from me, it will be crystal clear (and in a thread where such things are appropriate).

And thanks for informing that "lesbians exist." I'd long wondered...

I don't need my language policed, and you know it really pisses me off.  Stop.  I know.  

I'm not policing your language. I'm making a perfectly valid and very important point.

I stand by both what I wrote, and the context in which I wrote it.

And I will stop when I choose to, not when I'm ordered to (unless, of course, it comes from one of the Mods).